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 Bahamut.Cuelebra
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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-12-02 22:39:55  
ok so i went hunting for argute m.board-1 hoping for grim casting 2 on the head apparently was a typo FUMES!



not impressed with the set at all.

legs-kaustra piece i suppose lolz
feet-i had fast cast on the af and augur's gaiters...
SE best adjust c3/c4 fast otherwise the feet are kinda of a waste
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By Fenrir.Niniann 2011-12-02 22:56:52  
I'm hoping the lack of "Reduces spellcasting time II" is a typo, or they thought we didn't need to know in the description otherwise... :s

Head is still a fast-cast piece, body is still a subs piece, hands are still an enfeebling piece piece, except now it's an INV+1 MND enfeeble piece too. Legs... Kaustra? Woo? Feet depends entirely on how much Fast Cast. I'd like them to be INV+1 though.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-12-02 23:00:17  
Fenrir.Niniann said: »
I'm hoping the lack of "Reduces spellcasting time II" is a typo, or they thought we didn't need to know in the description otherwise... :s

All of the "II" bonuses appear to be absent from the +2 gear. Here's to hoping they return for the +3 :C
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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-12-02 23:20:51  
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Fenrir.Niniann said: »
I'm hoping the lack of "Reduces spellcasting time II" is a typo, or they thought we didn't need to know in the description otherwise... :s

All of the "II" bonuses appear to be absent from the +2 gear. Here's to hoping they return for the +3 :C

some of the jobs got it lol. brd got courtly measure2!!! lol
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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-12-02 23:26:38  
Fenrir.Niniann said: »
I'm hoping the lack of "Reduces spellcasting time II" is a typo, or they thought we didn't need to know in the description otherwise... :s

Head is still a fast-cast piece, body is still a subs piece, hands are still an enfeebling piece piece, except now it's an INV+1 MND enfeeble piece too. Legs... Kaustra? Woo? Feet depends entirely on how much Fast Cast. I'd like them to be INV+1 though.

now if they are +10 fastcast like relic rdm body im all for the feet. but thats just hopeful wishing
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-12-03 01:44:08  
Bahamut.Cuelebra said: »
Fenrir.Niniann said: »
I'm hoping the lack of "Reduces spellcasting time II" is a typo, or they thought we didn't need to know in the description otherwise... :s

Head is still a fast-cast piece, body is still a subs piece, hands are still an enfeebling piece piece, except now it's an INV+1 MND enfeeble piece too. Legs... Kaustra? Woo? Feet depends entirely on how much Fast Cast. I'd like them to be INV+1 though.

now if they are +10 fastcast like relic rdm body im all for the feet. but thats just hopeful wishing
still inv+1 no more af1 feet
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By Bismarck.Zuidar 2011-12-03 01:56:16  
Did you guys test out the differences with the cast/Recast timers when equipping SCH AF2 head NQ vs +2 and the difference with Scholar's Loafers vs argute loafers?
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By Fenrir.Niniann 2011-12-03 01:59:37  
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
still inv+1 no more af1 feet

Depends on the Fast Cast value. If it's not at least 10%, I wouldn't bother. I enjoy my 5% recast. :c
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By Odin.Eikechi 2011-12-03 02:05:30  
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Fenrir.Niniann said: »
I'm hoping the lack of "Reduces spellcasting time II" is a typo, or they thought we didn't need to know in the description otherwise... :s

All of the "II" bonuses appear to be absent from the +2 gear. Here's to hoping they return for the +3 :C

I could swear the .dat mine files said that the pieces are 99. Which also makes sense... regi or +1 >> +2 (stage 1 upgrade SE mentioned) >> +2 (version 2, the lv99 one) (stage 2 upgrade SE mentioned). Doesn't that add up to any of y'all as well? so the 99 pieces could be after that 2nd upgrade (with meditate 2, and grimoire 2 on the head, so on and so forth)
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-12-03 04:15:10  
Fenrir.Niniann said: »
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
still inv+1 no more af1 feet

Depends on the Fast Cast value. If it's not at least 10%, I wouldn't bother. I enjoy my 5% recast. :c
if an af2 has less of something than a af1 has then i'd flip ***.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2011-12-03 04:29:44  
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
Fenrir.Niniann said: »
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
still inv+1 no more af1 feet

Depends on the Fast Cast value. If it's not at least 10%, I wouldn't bother. I enjoy my 5% recast. :c
if an af2 has less of something than a af1 has then i'd flip ***.

And that's what some ninjas are worried about in regards to the DW+ on AF2+2 chainmail lol
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By Sylph.Fulmination 2011-12-06 17:28:21  
Fenrir.Niniann said: »
I'm hoping the lack of "Reduces spellcasting time II" is a typo, or they thought we didn't need to know in the description otherwise... :s

Head is still a fast-cast piece, body is still a subs piece, hands are still an enfeebling piece piece, except now it's an INV+1 MND enfeeble piece too. Legs... Kaustra? Woo? Feet depends entirely on how much Fast Cast. I'd like them to be INV+1 though.
Wouldn't Smok legs dominate these legs for Kaustra? :3
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By Odin.Eikechi 2011-12-06 17:32:35  
smok legs only have 2 more int, and 0 dark skill, so i'd wager that's a hell no
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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-12-06 17:42:53  
Fenrir.Niniann said: »
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
still inv+1 no more af1 feet

Depends on the Fast Cast value. If it's not at least 10%, I wouldn't bother. I enjoy my 5% recast. :c

dont u need to wear the af feet for entire cast to get 5% recast?
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By Bismarck.Stfutaru 2011-12-06 18:08:14  
What's with all the healing skills...

