Endeavoring To Awaken --A Guide To Rune Fencer

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By Bahadir 2017-03-22 11:51:47  
Ah good to know that elemental resistance helps. Thx for the set as well. Have a Status resist set but it doesnt cap PDT/MDT yet I think...but I have most of the stuff you use here so shouldnt be too much work for me.
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2017-03-26 00:59:03  
So what did you guys do with your +3 upgrade order? I got the body first as I think we can all agree it's the best piece there, but where 2nd? Each piece seems to have some usage, but none for really major situations. I was thinking hands since it has more Meva and it beats Kurys in every stat...except enmity. Think it's still leading for me, though.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2017-03-26 01:14:11  
Legs, more status resist for PDT/status set, also gives more PDT so you can sub out another slot too.

hands to offer the gambit increase, though, which is nice.
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By Siren.Kyte 2017-03-26 01:18:22  
I did the legs first- and after some internal debate, will probably do the boots next.
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By geigei 2017-03-26 02:35:47  
Legs and body, the resists are real.
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By Siren.Kyte 2017-03-26 03:04:09  
If you think the body will result in more resists than the boots, then you're on drugs.
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By geigei 2017-03-26 03:31:05  
I do think that, unless you're the only person who knows how much resistance pflug gives...please share.
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By Siren.Kyte 2017-03-26 03:43:20  
Pflug is a direct resist, whereas meva factors into macc comparisons. There may be some situations where the meva is as good or slightly better, but 1) it's hard to fit the body into a good DT-resist set or DD set (the boots are just a macro piece so zero issue there) and 2) some statuses tend to be more accurate, meaning direct resist is far more reliable. I'll grant you that the body does have good +HP, though.
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2017-03-26 07:38:36  
geigei said: »
I do think that, unless you're the only person who knows how much resistance pflug gives...please share.
According to the google translate of JP wiki, Pflug adds 10% resistance per rune, before boots and merits. But... google translate, so take it with a grain of salt.
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2017-03-26 07:47:24  
Ragnarok.Martel said: »
geigei said: »
I do think that, unless you're the only person who knows how much resistance pflug gives...please share.
According to the google translate of JP wiki, Pflug adds 10% resistance per rune, before boots and merits. But... google translate, so take it with a grain of salt.

So ignis x3 Pflug with AF+3 boots would be...70% para/bind resist? Or maybe 60% if Pflug+ works like Cardinal Chant and it's +25% per point.
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2017-03-26 08:09:28  
I really have no idea how you came up with those numbers using what I just posted.

10% base per rune.
If maxed merits, 15%.
Assuming +1 on boots = +1 resist per rune, then +3 boots would bring it to 19% per rune.
3 runes = 57% resist.

I do not atm the moment see any reason to assume the Pflug enhancement works like cardinal chant. If it did though, and +1 = 25% of current base then...

+4 would equal 100%, so 15*2=30 * 3 runes = 90%.

I really, really doubt that's the case.

Wanna go over how your getting your numbers?
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By Asura.Sechs 2017-03-28 16:37:12  
Which path did you guys go on your Carmine Legs +1 and why? Thanks
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By fillerbunny9 2017-03-28 16:39:08  
Path D - lots of accuracy and Dual Wield flexibility for COR/BLU in high accuracy sets.
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2017-03-28 16:41:33  
If you're torn between which path to use, you can always buy another pair of Voodoo Cuisses. They're less than 10M on my server.
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2017-03-28 16:43:46  
Carmine Cuisses +1 are one of the pieces I'm considering getting 2 pairs of. Sometimes I want that DW, sometimes I don't.

Edit: Wow, they're only 5m here. Definitely just gonna buy a second pair, lol.
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By Asura.Sechs 2017-03-28 16:50:05  
Fenrir.Snaps said: »
If you're torn between which path to use
I was more torn between "meh", as in none of the path seemed particularly interesting to me.

I guess the DW path opens up some nice options for TPing while DWing swords, but I haven't been doing that in ages X.x
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2017-03-28 16:51:12  
Only time I found swords appealing is doing Omen objectives since GS SC properties blow.
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By fillerbunny9 2017-03-28 17:11:35  
both B and D offer a lot of accuracy in that slot, especially if you are pairing with Mask +1 and/or Greaves +1. when using 2 pieces it's an extra 20 Accuracy, 30 for 3. if you're going to be swinging a Lionheart at T4s, they're going to come in handy. if you primarily tank and nothing else, then you don't even need to augment them period because you're probably just using them for movement speed or possibly spellcasting.
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By Asura.Sechs 2017-03-28 17:12:36  
On very weak stuff it's fun to DW Firangi/Reikiko and spam those Savage Blades, but yeah, long time since I last did that.

