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 Phoenix.Haltro
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By Phoenix.Haltro 2010-06-05 14:16:14  
Looks right to me man.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-06-05 14:18:36  
Acc isn't decimated, the decimals are there but in the end number, they're tossed away. I'll do the accurate version for you.


66+24 dex = 90 x .75 = 67.5 = 67 acc
256 skill = 200 + (56 x .9) = 250.4 = 250 acc
+49 gear = +49
+10 hasso = +10

67 + 250 + 49 + 10 = 376 acc

66+28 dex (btw did you count 1 less dex on your love torque? only +4 from last time) = 94 x .75 = 70.5 = 70 (this is 71 if you meant to add 5 dex not 4)
263 Skill = 200 + (63 x .9) = 256.7 = 256 acc
+39 gear = +39
+10 hasso = +10

70+256+39+10 = 375 (or 376 if you meant +29 dex instead of 28)
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-06-05 14:19:36  
Ah ok, you did change it to 29. then they're the same acc wise. 376 each
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-06-05 14:19:39  
Caitsith.Alriath said:
Missing about 20-30 dex as well. lol@sushi ace's helm.

Point taken on sushi+aces, looks like with ANY acc food i can remove the 7 acc from the head and still stay at 95% acc meaning the 1% haste on turban yada yada... but for devils advocate if i wanted to use attack food in merits what would be a good alternative?

Pizza+1 still caps me without aces. Any constructive idea?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-06-05 14:21:00  
Well what are you fighting? Pizza+1 not very viable on colibri, lol
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-06-05 14:21:20  
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Ah ok, you did change it to 29. then they're the same acc wise. 376 each
True but if i factor in love torque's attack from the skill it obviously wins no?

I have to admit I'm a little disappointed i became this rusty >_<
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-06-05 14:22:19  
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Well what are you fighting? Pizza 1 not very viable on colibri, lol
What would be the best colibri spam food as well? I was more talking along eihenjar and other events as well.

But it would be good to know a basic scenario/list.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-06-05 14:24:17  
Oh, Einherjar pizza for sure. For birds can go kabob or crab sushi either way. From FailureMidgards math they come up to roughly even w/ optimal builds.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-06-05 14:25:02  
Siren.Clinpachi said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Ah ok, you did change it to 29. then they're the same acc wise. 376 each
True but if i factor in love torque's attack from the skill it obviously wins no?

I have to admit I'm a little disappointed i became this rusty >_<
Yea, it does. I was just meaning in terms of acc, you get the same
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By Shiva.Weewoo 2010-06-05 14:25:21  
Would be nice if SE sold pizza by the slice.
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-06-05 14:25:58  
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Oh, Einherjar pizza for sure. For birds can go kabob or crab sushi either way. From FailureMidgards math they come up to roughly even w/ optimal builds.
If i did kabobs though i would be at 80.9% accuracy.

If i did sushi and changed to turban i'd cap at 95% and add 1% haste.

Is this the proper difference or am i missing something?
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-06-05 14:30:10  
Shiva.Weewoo said:
Would be nice if SE sold pizza by the slice.

This x1000.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-06-05 14:30:19  
Yea def sushi for you. Full usu for example while a couple points behind on haste (and if I had dusk+1 I'd def change to mix and match but i don't do yea, -2 haste) and w/ hasso up I'm like at 94% on lv 81 birds and 91% on lv 82 birds give or take. Don't remember the exact number on the top of my head
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-06-05 14:37:14  
Ah ok so that's when you spam kabobs, so that goes back to nearly my OP when i asked what was the point of full usu/usu body (besides just feet) for SAM.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-06-05 14:40:17  
Siren.Clinpachi said:
Ah ok so that's when you spam kabobs, so that goes back to nearly my OP when i asked what was the point of full usu/usu body (besides just feet) for SAM.
I'm pretty sure the ace's dusk+1 build beats it, but I don't have dusk+1 and nq dusk only gives 1% haste more than ace's full usu so yea take that for what it is
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-06-05 14:44:35  
Sorry to request it but i see you're penta build, can you make a TP set reflecting what you use at this moment?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-06-05 14:49:48  
Here's my bird camp penta macro, for meat anyway.

/equip head "Hissho Hachimaki"
/equip neck "Love Torque"
/equip body "Haubergeon +1"
/equip hands "Bandomusha Kote"
/equip ring1 "Rajas Ring"
/equip ring2 "Toreador's Ring"
/equip back "Forager's Mantle"
/equip waist "Virtuoso Belt"
/equip legs "Byakko's Haidate"
/equip feet "Usukane Sune-Ate"
/ws "Penta Thrust" <t>
/wait 1
/equip head "Usukane Somen"
/equip body "Usukane Haramaki"
/equip hands "Usukane Gote"
/equip legs "Usukane Hizayoroi"
/equip Feet "Usukane Sune-Ate"
/equip neck "Love Torque"
/equip ear1 "Brutal Earring"
/equip ring1 "Rajas Ring"
/equip ring2 "Toreador's Ring"
/equip back "Cuchulain's Mantle"
/equip waist "Velocious Belt"


Earrings aren't listed cause they don't change, but active minuet earring if applicable and brutal or swap minuet w/ aseir. I use black tathlum for ammo, pole grip for grip, tomoe wep
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-06-05 14:58:56  
ok that's correct isn't it?

and


for WS?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-06-05 15:01:14  
Yea that's about the size of it. Minuet earring when applicable
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-06-05 15:08:35  
tigerwoods said:
Yea def sushi for you. Full usu for example while a couple points behind on haste (and if I had dusk+1 I'd def change to mix and match but i don't do yea, -2 haste) and w/ hasso up I'm like at 94% on lv 81 birds and 91% on lv 82 birds give or take. Don't remember the exact number on the top of my head



For some reason it's only showing 88.4% without acc food. Don't worry i'm not busting balls i just want to see a real comparison.

What did i miss on you're TP set?
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-06-05 15:18:05  
Tiger is a hume and not an elvan like us. How much more +dex to they have?
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-06-05 15:19:23  
It cant be enough of a DEX difference for over 6acc can it?
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By Carbuncle.Virtuosus 2010-06-05 15:20:16  
With the gear you listed above, you should have DEX+27 btw, not 25.
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-06-05 15:21:17  
Carbuncle.Virtuosus said:
With the gear you listed above, you should have DEX 27 btw, not 25.
Ah yes the fail of FFXIAH showing 3 DEX on rajas instead of 5. I can actually fix that on my own set too now that i think about it.
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-06-05 15:24:05  
K that brings it up to 89.1% with the dex fix from rajas ring. I'm trying to find a hume's base DEX on SAM brb.
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By Carbuncle.Virtuosus 2010-06-05 15:26:36  
Hume 75SAM/37NIN has 3 more DEX, putting Hume at 90.3% accuracy vs. Elvaan's 89.1% (Hasso up)
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-06-05 15:26:39  
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By Vegetto 2010-06-05 15:28:08  
Sorry for the late reply was watching beni, lol

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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-06-05 15:28:45  
K that brings it up to 89.9% after adjusting base to 68 >_< whats missing still or was that an eyeball/estimate tiger?
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By Carbuncle.Virtuosus 2010-06-05 15:30:16  
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
68

As /WAR Elvaan is 65 and Hume is 68, but he had it on his SS of the Calculator as 66 DEX so I assumed he was calculating SAM/NIN (Which has Hume with 69 I'm pretty sure?)
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