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By Siren.Thoraeon 2011-12-06 18:09:24  
Bahamut.Cuelebra said: »
Fenrir.Niniann said: »
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
still inv+1 no more af1 feet

Depends on the Fast Cast value. If it's not at least 10%, I wouldn't bother. I enjoy my 5% recast. :c

dont u need to wear the af feet for entire cast to get 5% recast?
just at the end for recast
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By Fenrir.Niniann 2011-12-06 18:20:13  
Bahamut.Cuelebra said: »
dont u need to wear the af feet for entire cast to get 5% recast?

Just the end. I don't use this for all spells, but having recast on stuff like haste/erase and whatnot is really nice.
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By Fenrir.Enternius 2011-12-06 18:24:01  
Bismarck.Stfutaru said: »
What's with all the healing skills...

-_-
They said they were gonna make Healing skill actually useful in the next update.
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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-12-06 18:42:08  
Fenrir.Niniann said: »
Bahamut.Cuelebra said: »
dont u need to wear the af feet for entire cast to get 5% recast?

Just the end. I don't use this for all spells, but having recast on stuff like haste/erase and whatnot is really nice.

yah i usually precast in af or augurs. but yah if they do update the c4/c3 formula. then the relic+2 hands and feet will be best feet for cures big woop lol
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2011-12-06 18:45:17  
Bahamut.Cuelebra said: »
Fenrir.Niniann said: »
Bahamut.Cuelebra said: »
dont u need to wear the af feet for entire cast to get 5% recast?

Just the end. I don't use this for all spells, but having recast on stuff like haste/erase and whatnot is really nice.

yah i usually precast in af or augurs. but yah if they do update the c4/c3 formula. then the relic+2 hands and feet will be best feet for cures big woop lol
augur's gloves I am sure will beat Relic+2 hands for cures.
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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-12-06 19:06:25  
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Bahamut.Cuelebra said: »
Fenrir.Niniann said: »
Bahamut.Cuelebra said: »
dont u need to wear the af feet for entire cast to get 5% recast?

Just the end. I don't use this for all spells, but having recast on stuff like haste/erase and whatnot is really nice.

yah i usually precast in af or augurs. but yah if they do update the c4/c3 formula. then the relic+2 hands and feet will be best feet for cures big woop lol
augur's gloves I am sure will beat Relic+2 hands for cures.

If u need cure potency in the hand slot yes. otherwise no. Surya +4 will have 25% cure potency and goliard trews.

quick throw together but would beat out Augurs.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2011-12-06 19:17:09  
In that case, Augur's + Healing Torque would give you more skill/mnd/potency than Argute + Fylgja
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-12-06 19:59:13  
needs more verse strap +1
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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-12-06 21:47:20  
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
needs more verse strap +1

they said they were just adjusting the healing not the enmity with cure4. so i dunno if ud want to give up -4 enmity for +3 MND on c4. but itll depend how they modify it i suppose.

Siren.Thoraeon said: »
In that case, Augur's + Healing Torque would give you more skill/mnd/potency than Argute + Fylgja
ur right healing torque + augurs would push out better numbers depending on the modified c4 formula. but then it ur also loosing -7 enmity from arg.bracers+2+fylgja.


would be the most potent cure set(dependent on SE's c4 modification) but if they arnt modifying the enmity associated with C4 then yah.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2011-12-06 21:52:59  
Bahamut.Cuelebra said: »
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
needs more verse strap +1

they said they were just adjusting the healing not the enmity with cure4. so i dunno if ud want to give up -4 enmity for +3 MND on c4.

Siren.Thoraeon said: »
In that case, Augur's + Healing Torque would give you more skill/mnd/potency than Argute + Fylgja
ur right healing torque + augurs would push out better numbers depending on the modified c4 formula. but then it ur also loosing -7 enmity from arg.bracers+2+fylgja.
Animus Mineo - My SCH never takes hate from its cures.

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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-12-06 21:54:18  
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Bahamut.Cuelebra said: »
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
needs more verse strap +1

they said they were just adjusting the healing not the enmity with cure4. so i dunno if ud want to give up -4 enmity for +3 MND on c4.

Siren.Thoraeon said: »
In that case, Augur's + Healing Torque would give you more skill/mnd/potency than Argute + Fylgja
ur right healing torque + augurs would push out better numbers depending on the modified c4 formula. but then it ur also loosing -7 enmity from arg.bracers+2+fylgja.
Animus Mineo - My SCH never takes hate from its cures.

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are u just curing? or are u also processing in VW? animus mineo alone even with atmacite isnt enough to cap ur -enmity thats -20 enmity tops
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2011-12-06 21:54:50  
Phrenic Torque with Augurs is something to consider if your set is really needing that extra boost.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2011-12-06 22:07:44  
Hands are still boss for enfeebling
Legs are still boss for dark magic may be a good space saver for nuking as they have more skill but let int than Cybele pants...
Body is still boss for Sublimation / Barspells / Enspells
Head is still boss for fastcast

feet need more info
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-12-06 22:39:50  
Bahamut.Cuelebra said: »
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
needs more verse strap +1

they said they were just adjusting the healing not the enmity with cure4. so i dunno if ud want to give up -4 enmity for +3 MND on c4. but itll depend how they modify it i suppose.

verse is 3 mnd and -3 enmity. you get more out of the 3 mnd than you would the -1 enmity.


just saying.
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By Bahamut.Cuelebra 2011-12-06 22:41:28  
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
Bahamut.Cuelebra said: »
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
needs more verse strap +1

they said they were just adjusting the healing not the enmity with cure4. so i dunno if ud want to give up -4 enmity for +3 MND on c4. but itll depend how they modify it i suppose.

verse is 3 mnd and -3 enmity. you get more out of the 3 mnd than you would the -1 enmity.


just saying.

yah i just looked it up i was confusing it with raptor strap. lol
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