Curious to how people are doing this now, trying DD x 4 sch brd with mixed results, mainly having about 10 2 floor jumps, doing 80's.. Using no help tools at all..
thankyou
edit after 3 runs didnt get any jumps more than 5, which was max pretty much.....
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sch brd smn dd x3 works amazingly
Cerberus.Anjisnu said: » sch brd smn dd x3 works amazingly I wouldn't have imagined that. Idk why you'd want a smn in there, but a 4th DD would be perfect. You still have close to capped haste with march x2+haste and sch can AoE Regen5 still. Boss will be cake with Embrava + SV March/Min too. DDs are just going to have to pay attention to their defenses a bit more now. Gogo Apoc drk!
Cerberus.Drayco said: » Idk why you'd want a smn in there, but a 4th DD would be perfect. You still have close to capped haste with march x2+haste and sch can AoE Regen5 still. Boss will be cake with Embrava + SV March/Min too. DDs are just going to have to pay attention to their defenses a bit more now. Gogo Apoc drk! exactly what we have been doing, but jumps are just making it impossible Havnt been able to test this one yet but i think a Relic or Empy bard (forgot which one at 99 gives 4 songs but 3 works too) using Double MArch and Att songs with a SCH for Regen/Regain and 4 strong DDs would work well, if anyone can test this group before i can PM me.
a good smn is a good dd as well as a buffer pred claws hitting for 2-3k and shattersoul in the 1800 range hastega and earthen ward that being said i still wanna try to 6 bst it lol
sometimes you just gotta be a little crazy to get lucky maybe thats whats happening on the smn setup
I'm probably biased as I love BLU beyond belief, but I really think it's even more amazing than it used to be now. With the lower amount of healing being done over time, having a couple BLUs that can keep themselves and their partner alive has been a godsend.
I'd probably recommend SCH, BRD, 2x BLU, 2x heavy DD, but that's just me.
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I might suggest 3x war/drk/sam/mnk a good blu. if you think you're a good blu, you're not. you'd know if you are. A sch and a cor. Cors don't provide quite as much buffs as an empy brd, but they can pack quite the punch while giving 2 rather nice buffs. Just make sure your sch knows how to maintain a haste cycle. that thing ppl learned how to do in '06.
Oh and i might add that i personally prefer mnk over any of those DDs i mentioned. especially because you dont have the crazy regain you once did, so you now, more than ever, have to rely on a steady balance of DD from TP and WS. and MNK wins there Seems like Cor rolls would just eat up to much time in there, but I've honestly not tried it yet. Not sure if losing marches for Chaos/Fighters/whatever would be worth it either.
Asura.Werdxi said: » if you think you're a good blu, you're not. you'd know if you are.
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I know plenty of people that "know" they are good BLUs and are in actuality quite mediocre at their best.
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Would anyone recommend 5DD 1SCH?
Fenrir.Reece said: » Would anyone recommend 5DD 1SCH? Well here's what WE DID!
SCH Regen V + Phalanx + Enthunder BRD/WHM Pianissimo March and main cured (ran after them all) WHM/NIN WInja ! Relic club 95 and some horendously good offhand. BLU/NIN NIN/WAR SAM/WAR (99 masamune) SAM came last on boss and overall WS due to the 1handed update being epic. Winja did amazing dmg, saw 5k ws in NNI on trash mobs. On boss it was invaluable (100 floor) Esuna and aoe Erase made him not too bad with his 3 effect downs spamming rubbish, plus healing support where needed. We have won 5/8 runs with this set up, all the 1 handers beat the SAM who was previously winning before nerf.
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BTW we have used a SMN for various strats in this and it worked, so Enough with SMN hate >:O
A 99 masamune sam losing to a nin and a whm dd is really pushing what I can believe. The change to 1h brings the attack cap to level with 2h, but that only matters when you can cap attack pre-nerf anyway - something whm struggles on due to the lack of mage gear with atk+.
As for setup, my two cents as they are.. SCH/RDM for regen, phalanx, enspells and cures BRD/COR to buff at lamp (/cor for a single roll, rather than waste the subjob) 1~2 BLU; its been said, but a good blu is worth a lot. Any more than 2 can oversaturate though. 2~3 heavy DD - war, drk, sam, drg, etc. @Jirachi the extra songs come from emp harp, +1 at 90, +2 at 99.
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Siren.Seiri said: » A 99 masamune sam losing to a nin and a whm dd is really pushing what I can believe.
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Siren.Seiri said: » A 99 masamune sam losing to a nin and a whm dd is really pushing what I can believe. Has "pics or it didnt happen" ever been more appropriate?
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@Seiri Thank you for that information, i heard from someone Ghorn added extra songs @99 too, was unsure if it did or not looks like i know whats next on my list of stuff i need then...*pulls out an 8 page note book* time to get busy!
Would maybe a brd/smn be better than /cor? Hastega from Garuda is very helpful as far as time goes. Just spitballing here.
I wasn't even the WHM, so I'm not making myself look good.
The SAM is good, I'm not sure on his ws gear. That said I've seen a SAM with 99 masamune and 99 relic Bow with an 8 hit build lol! Weapons are not everything (the sam has 4 hit build in this instance however). I'll get you all a video of next NNI and parser for all you none believers. On the plus tho the Sam Destoryed Goaty custard. I think the sam was full time Siegan however due to the reduce cures / regen so this may explain the reasons why. BRD can't do AOE songs at the rune every floor due to cast time and duration you would waste a TON of time at runes.
1 healer on bosses? Not a smart move even if only going to 80. Pre nerf we tried SCH/SMN with hastega, it worked well, but the idea on this one is BRD main cures and SCH buffs at rune and saves MP for bosses etc. Perhaps BRD/RDM SCH/SMN? that might work as keeping hate on everyone wasn't doable with the SCH at rune Cerberus.Conagh said: » That said I've seen a SAM with 99 masamune and 99 relic Bow with an 8 hit build lol!
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You wouldn't need to do it on every floor, merits and some rather basic gear mean you only have to cast, what was it, six times total?
On the boss floor you'd have temps, SV-songs, and (gimped but still) Embrava. Honestly, if you need a lot of healing at that point the group should never have gotten there.
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Cerberus.Conagh said: » 14.4*8 = 115.2 So he either wore negative store tp or sword strap or you're wrong
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