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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2011-02-26 16:10:58  
There was that one picture of Failure doing 39k(Actually 19.5k since it was a double damage mob) w/ SAM/THF on Fudo.

I would assume it does a decent ammount of damage, although still pointless since it's best to kill asap to save brew time for the next mob.
 
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-02-26 16:30:52  
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
There was that one picture of Failure doing 39k(Actually 19.5k since it was a double damage mob) w/ SAM/THF on Fudo.

I would assume it does a decent ammount of damage, although still pointless since it's best to kill asap to save brew time for the next mob.
Agi and dex aren't calculated into the base damage as /THF, it just is an assured critical hit, I think he's asking about what would happen if one were to hit with a 2k+ base damage hit that criticals using SATA and a brew.
 
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By Phoenix.Jimie 2011-02-26 17:13:05  
You'll never be able to SATA Hide with a brew active on an NM and obtain the SATA effect as afaik all Abyssea NMs are True Sight/Sound, and why waste a brew on a normal mob unless you've got cruor to burn or are just really curious about dmg number lol.
 
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By Phoenix.Jimie 2011-02-26 17:29:44  
Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
Phoenix.Jimie said:
You'll never be able to SATA Hide with a brew active on an NM and obtain the SATA effect as afaik all Abyssea NMs are True Sight/Sound, and why waste a brew on a normal mob unless you've got cruor to burn or are just really curious about dmg number lol.
Someone else spawned it and you were waiting to SATA them or you've not joined the NM's hate list. It's doable

Good point, I guess if you're not on the hate list it should work.
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By Ragnarok.Matix 2011-02-26 17:56:52  
or you killed the nm with 2.5min of brew left!
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2011-02-26 18:03:31  
It'd only be 1.35*3/2 or 2.025x more damage, maximum. It'd be neat but it's not gonna be faster than just WSing twice.

Less if 2-hander, 1.35*3/2.2 or ~1.84x
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By Quetzalcoatl.Zeldageek 2011-02-26 18:05:37  
And how did you get these numbers?
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2011-02-26 20:34:04  
Quetzalcoatl.Zeldageek said:
And how did you get these numbers?
2.0 capped Ratio for one-handers, 2.2 for two-handers. Crits are capped at 3.0 pDIF, so 3/2 or 3/2.2 is effectively the multiplier increase, and who wouldn't have RR (1.35x) on for this?

But I missed the contextual hint that this is THF main and getting base damage increase from DEX and AGI, which would be much more spectacular.


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or you killed the nm with 2.5min of brew left!
Sit on an NPC til someone brings you something else to kill then!
 
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-26 23:12:34  
There are other ways to boost it.

Max potential dmg not including dmg type weaknesses would be just under 30k dmg. That's with either af+1 gloves or af3+1/2 assuming they add the same amount. Max pdif which probably wont happen on anything higher lvl than you. Af3+2 set bonus. And capped +crit dmg
 
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-26 23:21:05  
Nope. I meant you would get 30k WITH armlets AND capped crit. And only if you happen to roll capped pdif AND triple attack AND have set bonus proc. Realistically speaking you can hit as low as 7600 on a lvl 95 mob if you don't get af3+2 set bonus
 
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-26 23:26:43  
You could do more potentially with Aeolian edge and much more consistent. Though nms would tend to be semi resistant.... oh I forgot the ODD from empyrean or the weapon that uses stones... though not sure it can proc with all that other stuff. And definitely isn't 100%
 
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-26 23:33:38  
Assassin doesn't add anything to SATA
 
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-02-26 23:49:37  
I did SATA + 300%Rudra's with brew on a glavoid shortly after finishing my twashtar. It was fairly underwhelming, only did a bit more than the average brewed aeolian.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-26 23:55:15  
Phoenix.Kirana said:
I did SATA + 300%Rudra's on a glavoid shortly after finishing my twashtar. It was fairly underwhelming, only did a bit more than the average brewed aeolian.
That's mostly cause the agi/dex bonus are applied after pdif. So SATAWS is pretty much the same thing as SATA then WS aside from the forced critting
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By Vudoku 2011-08-11 18:30:43  
As long as mob is weak to magic ws's SATA brew > all X10000000000000000000000000000000000000000. Only catch is you need to use blade to, stack crit dmg gear (ie AF+2hands lokis ammo and mantle. I have personally killed rani @84% with one sata blade to ws. My last ls did 14 Azdaja with one brew. Josiahfk, if you want more info on this you can PM me, I dont play anymore, good luck.
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By Carbuncle.Axle 2011-08-11 18:35:20  
Vudoku said:
As long as mob is weak to magic ws's SATA brew > all X10000000000000000000000000000000000000000. Only catch is you need to use blade to, stack crit dmg gear (ie AF+2hands lokis ammo and mantle. I have personally killed rani @84% with one sata blade to ws. My last ls did 14 Azdaja with one brew. Josiahfk, if you want more info on this you can PM me, I dont play anymore, good luck.

Blade: To? poidh

Built Blade: To on Rani did 500 dmg w/o sata for me. Considering SATA on nin doesn't have same mods as thf, i call bogus.
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By Vudoku 2011-08-11 18:38:29  
Thats fine axle, it does not matter that you believe, my post was meant for Josiah, and FYI its THF main...
 
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By Carbuncle.Axle 2011-08-11 18:43:34  
Blade: To, with thf main? Guess crappy lvl 1 katana.

And i've done Blade: To on rani with beyond,smiting,blinding. 500 dmg isn't alot to build on.

I'm sure SATA has some good mods, but sounds like your making up stuff you don't remember properly.
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