Cibitshavore Vs Hangaku-no-Yumi

DMG:261 Delay:600 AGI+3 Ranged Accuracy+6 Archery skill +242
Path C: STR+12, R. Acc+10, Store TP+7
vs
DMG:251 Delay:600 Ranged Accuracy+15 Ranged Attack+25 Archery skill +242 "True Shot"+1 "TP Bonus"+1000

Idn about you guys but i still think the Delve bow is still better. in DPS and WS. And if you put it into spreedsheets delve bow still wins out. Idn what are you guys opinions on this.

What spread sheets? It would be cool to have a link so I could do my own rearch

What target, gearsets, mainhand weapon, weaponskill, buffs?

I've goofed around with it a bit in mote's sheets and I basically always get Hangaku beating Cibi if using Apex. That's against high level stuff assuming ranged brd buffs and other standard stuffs.

Do/were you not around for the 75 cap days?

Or do you not pay attention at all? TP bonus is an amazing thing, why do you think almost everyone advocates WotG TP bonus moonshade?

Spread sheets are found by googling DPS spreadsheets ffxi, or montenten's spreadsheets etc.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B0A0wGYYRRdaZjdlNTdkNTEtMDMyYy00OTVmLWI4N2ItNDMwMDI1N2VkYWZk&usp=drive_web&urp=https://www.google.com/url?sa%3Dt%26rct%3Dj%26q%3D%26esrc%3Ds%26so&pli=1#

The issue is Apex's TP scaling isn't dmg but the amount of def it ignores. So that somewhat weakens the TP bonus effect on the bow.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Jishnu%27s_Radiance

Far as lolapex;

"Ignores defense based on tp", almost literally translates directly into "more damage based on tp".

Situation pending, 99% of the time etcetc.

I only looked at Apex since I'm more concerned with SAM, Jinshu's benefits a lot more from the TP bonus.


More or less, yes, but the ignores defense above 100tp hasn't been tested as far as I know.

A little bit of preliminary testing suggests ~20% ignored at 200% TP and ~30% ignored at 300% TP. I had this argument last week.