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 Caitsith.Mahayaya
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2010-06-21 22:39:10
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The fall of a god today, guys. Feels bad man.
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2010-06-21 22:47:51
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Leviathan.Aneu said:
Affects other jobs who sub mages too, like my NIN/DRK. I don't think anyone doubts that the adjustment probably is for the worse as far as those tanks are concerned...


well nin/drk maybe not if there is a enmity grip equip pole arm, and use soul eater before using spells.... and weapon bash etc. plus all nin has for hate.
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By Hades.Stefanos 2010-06-21 22:48:48
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This is probably a dumb question, and half this thread seems to be trolling anyways, but is there actual confirmation that those spells generate lower enmity now?
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-21 22:55:46
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Hades.Stefanos said:
This is probably a dumb question, and half this thread seems to be trolling anyways, but is there actual confirmation that those spells generate lower enmity now?
Well it was release they were being effected. Lower is a good assumption. How much is idk
 
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By Hades.Stefanos 2010-06-21 23:03:41
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Ah I see. :/

Thank you both, just wanted to be certain.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-06-21 23:13:27
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Well, RDM tanking is now not really a good option compared to PLD tanking. RDM HOLDING is still effective, but PLD is by far the better tank now (not for survivability but for the huge edge in enmity control).
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-21 23:19:15
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Yeah looks like kanican has already updated it.

Thought they were just gunna adjust for lvls but it seems they just hate the idea of rdm tanking
 
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-21 23:42:37
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Really aquaviel from what people have said sounds really cool now. At least for those of us without huge -interupt builds
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By Asura.Izilder 2010-06-22 03:56:57
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*** you SE.
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By Asura.Thayo 2010-07-03 00:47:03
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Asura.Jaybezz said:
Enmity generation for the following spells has been adjusted: Sleep / Sleep II / Dispel / Blind / Blind II / Bind hmmmm any views on the rdm tank being so 75 ; ;
Why would this effect you? You have NEVER tanked on RDM and/or have the skills to play RDM! lol
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-07-03 01:21:05
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Asura.Deadwing said:
They're confirmed 300 VE 1 CE which basically means worthless. Bar spells are a better option.


Edit: This doesnt mean red mage tanking is over with, you just have to be more resourceful now.
Honestly, yes it does. Even a RDM will blow through all their MP in short order if they have to rely exclusively on cure cheats for CE generation, which is basically all they're left with. Cure cheats are less than 1/4 as efficient as Dispel (was) for generating CE. If you can't cap CE efficiently, you're not a good endgame tank. It's dead. BLU nabs the top spot for non-engaged tanking on most mobs and PLD isn't too far behind; RDM is a distant third at best. Still a great holder, but if you tried to tank you'd find yourself losing hate early and often without melees /THF, and really... this is 2010. Let's move past that, shall we?
Asura.Deadwing said:
Rdm holding took a hit from the aquaveil nerf unfortunantly
If I understood the patch notes correctly it actually stands to gain quite a bit from that change except when supertanking because you no longer require a -interruption build provided you can maintain Aquaveil.
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By Odin.Lowblow 2010-07-03 01:28:04
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Yar imo the aqua is much better now.
Its a standard number of 100% un-interupts. Quite useful imo stacked with utsusemi ro anything of the sort.

I was tanking pld/rdm and when SS went down, aqua took all the hits and allowed me to get SS back up un interupted, then threw aqua back up to refresh it for full use agian. Very yummy
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