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 Asura.Haxetc
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By Asura.Haxetc 2011-05-23 02:01:14  
Sooo. Now that we have something other than aby to do. I was wondering with new gear etc, what tp sets are ppl using for outside aby :D

My current outside set x.x;
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By Ashaaman 2011-05-23 02:36:41  
I'm still fairly new to NIN, but wouldn't AF1 body still reign supreme for TPing?
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2011-05-23 02:50:07  
your set is good, but try to get Iga Hakama +2 obv. if you need more accuracy you can even try swapping tathlum for fire bomblet and +2 kyahan for usukane sune-ate, you will be at 26% haste with an xtra ~20 acc.
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By Asura.Haxetc 2011-05-23 02:50:49  
I dont have atma to cap crit hit rate/acc so af3+2 >
Also byakko's augged: VIT+4 STP+3 crit. hit dmg +4%
Keep getting VIT aug :/ aimming for AGI or Dex x.x
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2011-05-23 02:51:46  
Ashaaman said:
I'm still fairly new to NIN, but wouldn't AF1 body still reign supreme for TPing?

it would, unless acc became an issue, not sure if thats what this person is aiming for, i guess i just assume the best in people? D:
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-05-23 02:51:57  
byakko's helps with ddex too though.
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2011-05-23 02:53:55  
Asura.Haxetc said:
I dont have atma to cap crit hit rate/acc so af3+2 >
Also byakko's augged: VIT+4 STP+3 crit. hit dmg +4%
Keep getting VIT aug :/ aimming for AGI or Dex x.x

wow! use those as ws legs only tho, crit rate dmg+ isnt going to beat the 2haste you are losing from af3+2 legs.

and even more so for outside abyssea when your critrate drops really low.

edit-

i just realized how stupid the first part of your statement was. and no not because your mentioning atma use for a tp set to be used outside abyssea, but because your prob not going to hit hard cap crit rate 100(95%), even WITH atmas. so you should swap af3+2 body for af1 body and use af3+2 for ws, the only time you should tp in af3+2 body is if your hitting delay- cap, with the use of marches/haste/samba (at least it does have some use :| )
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By Asura.Haxetc 2011-05-23 02:57:26  
Fairy.Ghaleon said:
your set is good, but try to get Iga Hakama +2 obv. if you need more accuracy you can even try swapping tathlum for fire bomblet and +2 kyahan for usukane sune-ate, you will be at 26% haste with an xtra ~20 acc.
Byakko's have same acc as hakama +2 :/ + u get crit rate due to DEX
However I did completely forget about fire bomvlet x.x ty for the advice ^^
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2011-05-23 02:59:16  
Asura.Haxetc said:
Fairy.Ghaleon said:
your set is good, but try to get Iga Hakama +2 obv. if you need more accuracy you can even try swapping tathlum for fire bomblet and +2 kyahan for usukane sune-ate, you will be at 26% haste with an xtra ~20 acc.
Byakko's have same acc as hakama +2 :/ + u get crit rate due to DEX
However I did completely forget about fire bomvlet x.x ty for the advice ^^

byakkos does not have the same accuracy as +2, your forgetting to add the accuracy/atk gains from katana skill+

edit - not to mention the entire point of swapping them is for the haste not the acc...


edit2- he can use byakkos with that set, i only mentioned swapping for af3+2 legs with the set i mentioned in my first post. just so people dont get confused etc (because i somehow thought this thread was for outside abyssea) guess i was wrong.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-05-23 03:01:53  
Asura.Haxetc said:
Byakko's have same acc as hakama +2 :/

9.5 != 20
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By Asura.Haxetc 2011-05-23 03:06:14  
Forgot about katana skill on hakama +2 >.>;
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-05-23 03:06:41  
and usukane sune-ate being superior to iga kyahan +2
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By Asura.Haxetc 2011-05-23 03:11:00  
Fairy.Ghaleon said:
Asura.Haxetc said:
Fairy.Ghaleon said:
your set is good, but try to get Iga Hakama +2 obv. if you need more accuracy you can even try swapping tathlum for fire bomblet and +2 kyahan for usukane sune-ate, you will be at 26% haste with an xtra ~20 acc.
Byakko's have same acc as hakama +2 :/ + u get crit rate due to DEX
However I did completely forget about fire bomvlet x.x ty for the advice ^^

byakkos does not have the same accuracy as +2, your forgetting to add the accuracy/atk gains from katana skill+

edit - not to mention the entire point of swapping them is for the haste not the acc...


edit2- he can use byakkos with that set, i only mentioned swapping
for af3+2 legs with the set i mentioned in my first post. just so
people dont get confused etc (because i somehow thought this thread
was for outside abyssea) guess i was wrong.
It is for outside :/
But with that set im aimming for haste cap/crit rate/acc
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By Sylph.Ghaleon 2011-05-23 03:29:01  
Asura.Haxetc said:
Fairy.Ghaleon said:
Asura.Haxetc said:
Fairy.Ghaleon said:
your set is good, but try to get Iga Hakama +2 obv. if you need more accuracy you can even try swapping tathlum for fire bomblet and +2 kyahan for usukane sune-ate, you will be at 26% haste with an xtra ~20 acc.
Byakko's have same acc as hakama +2 :/ + u get crit rate due to DEX
However I did completely forget about fire bomvlet x.x ty for the advice ^^

byakkos does not have the same accuracy as +2, your forgetting to add the accuracy/atk gains from katana skill+

edit - not to mention the entire point of swapping them is for the haste not the acc...


