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 Leviathan.Bassclef
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By Leviathan.Bassclef 2010-12-08 23:03:11  
still aspire to get it? I finished Trial 1554 back in October, but my current real-life schedule conflicts with every Abyssea LS run times on Leviathan and the fact that every SAM and their mom on the server are more than likely looking forward to getting it as well.

So back to the matter at hand. I'm stuck between hoping that one day I'll be able to low-man triggers with my friends (when their PS2s can install the update and none of us have the real nice Atmas) and slowly inch my way to those 50 gems... or give up and just go for Hiradennotachi +1?

Crap, I forgot I've never done WoE, either. *sigh*
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By Quetzalcoatl.Moonsshadow 2010-12-08 23:06:41  
yes.
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By Asura.Trogdoor 2010-12-08 23:09:07  
You should quit SAM and level a DD job.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mrromance 2010-12-08 23:09:32  
if you guys got at least 2 bst's 90ish, and if you can work to get RR atma you could litterly duo cara, now fish if you got some blm and rdm u can duo cirien, me and friend did it and killed 2 within 20min
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-12-08 23:10:24  
Asura.Trogdoor said:
You should quit SAM and level a DD job.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2010-12-08 23:14:20  
Asura.Trogdoor said:
you should level a real dd
>drg only dd job



OP: Level WAR, get a Maschu +1/+2, use Razed Ruins and /SAM, destroy ***.
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By Artemicion 2010-12-08 23:15:36  
How about you play a class that you find fun and fulfilling?
You can always level something useful on the side if need be.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-12-08 23:16:54  
Pandemonium.Ironguy said:
Asura.Trogdoor said:
you should level a real dd
>drg only dd job



OP: Level WAR, get a Maschu +1/+2, use Razed Ruins and /SAM, destroy ***.

My entire perception of you has changed.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-12-08 23:17:25  
Artemicion said:
How about you play a class that you find fun and fulfilling?
You can always level something useful on the side if need be.

But SAM tears are delicious :(
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2010-12-08 23:18:23  
Shiva.Flionheart said:
My entire perception of you has changed.

wryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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By Artemicion 2010-12-08 23:19:16  
SAM isn't as far behind the curve as DRK is... are they? ._.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-12-08 23:19:47  
Artemicion said:
SAM isn't as far behind the curve as DRK is... are they? ._.
Nah, but it's still funny because most people can't accept SAM is no longer the ***.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2010-12-08 23:20:51  
Artemicion said:
SAM isn't as far behind the curve as DRK is... are they? ._.

with fudo, they're still xinfinitely better than drg/othershit, but compared to victorysmite-mnks and ukko-wars, it's pretty much a curb stomp
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By Artemicion 2010-12-08 23:20:57  
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Artemicion said:
SAM isn't as far behind the curve as DRK is... are they? ._.
Nah, but it's still funny because most people can't accept SAM is no longer the ***.

Shocking considering SAM has been SE's first born for the vast majority of FFXI's life. Now it's a red headed stepchild...
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-12-08 23:22:42  
So is WAR or MNK the better DD in your opinion Iron?
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2010-12-08 23:22:46  
Artemicion said:
Shocking considering SAM has been SE's first born for the vast majority of FFXI's life. Now it's a red headed stepchild...

you never played ffxi back in 03/04/early-05 huh lol


Shiva.Flionheart said:
So is WAR or MNK the better DD in your opinion Iron?

in all honesty as far as pure damage goes, war/sam ukonsavara > mnk/war(|sam?) verethragna, but mnk's got a huge leap over war on the matter of staying alive and whatnot (sup near-4k hp bar) ;z
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-12-08 23:23:23  
2h update made SAM into the beast iirc. And the release of the Hagun? I forget my XI history.
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By Artemicion 2010-12-08 23:24:01  
Pandemonium.Ironguy said:
Artemicion said:
Shocking considering SAM has been SE's first born for the vast majority of FFXI's life. Now it's a red headed stepchild...

you never played ffxi back in 03/04/early-05 huh lol

Beta tester actually.
Just haven't bothered keeping up with the times for the past 2 or so years.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2010-12-08 23:28:23  
Shiva.Flionheart said:
2h update made SAM into the beast iirc. And the release of the Hagun? I forget my XI history.

hagun was out for quite a long while before the adjustment, but past that, what really made samurai shine in situations where other dd's were viable (not-hnm) was



and then hagun for hnm, since it basically had an identical performance when compared to amano in the situation there, all while the jerb itself was the only melee-related one that could sustain its' usefulness in an hnm situation without being counter-productive

i miss solo-dd'ing salvage and not coming even remotely close to timing out, as well as parsing 25% of all damage np in einherjar, but oh well, time goes on =(
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-12-08 23:30:44  
Ah yeah, I remember Polearm SAMs destroying all DD in parse (outside of HNM)

Fun times watching penta's fly in bird camps too.

I wish there wasn't just one or two superior DD, but I suppose it's kinda impossible to avoid.
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By Artemicion 2010-12-08 23:31:29  
Crab Fantasy XI
Bird Fantasy XI
Abyssea Fantasy XI
What's next? :3
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-12-08 23:32:54  
I'm wondering myself seeing as there isn't an Abyssea for the next level up. Wouldn't surprise me if they go for another 3 mini expansions though. Would like to see them implement a new expansion, or just hurry up with fixing XIV so I can hop to that.
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By Artemicion 2010-12-08 23:34:10  
It isn't hard to recycle existing data to make it look new.
I foresee a continuous string of mini expansions as XI rides the gravy train into the sunset for however many years it lasts.

Though I do wish XIV to be as successful as it deserves to be.
Only SE and time will tell.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2010-12-08 23:34:44  
Shiva.Flionheart said:
I wish there wasn't just one or two superior DD, but I suppose it's kinda impossible to avoid.

even if you made the game to your exact qualifications, i'm sure there'd still be a clear-cut winning dd/nuker/healer/soloer/etc, so, there's nothing to be mad about if you're a sam, it's just how it goes :( lol

that, and zero to hero is MUCH more easier to attain in this day of age of ffxi's life, so it's not like a bawce such as anyone with an empyrean weapon couldn't just go and level mnk or war and get that empyrean too, as well as for their friends, loloolloollo

Artemicion said:
Crab Fantasy XI
Bird Fantasy XI
RED SKY Fantasy XI
What's next? :3

ftfy, brb aspirin
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-12-08 23:37:13  
Pandemonium.Ironguy said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
I wish there wasn't just one or two superior DD, but I suppose it's kinda impossible to avoid.

even if you made the game to your exact qualifications, i'm sure there'd still be a clear-cut winning dd/nuker/healer/soloer/etc, so, there's nothing to be mad about if you're a sam, it's just how it goes :( lol

that, and zero to hero is MUCH more easier to attain in this day of age of ffxi's life

Well I guess I wish all DD were closer in the tiers then if that makes sense. Not just one or two DD's epicly better than the rest :(
Artemicion said:
It isn't hard to recycle existing data to make it look new.
I foresee a continuous string of mini expansions as XI rides the gravy train into the sunset for however many years it lasts.

Though I do wish XIV to be as successful as it deserves to be.
Only SE and time will tell.
I'd like SE to really *** with everyone and release 2 new jobs and a new area akin to Whitegate for 75's.

And then make XIV and XI intermingle items and ***, so you beat an NM in XI or XIV and you get a piece of armour in the other game.

Also make one of them free to play.

I can dream.
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-12-08 23:40:37  
Pandemonium.Ironguy said:
with fudo, they're still xinfinitely better than drg

You're shitting me, right? RR + Drakesbane is beastly. Our OAT weapon is monstrous (Corsesca+2 is apparently 94 damage) and we don't need an inferior weapon to obtain a badass weapon skill. DRG can 5-hit with capped Haste, too.

Also, Double/TripleTP Auto-Criting, nigh enmity-less jumps are epic.

The only reason I can think of bringing a Fudo SAM over a RR DRG is that a PDT set is easier to build on SAM. That's all.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2010-12-08 23:41:54  
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Well I guess I wish all DD were closer in the tiers then if that makes sense. Not just one or two DD's epicly better than the rest :(

well, tbh, if they revamped sky/sea/etc (basically any non-razed ruin content), sam's back in the spotlight of importance once more, though war would remain too, since ukko's fury is just that monstrous, ontop of them getting quite a lot of improvement on the matter of -physical and -magic damage equipment
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2010-12-08 23:44:09  
Caitsith.Linear said:
Pandemonium.Ironguy said:
with fudo, they're still xinfinitely better than drg

You're shitting me, right?



gotta admit though, that healing breath ja without the need of a shitty sub is quite touchdown
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-12-09 00:01:10  
It really was. ***'s awesome.

I'm kinda surprised. I was expecting UMAD.jpg from you. :x
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-12-09 00:03:56  
Yea, Ryuni DRG is probably top 3 DDs atm hands down, just insane potential if you play aggressive..... RIP SAM and stuff
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