Post 90 Masamune & Fudo - Thoughts/Ideas.

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Post 90 Masamune & Fudo - Thoughts/Ideas.
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-12-09 17:28:40  
Just level WAR like I did.
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By Odin.Sinharvest 2010-12-09 17:35:41  
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PDT on SAM is utterely useless however i DO have a set. If you can't survive with Seigan/Thirdeye especially with the lolcounterattack from the Empy helmet... chances are you are going to die anyways lol. The only thing PDT ever did for me was allow 1-2 more hits before i died which i guess saves time? Buys time? IDK.
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I don't even ._.;

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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-12-09 17:38:49  
Why exactly do I care how much attack a SAM TP set has?
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By Cerberus.Krispy 2010-12-09 17:39:33  
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PDT on SAM is utterely useless however i DO have a set. If you can't survive with Seigan/Thirdeye especially with the lolcounterattack from the Empy helmet... chances are you are going to die anyways lol. The only thing PDT ever did for me was allow 1-2 more hits before i died which i guess saves time? Buys time? IDK.
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I don't even ._.;
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-12-09 17:39:37  
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Why exactly do I care how much attack a SAM TP set has?
Becuase it's fudo's main mod wtf -.- i dont even....
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-12-09 17:40:18  
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Why exactly do I care how much attack a SAM TP set has?
Becuase it's fudo's main mod wtf -.- i dont even....
You Fudo in TP gear?

And Fudo's mod is STR. There's no such thing as an attack mod. Attack influences pDIF, stats contribute to WSC.
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By Asura.Matzilla 2010-12-09 17:40:30  
YOU CAN TP IN MORE STP THAN NEEDED SO THAT YOU CAN WS IN LESS JESUS *** CHRIST WHAT IS WRONG IWHT YOU
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By Carbuncle.Roox 2010-12-09 17:41:02  
Siren.Clinpachi said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Why exactly do I care how much attack a SAM TP set has?
Becuase it's fudo's main mod wtf -.- i dont even....

I just know you can't use Fudo when you don't have TP.
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-12-09 17:41:24  
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YOU CAN TP IN MORE STP THAN NEEDED SO THAT YOU CAN WS IN LESS JESUS *** CHRIST WHAT IS WRONG IWHT YOU
calm down there rage quitter. That's not even what were talking about.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-12-09 17:42:05  
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Asura.Matzilla said:
YOU CAN TP IN MORE STP THAN NEEDED SO THAT YOU CAN WS IN LESS JESUS *** CHRIST WHAT IS WRONG IWHT YOU
calm down there rage quitter. That's not even what were talking about.
Actually, it is. You just haven't realized it yet.
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-12-09 17:42:46  
Trolls are lively tonight ^^/ I'll check back when people aren't raging about things not relevant.
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-12-09 17:43:16  
Carbuncle.Roox said:
Siren.Clinpachi said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Why exactly do I care how much attack a SAM TP set has?
Becuase it's fudo's main mod wtf -.- i dont even....

I just know you can't use Fudo when you don't have TP.
Not if you set your melee animations to Fudo Animations !!! See wut i'm gettin at here, the future of FFXI....
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-12-09 17:43:59  
itt: logic = trolling
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-12-09 17:44:28  
Siren.Clinpachi said:
Trolls are lively tonight ^^/ I'll check back when people aren't raging about things not relevant.
Matzilla is the only one who used caps lock, we are just simply pointing out your theoretical build is a waste of time and you don't want to hear it which in one sense, is understandable :(
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-12-09 17:45:12  
just a last post here for those who don't want to page 2:

ITT those who can't read:

"Also Maat's cap atma (now that we can choose 3) allows for a permanent +10 TP return, so we can still do RR VV on top of it. Even a regain makes it possible in Abyssea. This keeps 5 hit even during WS in technicality."

Solves 6 to 5 hit conversion WITHOUT luck. And again 1 single double attack or Conserve TP proc is all it takes even without it.

And i'm glad everyones PDT works perfect for them but with mine i still die pretty fast as my spellcast auto swaps it in after a certain % of my HP. