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Ogma's cape
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By Bursto 2016-04-05 14:30:34  
I've tested a few times and I get 3 minute and 35 second duration on valiance and 2 minute 35 second duration vallation while wearing Runeist Coat +1 and Ogma's cape. Sadly I do not believe the affects of these two items stack.

Base valiance 3min
Base vallation 2min
20/20 Vallation jobpoints 20sec
Cape or body 15sec

I would be happy to be proven wrong as I was excited about the additional duration.
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By Asura.Sechs 2016-04-05 15:03:33  
Try Ogma's Cape alone, to see if its augment isn't broken.
Huge disappointment if it doesn't stack with Runeist. Might want to file a report on official forums in case it's a bug?
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By Bursto 2016-04-05 17:38:25  
I tested the cape alone and you are correct. It does not work at all. Valiance was 3 min and 20 secs and Vallation was 2 min and 20 secs.
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By Shiva.Alistrianna 2016-04-06 11:57:24  
Did you test with the cape on for the full duration to see if it worked? Wouldn't be the first time SE gave a JA enhancing item that you were forced to keep on for the entire duration.
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By Siren.Kyte 2016-04-06 12:20:22  
It would be the first time for a JA enhancing item that boosts duration. Durations are determined on cast/on activation, end of story.
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By Asura.Sechs 2016-04-06 12:23:55  
The cape is definitely broken, unless the +15 is not duration but something else.
Is the JP description of the cape the same as the JP description of the Runeist Body?

If it is, it would hint furthermore at the being broken thing.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Falkirk 2016-04-09 16:04:08  
Ogma's Cape must be incompatible with Valiance/Vallation job points, because it works fine without those.

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By Ragnarok.Afania 2016-04-09 16:42:08  
Quetzalcoatl.Falkirk said: »
Ogma's Cape must be incompatible with Valiance/Vallation job points, because it works fine without those.



Maybe there's cap on duration increase from jp and items, just like qd or bp recast.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2016-04-09 20:45:13  
That seems unlikely. Are there any other JAs for which +duration is capped? I'm much more inclined to pin this on spaghetti code.
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By Asura.Pergatory 2016-06-16 19:38:36  
Was this fixed?

If not I can add my testing with 1 job point, both items worked as expected.

Ogma's Cape alone = 2:16 duration

Ogma's Cape and Runeist Coat = 2:31 duration
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2016-06-16 20:25:23  
Yes, a bit ago.
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By Cerberus.Devlin 2017-07-08 07:54:12  
for augmenting this for tanking would you do hp Eva/m.eva enmity or would you do fast cast? Or are there better augments to go with?
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By Leviathan.Vedder 2017-07-08 13:29:05  
I have 3 atm myself one is hp/meva/Eva/enmity+meva, another is hp/meva/Eva/fastest+meva and another is for reso STR/acc/atk/da+str. My evasionists back is pretty sweet so havnt needed a tp one just yet but its in the works.

That being said I think your first option for enmity is best since rune has naturally high fc followed by a fc one so you can possibly swap around merits/get closer to fc cap
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By Taint 2017-07-08 14:04:45  
It really depends on what content you are doing.

i justed started RUN so my first cape was STR/acc/da for
CP farming and Resolution.

My second cape will be HP/Eva/emn for tanking Omen/aeonic mobs.

My third cape will be dex/acc/da for a true TP cape.

4th will be hp/Eva/FC

5th (very low priority) dex/acc/wsdmg.
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By Cerberus.Devlin 2017-07-08 14:36:47  
Thanks for the replies I do appreciate it. Evemtuslly I will make tp and ws capes. I agree the evasionists cape isn't too bad right now for tp so I use that as well xD
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By Shiva.Arislan 2017-07-08 16:05:19  
A lot of us are just hybrid -DT/TP tanking stuff nowadays, since we're under the effect of melee buffs/bubbles, so DEX/Acc/Att/STP is the Ogma I use the most.
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By Leviathan.Vedder 2017-07-08 16:24:26  
Was gonna ask, is a stp cape the way to go over DA for run? Or is it more dependent on your overall build?
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By Leviathan.Sidra 2017-07-08 16:25:20  
When is STP v DA ever not build dependent? :)

/em slaps the silly Dark Knight.
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By Leviathan.Brotherhood 2017-07-08 16:33:19  
Leviathan.Sidra said: »
When is STP v DA ever not build dependent? :)

/em slaps the silly Dark Knight.


