Fix Smn Burn?

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fix smn burn?
 Garuda.Snuffy
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By Garuda.Snuffy 2010-03-23 22:15:04  
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Not really. Ever analogy on the subject over generalises it.
Overgeneralize like along the lines of "Most players who AB to 75 suck"
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-03-23 22:20:05  
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Fairy.Brenda said:
I dont need to build a car, to know how to drive it.

Only problem I see is when someone is a bad player, the just assume they burned, when more often than not, they just suck.

Bad analogy is bad.

You could also say:

You need driving lessons, to know how to drive a car.
Bad analogy. WHen you learn to drive a car, it's the same as when you are driving the car after the lessons. Playing 1-74 is a lot different than how you play the job at 75
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-03-23 22:22:49  
Garuda.Snuffy said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Not really. Ever analogy on the subject over generalises it.
Overgeneralize like along the lines of "Most players who AB to 75 suck"

Or more like "Everyone who AB's is as good as those who have levelled legit"
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By Seraph.Chasuro 2010-03-23 22:37:43  
I keep seeing this phrase in this thread, Fix Smn burn parties.

SE doesn't consider anything broken. So what makes you think they are going to look for a fix?
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By Phoenix.Jile 2010-03-23 22:59:34  
I have to lol every time I read a thread like this.

Guys, experienced players doing smn burns are not generally the issue people have with people doing smn burns.

55 pt camp having PLD show up to sync and does not have cure3 or cure4 and doesn't use sentinel until right as the mob dies though, IS.

People doing smn burns that don't have at least one level75 they they have earned through hours of effort, learning and skilling the job and understanding what HATE MANAGEMENT is, or even general pt dynamics.

Now you are indeed correct, people that cant learn the job after a burn should quit... I really detest those unskilled people before they quit though because I seem to be stuck with them in my pt LOL >.>

I'm not actually attempting to step on anyone's toes with this post. I'm not saying smn burn is wrong for everyone but lets not pretend its right for everyone either mkay?

Noobs should be forced to work for their first 75. After that, if they prefer to have the easy route, at least they'll understand wtf ppl are supposed to be doing in your pt, your event, in all aspects of the game...
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By Garuda.Snuffy 2010-03-23 23:08:28  
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Garuda.Snuffy said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Not really. Ever analogy on the subject over generalises it.
Overgeneralize like along the lines of "Most players who AB to 75 suck"

Or more like "Everyone who AB's is as good as those who have levelled legit"

No, everyone has been saying that it is merely possible to be as good(or better), it is not guaranteed and it is definitely generalized in favor of AB as much as AB is generalized to be bad. Case in point, there are several SMN burn *** threads but you don't see anyone starting a thread saying "I recommend everyone doing AB". It's always "I recommend everyone stop doing AB or get bent hurr"
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By Sylph.Sindri 2010-03-23 23:11:55  
denied.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-03-23 23:25:25  
Garuda.Snuffy said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Garuda.Snuffy said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Not really. Ever analogy on the subject over generalises it.
Overgeneralize like along the lines of "Most players who AB to 75 suck"

Or more like "Everyone who AB's is as good as those who have levelled legit"

No, everyone has been saying that it is merely possible to be as good(or better), it is not guaranteed and it is definitely generalized in favor of AB as much as AB is generalized to be bad. Case in point, there are several SMN burn *** threads but you don't see anyone starting a thread saying "I recommend everyone doing AB". It's always "I recommend everyone stop doing AB or get bent hurr"

Believe what you want. The majority of this forum is for AB's rather than against.

Like I said Idc, do what you want your loss.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-23 23:36:19  
I'm not reading all the posts in this thread, But if anyone QQ's about "SMN Burns make shitty players!!" Let me ask, Do you remember the last time you PT'd with a SMN? ....Yeah, me, either.
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By Fairy.Ant 2010-03-23 23:40:45  
its 2010, l2p however way you want or get out
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By Fairy.Victoire 2010-03-23 23:40:48  
If they took away the ability to do 3 BPs during your regular Astral Flow, summoners who did all of their mini-fork battles wouldn't be able to win without extreme patience and skill. Carby kiting and DOTing the avatars isn't that easy at level 20.
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By Seraph.Punchus 2010-03-23 23:51:57  
It's ok to be dumb cause dumb can be funny.

It's ok to be ignorant cause ignorance can be corrected.

There is no cure for stupid and it's the stupid people that can't learn to play their jobs properly. AB'd or leveled.

But i'd rather spend 45 minutes pulling an AB for 5 merits than in a 2 hour meritpo for same result.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-23 23:57:15  
My point was, people never invite SMNs, that I've seen anyway, So 1. That's how SMNs lvl now, and 2. If these "shitty players" aren't in your PT, why do you care?

Then again, I love being in some low-lvl PT and some idiot who literally got 75 hours before the PT throws out "I know what I'm doing!! I'm a 75 (insert job)!!" Then I get to laugh at someone with 75 Syndrome, SMN Burns may give me more chances for that. Oh, joy!~
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-03-23 23:59:00  
Idc about the rdm's or the smn's doing it. My beef is with the leechers.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-24 00:00:36  
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Idc about the rdm's or the smn's doing it. My beef is with the leechers.

I'd leech SCH to 75. Or atleast to 49... Good idea..