Is It Worth It?

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is it worth it?
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By gargurty 2015-08-27 07:55:10  
got atm 914 geo/handb combo. Is it worth getting ado ring to go 924 max combo?
And whats the difrence?
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By Ramyrez 2015-08-27 08:06:01  
Granted you at least landed it in the Geomancer forum, but your thread title is almost vague to the point of confusion and ultimately may not get you what you're looking for as many people navigate new posts by what they see on the front page, which doesn't reflect where the post was made.

May I suggest altering it to something to the effect of "Handbell and geomancy skill questions"?
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By fonewear 2015-08-27 08:12:18  
There is only one way to answer your question. "Yes it's worth it"
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By Ramyrez 2015-08-27 08:19:17  
fonewear said: »
There is only one way to answer your question. "Yes it's worth it"

See? Also, you get responses from people like Fone.

Don't get responses from people like Fone.

Appropriately title your threads.

That said, I see this ring nowhere in the Geomancer guide other than as optional for idle, and I would assume that means it is not necessary.
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By fonewear 2015-08-27 08:20:28  
To be fair I actually answered his question !
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2015-08-27 08:26:48  
Correct me if I'm wrong but I can only account for 840 skill:

389 Geo Skill + merits
389 handbell skill + merits

With this set:
ItemSet 337387

So 850 with ring, according to BGWiki your potency increases every 180 combined skill levels with the next tier is 900 if you can authentically reach it, so in essence it's not worth it I guess.

Does a lot of geomancy + handbell stuff come from escha - Ru'Aun? There doesn't seem to much info on BGWiki for it but like I said, next potency tier in theory is 900 if it doesn't already cap out, so if you're already there it looks like you don't need the ring.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2015-08-27 08:29:47  
I have to agree, with a thread title like that, I'm surprised Draylo hasn't responded. But you did get Fone, so there's that.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-08-27 08:32:20  
Draylo said:
Yes, it's worth it.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2015-08-27 08:37:28  
Draylo's twitching right now, I'm sure.
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By fonewear 2015-08-27 08:47:23  
This song played in my mind also when I saw the title:

Is it worth it, let me work it
I put my thing down, flip it and reverse it
Ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gniht ym tup I
Ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gniht ym tup I
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By Asura.Hoshiku 2015-08-27 10:58:36  
Different spells have different potency tiers - I believe some spells require as little as 10 skill to increase the buff/debuff. So technically yes that ring would matter. With that being said some of those other rings are amazingly awesome so unless your only job is mule geomancer you probably won't get the ring.

As for the other skill my math isn't quite matching yours, Tidis. You would have 810 skill from max skill and merits. The gear shown above gives you another 62 skill (don't forget the augment on the cape). When you add in dunna you get another 18 skill. You also get another 46 skill from having 910 job points. So without ring it's possible to be at 936 skill.
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2015-08-27 11:32:43  
Ah ok, job points, forgot about those, as for max skill + merits, shouldn't it be:

373 + 373 + 16 + 16? = 778
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By Asura.Hoshiku 2015-08-27 11:45:05  
It might be, I took those numbers directly from your post, but I think I misunderstood what you were saying (it looked like you meant 389 skill + merits). In that case you can get to 904 skill without the ring.
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By Cerberus.Fiasko 2015-08-27 12:36:55  
Cerberus.Tidis said: »
Correct me if I'm wrong but I can only account for 840 skill:

389 Geo Skill + merits
389 handbell skill + merits

With this set:
ItemSet 337387

So 850 with ring, according to BGWiki your potency increases every 180 combined skill levels with the next tier is 900 if you can authentically reach it, so in essence it's not worth it I guess.

Does a lot of geomancy + handbell stuff come from escha - Ru'Aun? There doesn't seem to much info on BGWiki for it but like I said, next potency tier in theory is 900 if it doesn't already cap out, so if you're already there it looks like you don't need the ring.

There is also the club with another 5 Solstice
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By Asura.Failaras 2015-08-27 12:42:45  
I'm assuming you are talking about getting Renaye Ring for your SoA reward? No you shouldn't, weatherspoon is by far the better ring for Geomancer. Quick Magic benefits T5 nukes way too much to ignore. +10 Skill does very little in practice.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Trulusia 2015-08-27 13:08:29  
Asura.Failaras said: »
I'm assuming you are talking about getting Renaye Ring for your SoA reward? No you shouldn't, weatherspoon is by far the better ring for Geomancer. Quick Magic benefits T5 nukes way too much to ignore. +10 Skill does very little in practice.

Only if you are using gearswap. If you aren't, quick magic just *** you up and doesn't belong in your precast.
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By Shiva.Applesmash 2015-08-27 22:26:52  
Then be a filthy cheater and use gearswap because, yes it's worth it.
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By gargurty 2015-08-28 09:30:33  
right now with ado ring im at 924 combined skill for me geomancer. Also a 5.15 indi duration wich is max too.
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By Ifrit.Zadora 2015-08-29 09:25:48  
reti pendant Drops from tier1 Bia in Escha Ru'aun and gives +5 handbell.
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By Bismarck.Johnb 2015-08-29 10:09:55  
Cerberus.Tidis said: »
Correct me if I'm wrong but I can only account for 840 skill:

389 Geo Skill + merits
389 handbell skill + merits

With this set:
ItemSet 337387

So 850 with ring, according to BGWiki your potency increases every 180 combined skill levels with the next tier is 900 if you can authentically reach it, so in essence it's not worth it I guess.

Does a lot of geomancy + handbell stuff come from escha - Ru'Aun? There doesn't seem to much info on BGWiki for it but like I said, next potency tier in theory is 900 if it doesn't already cap out, so if you're already there it looks like you don't need the ring.

You can get over 900 with job points, merits, etc. and top gear. I myself have 884 but I need the last geo skill and handbell gifts to get to 904
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By gargurty 2015-08-29 10:39:06  
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The back has 10 skill 20 duration on it
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By Asura.Hoshiku 2015-08-31 12:01:40  
So uh, looks like effects from skill caps at 900.
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By Asura.Sechs 2015-08-31 14:29:02  
Asura.Hoshiku said: »
So uh, looks like effects from skill caps at 900.
That's supposing SE is right... wouldn't be the first time they're not.
But yeah, I thought the same exact thing as you when I read that post.
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By Sylph.Ykfan 2015-08-31 23:11:12  
I capped gift with 904 combined skill at this moment. I think we better wait for the last gift bonus to see if there is any new tier breaker.
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By Ramyrez 2015-09-01 08:00:00  
Quetzalcoatl.Trulusia said: »
Only if you are using gearswap.

There's no reason to not, and don't give me that console bs.
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By gargurty 2015-09-01 08:32:55  
Btw if ye dual wield solstice you can get max combo skill of 929 and indi suration 5.30. Still working on getting another club but i wanna test it out on /nin or /dnc for fun :)
 
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