Wierd Drg...
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By Shiva.Arislan 2017-07-08 16:35:53  
Leviathan.Vedder said: »
Was gonna ask, is a stp cape the way to go over DA for run? Or is it more dependent on your overall build?

I'm usually riding Epeo AM3 while hybrid tanking, so STP all the way for me.

With Lionheart, I'm dialed into a 4-hit build in full buff situations, so I need STP on back slot to maintain that.

If your situation differs, then maybe DA will be better for you.
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By Taint 2017-07-08 16:54:28  
Mind posting your sets?

DEX/acc/stp?
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By Leviathan.Vedder 2017-07-08 17:02:11  
Lol sid, yea on run I'm leaning towards stp back cause most of the herc gear I have is TA augmented so building xhit for me at least is looking stp as the best setup. Ill post my various sets (have a bunch for rune... almost more then my drk which is crazy) when not (slacking) hard at work lol
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By Afania 2017-07-08 17:20:46  
Leviathan.Vedder said: »
Was gonna ask, is a stp cape the way to go over DA for run? Or is it more dependent on your overall build?

It depend on your SJ and whether you have SAM roll or not. /DRK and not getting sam roll favors stp since it shaves one hit off. With SAM roll or /SAM, DA seems to have higher dps on my spreadsheet.
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By Leviathan.Brotherhood 2017-07-08 17:28:28  
Afania said: »
Leviathan.Vedder said: »
Was gonna ask, is a stp cape the way to go over DA for run? Or is it more dependent on your overall build?

It depend on your SJ and whether you have SAM roll or not. /DRK and not getting sam roll favors stp since it shaves one hit off. With SAM roll or /SAM, DA seems to have higher dps on my spreadsheet.

Assume no cor for rolls, or a selfish one that gives tact and range roll

What is ideal Cape then for /sam /drk and /blu in terms of DD and WS
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By Leviathan.Vedder 2017-07-08 17:30:22  
Leviathan.Brotherhood said: »
Afania said: »
Leviathan.Vedder said: »
Was gonna ask, is a stp cape the way to go over DA for run? Or is it more dependent on your overall build?

It depend on your SJ and whether you have SAM roll or not. /DRK and not getting sam roll favors stp since it shaves one hit off. With SAM roll or /SAM, DA seems to have higher dps on my spreadsheet.

Assume no cor for rolls, or a selfish one that gives tact and range roll

What is ideal Cape then for /sam /drk and /blu in terms of DD and WS
Lmao I know who you're talking about lololol
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By Leviathan.Brotherhood 2017-07-08 18:31:51  
Leviathan.Vedder said: »
Leviathan.Brotherhood said: »
Afania said: »
Leviathan.Vedder said: »
Was gonna ask, is a stp cape the way to go over DA for run? Or is it more dependent on your overall build?

It depend on your SJ and whether you have SAM roll or not. /DRK and not getting sam roll favors stp since it shaves one hit off. With SAM roll or /SAM, DA seems to have higher dps on my spreadsheet.

Assume no cor for rolls, or a selfish one that gives tact and range roll

What is ideal Cape then for /sam /drk and /blu in terms of DD and WS
Lmao I know who you're talking about lololol
3 ppl actually. 2 galka 1 Me.
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By Leviathan.Vedder 2017-07-08 19:03:07  
Hey! I love giving sam+drk rolls as cor! Melee cor for life! /getssplatteredeveryAoE......,, well, that didn't last long..
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By Leviathan.Vedder 2017-07-08 19:28:28  
ItemSet 352230



ItemSet 352227

Just stuff I threw together currently, I don't find myself often in hybrid builds. I do have a wide assortment of gear and working on getting more herc to augment and am slowly collecting omen gear/cards for rune

Weapons wise I have mont+1/aettir/Biden;flyssa(ilvl haut)/demersal/fettering

Tanking I do ok but dding+tanking and hybrids I'm weak on yet
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By Shiva.Arislan 2017-07-09 06:57:48  
Taint said: »
Mind posting your sets?

ItemSet 352228

ItemSet 352235
* Ashera would be great here