edit2- he can use byakkos with that set, i only mentioned swapping
for af3+2 legs with the set i mentioned in my first post. just so
people dont get confused etc (because i somehow thought this thread
was for outside abyssea) guess i was wrong.
It is for outside :/
But with that set im aimming for haste cap/crit rate/acc



thats maximum haste for ninja, high DA rate -> (~13 from gear) high acc -> and crit rate is going to suck outside abyssea, no amount of gear is going to fix that, deal with it.
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By Asura.Haxetc 2011-05-23 03:35:24  
Crit rate doesn't suck outside :/
I crit around 50% on t1 VW
t2+ have to stack more acc :/
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-05-23 03:37:47  
Asura.Haxetc said:
Crit rate doesn't suck outside :/
I crit around 50% on t1 VW
t2+ have to stack more acc :/

50%?
Is that katana's add effect strong enough to add like 20% crit rate?
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By Asura.Haxetc 2011-05-23 03:39:08  
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Asura.Haxetc said:
Crit rate doesn't suck outside :/
I crit around 50% on t1 VW
t2+ have to stack more acc :/

50%?
Is that katana's add effect strong enough to add like 20% crit rate?
15%
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2011-05-23 03:40:54  
Asura.Haxetc said:
Crit rate doesn't suck outside :/
I crit around 50% on t1 VW
t2+ have to stack more acc :/

would love to see a parse.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-05-23 03:45:20  
Fairy.Ghaleon said:
Asura.Haxetc said:
Crit rate doesn't suck outside :/
I crit around 50% on t1 VW
t2+ have to stack more acc :/

would love to see a parse.

With capped ddex and add effect from that katana you can reach like 45%, but I kinda doubt ddex would be capped on vw <_>
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2011-05-23 04:17:18  
Asura.Haxetc said:
I dont have atma to cap crit hit rate/acc so af3+2 >

AF3 will only beat af1 if you're capping delay reduction, or if you need all of that accuracy (food should be factored first).
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By Carbuncle.Niusha 2011-05-23 04:28:04  
it's crazy how much evasion some of the voidwatch and kcnm mobs have, gotta carry around a bunch of accuracy gear again ><

really it just depends what you're fighting, i've had to edit my gear sets on the fly lately
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By Odin.Upbeat 2011-05-23 08:16:37  
This is what I use for outside abyssea.

TP:

Blade: Hi:
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By Asura.Dtroyy 2011-05-23 11:47:01  
Sylph.Ghaleon said:
Asura.Haxetc said:
Fairy.Ghaleon said:
Asura.Haxetc said:
Fairy.Ghaleon said:
your set is good, but try to get Iga Hakama +2 obv. if you need more accuracy you can even try swapping tathlum for fire bomblet and +2 kyahan for usukane sune-ate, you will be at 26% haste with an xtra ~20 acc.
Byakko's have same acc as hakama +2 :/ + u get crit rate due to DEX However I did completely forget about fire bomvlet x.x ty for the advice ^^
byakkos does not have the same accuracy as +2, your forgetting to add the accuracy/atk gains from katana skill+ edit - not to mention the entire point of swapping them is for the haste not the acc... edit2- he can use byakkos with that set, i only mentioned swapping for af3+2 legs with the set i mentioned in my first post. just so people dont get confused etc (because i somehow thought this thread was for outside abyssea) guess i was wrong.
It is for outside :/ But with that set im aimming for haste cap/crit rate/acc
thats maximum haste for ninja, high DA rate -> (~13 from gear) high acc -> and crit rate is going to suck outside abyssea, no amount of gear is going to fix that, deal with it.

Hes missing out on 5% DW lol, still gets 13% DA, still has capped gear haste and has much better acc from all the dex + af3 body. + crit rate~
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By Asura.Haxetc 2011-05-23 13:49:09  
Odin.Upbeat said:
This is what I use for outside abyssea.

TP:

Blade: Hi:
Oshi!
AF3 back . .
That ***looks hot for outside . .
Thanks for posting Upbeat :D
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By Asura.Haxetc 2011-05-23 13:51:52  
Btw Ghaleon, for someone talking about shitty crit rates outside u use kamome . .
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By Kujata.Savain 2011-05-24 16:45:55  
To Upbeat:

Does that Hi set do well? I tried a dex set with Hi and it was awful. I swapped to full agi and both my non-crit damage and my crit damage skyrocketed. My set was doing 1-1.8 to VT beetles in GC without any food.
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By Cerberus.Wojo 2011-05-24 16:54:04  
If offhanding the Ori katana worth while? I would assume Kamamome or GTFO, but I'm happy to learn something new.
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2011-05-24 17:00:32  
Asura.Haxetc said:
Btw Ghaleon, for someone talking about shitty crit rates outside u use kamome . .
good point, forgot to swap that.

to be honest, i don't use nin outside abyssea cause its ***, thats why i have masamune on sam. i was only trying to help you, but you respond with lies/retadation about your critrate obsessiveness, so i'm not going to bother to help you at all, i posted what i thought would help, so im out.
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-05-24 17:01:39  
What's up with all the crit rate hate outside abyssea? The lower your natural crit rate, the greater benefit you are getting by adding more. Granted you don't have all of the crit damage boost from abyssea, but the way people are arguing against crit rate is counter-intuitive.
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2011-05-24 17:03:17  
Cerberus.Wojo said:
If offhanding the Ori katana worth while? I would assume Kamamome or GTFO, but I'm happy to learn something new.

Ori MIGHT lose to kamome outside for offhand depending on how much the crit+ is, (i've heard different ranging from 5~15% crit inrease)

the only downside i can see is its higher delay. it would need to be parsed but they do seem fairly close to each other.
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