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By daddyrabbit4444 2010-04-01 13:57:21  
does magic acc. effect blu mage physical spells from being resisted? or does that only apply to magic spells?
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By daddyrabbit4444 2010-04-01 13:59:02  
just a follow up does anyone know @/when acc. caps on blu?
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-04-01 14:01:38  
Not sure what you mean by resisted. If you mean the additional effects procing then probably. If you mean the spell landing or not no.

It completely depends on what you are fighting. But if you equip acc bonus and tp in decent amount of acc gear like homam or switf belt acc neck back etc and eat sushi you will be decently above the acc on most any xp lvl mob you'll face.
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By daddyrabbit4444 2010-04-01 14:06:00  
when i say resisted i mean if it lands at all, usualy indicated with a statement ur spell did not take effect.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-04-01 14:07:32  
Did not take effect means it missed, not that it got resisted. Semantics etc, it's the correct term. Cap is 95% hitrate, macc does not affect physical spell accuracy.
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By Diabolos.Torazalinto 2010-04-01 19:57:08  
BLU Accuracies:

Physical: Weapon Accuracy
Physical Spell's Additional Effect: Blue skill + Magic Accuracy
Magical Blue Spells: Blue Skill + Magical Accuracy.
Magical Blue Spell Additional Effects: Testing has shown that Macc effects the additional effect. Elemental Staves matching the EFFECT'S ELEMENT (not the spells element)will increase accuracy. I.E. Regurgitation will receive a Magic Accuracy boost from Water staff but it's bind will only receive a boost from the Ice Staff.
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By Sylph.Sindri 2010-04-01 20:02:05  
daddyrabbit4444 said:
just a follow up does anyone know @/when acc. caps on blu?

Acc caps at 95% on all jobs.
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By Odin.Blazza 2010-04-01 20:05:11  
Diabolos.Torazalinto said:
Physical Spell's Additional Effect: Blue skill Magic Accuracy
Magical Blue Spell Additional Effects: Testing has shown that Macc effects the additional effect. Elemental Staves matching the EFFECT'S ELEMENT (not the spells element)will increase accuracy. I.E. Regurgitation will receive a Magic Accuracy boost from Water staff but it's bind will only receive a boost from the Ice Staff.
I'd love to see your testing on this...
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By Thoraeon 2010-04-01 20:21:27  
i have heard some spells utilize r.acc.

is this true? if so, which spells?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-04-01 20:29:46  
Odin.Blazza said:
Diabolos.Torazalinto said:
Physical Spell's Additional Effect: Blue skill Magic Accuracy
Magical Blue Spell Additional Effects: Testing has shown that Macc effects the additional effect. Elemental Staves matching the EFFECT'S ELEMENT (not the spells element)will increase accuracy. I.E. Regurgitation will receive a Magic Accuracy boost from Water staff but it's bind will only receive a boost from the Ice Staff.
I'd love to see your testing on this...
Beat me to it. This came up a while back, but no data was ever produced aside from a brief test I conducted that I'm inclined to discard. I know the additional effect is generally aligned with its black/white magic equivalent (light sleep an exception, sorta), but my test only proved that point rather than anything concerning add effect macc.
Thoraeon said:
i have heard some spells utilize r.acc.

is this true? if so, which spells?
Certain spells are calculated as ranged attacks, but whether or not they use racc I don't know... Given that we don't have an innate racc skill, it would be quite odd.
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By Odin.Blazza 2010-04-01 20:55:56  
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if so, which spells?
crap ones
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By Asura.Kowen 2010-04-01 20:59:24  
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Certain spells are calculated as ranged attacks, but whether or not they use racc I don't know... Given that we don't have an innate racc skill, it would be quite odd.

Doesn't BLU also get access to Rapid Shot?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-04-01 21:16:33  
Yeah, we do. Ironically it's not available until level 38...
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-04-01 21:32:21  
I remember seeing someone saying there was testing about the effects being the element of the effect not the spell before... but can't remember if there was solid testing
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-04-01 21:36:50  
Ramuh.Dasva said:
I remember seeing someone saying there was testing about the effects being the element of the effect not the spell before... but can't remember if there was solid testing
Fire Elementals completely ignore the Bind from Regurgitation iirc. If it was water based it would land just fine.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-04-01 21:38:34  
Yeah and headbutt stun doesn't work worth ***on thunder eles
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By Ramuh.Lilsanchez 2010-04-01 21:44:57  
Answer: No
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By Quetzalcoatl.Wulfy 2010-04-01 21:50:43  
Odin.Blazza said:
Thoraeon said:
if so, which spells?
crap ones
Pinecone Bomb. If fact SE broke it a couple updates back with then Ranged update where it would deal massive amounts of dmg for no reason was hilarious.

And its success is based on RACC. Odd but yeah SE likes to make us BLUs buy a crap ton of extra gear for a single spell for no apparent reason.
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By Cerberus.Ciecle 2010-04-01 21:52:02  
Eyes on Me says hi Wulfy. >.> xD
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-04-01 21:54:41  
Yeah trying to overcome that no innate ranged skill is hard. If I remember right I remember reading something that said PInecone bomb was throwing... at least we can use the lol egg for it
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By Quetzalcoatl.Wulfy 2010-04-01 21:58:48  
We do get Chakrams(sp) and stuff.
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By Cerberus.Ciecle 2010-04-01 21:59:47  
sad thing is, IT looks like SE attempted to make Blu a puller, but forgot to give a throwing skill >.>... Lol
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By Odin.Blazza 2010-04-01 22:00:28  
Quetzalcoatl.Wulfy said:
We do get Chakrams(sp) and stuff.
Yeah but how often do you hit anything with it? Blu only has sword club evasion and parrying skill lol, I think that's the lowest amount of melee skills out of all jobs...
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By Quetzalcoatl.Wulfy 2010-04-01 22:02:30  
Odin.Blazza said:
Quetzalcoatl.Wulfy said:
We do get Chakrams(sp) and stuff.
Yeah but how often do you hit anything with it? Blu only has sword club evasion and parrying skill lol, I think that's the lowest amount of melee skills out of all jobs...

pot-au-fue /rng sharpshot racc gear and you might just hit a too weak~ lol
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-04-01 22:04:32  
I've hit stuff often on blu. I mean really evasion caps so eventually youll hit soemthing. Not counting rng slot though blu can equip a good 120 racc I think