But since I don't really find the other paths appealing and my only 2 carmine jobs are RDM and RUN, guess I'll go with DW path for that rare time when I want to DW, and use those + Suppa to cap DW with /NIN
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By Asura.Pergatory 2017-03-29 10:08:13  
I don't really dual wield on RUN so I went path A for HP/INT in my kiting/interrupt builds. (My interrupt build was in desperate need of some HP until I did a few things like this.)
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By Asura.Oronyx 2017-04-09 21:01:55  
Haven't played in over a year and starting that 'return' to ff11 itch that everyone gets. How does a geared RUN fare against other dps classes when played as a dps class with the Lionheart?
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By Sylph.Oraen 2017-04-09 21:08:48  
Extremely well. Lionheart is a phenomenal weapon and arguably the absolute best for Resolution. RUN also does not lack at all for strong Resolution gear, either. STR/TA Herculean pieces work wonders, and coupled with Temper, you'll see some excellent numbers. The only drawback for RUN is their low native attack and Reso's attack penalty, so you'll only see that amazing DD potential when coupled with high amounts of buffs. But in any situation in which you are capping attack, RUN with Lionheart is an absolute monster and more than capable of competing with or flat out beating any other DD.
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2017-04-09 21:32:03  
DD RUN is one of my new favorite roles to fill. 95% of the time I'm in a hybrid set due to the need of me to also tank as well as DD, but I still beat our BLUs and keep up with our THFs (no one in my LS plays WAR and our only DRKs have quit) provided I'm getting buffed enough to cap ratio on my target.

RUN also has the advantage of building higher resistance than other DDs to ailments that would otherwise hinder DPS such as Stun and Amnesia.
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2017-04-09 22:44:01  
What do your hybrid sets look like? I'm finishing of 2100 RUN atm, haven't planned out too many sets yet.
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2017-04-09 22:54:29  
I'm normally wearing this. Hands have DT-5%, Acc8, Att8 from a DM aug. Thinking of changing Ahosi to Herc, but haven't gotten around to making a pair of DT/Acc feet yet.

ItemSet 350417
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2017-04-09 23:26:03  
RUN can rock some pretty sick hybrid setups, depending on needs and available options. I have two 5hit /SAM builds in my profie that work with Epeolatry, one with Ashera Harness and one without. Plenty of ways to branch out from there, build for Lionheart, forego the 5hit for a bit of extra HP, etc.

I'd link sets but I'm stuck on mobile right now. Home net is out for a while due to a recent storm.
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By Afania 2017-04-10 00:58:35  
Fenrir.Snaps said: »
What do your hybrid sets look like? I'm finishing of 2100 RUN atm, haven't planned out too many sets yet.

Did spreadsheet a while ago, this is the highest Dps set with pdt- 50% (and capped mdt with shell V) that I can find without considering Ashera Harness. Haven't check sets with harness.

ItemSet 350306

QA+3 augment on herc feet/hands, head has pdt- 4% augment (D). Since +2 has 1 more pdt- now feel free to use NQ ring/ammo. Not sure if I'm missing other swaps to push dps higher without sacrificing pdt-.

Epeo III probably need a different set since AM3 favors stp.
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2017-04-10 01:46:22  
Oh damn I didn't even see D path of Adhemar bonnet, that makes me want to put it together for my THF's HP/hybrid set.
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By Sylph.Ice 2017-04-10 01:47:11  
ItemSet 350420

This is what I use for hybrid. It's ~3% short of capped, but offers a decent chunk of acc.
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2017-04-10 01:51:26  
Sylph.Ice said: »
ItemSet 350420

This is what I use for hybrid. It's ~3% short of capped, but offers a decent chunk of acc.

This is probably closer to how I'd do a hybrid set. I wouldn't even try to absolutely max DT, the goal, to me, is a few swaps to DT over max DPS. Ambuskadi set gets used heavily in my hybrid set, and the +2 is only going to help it.
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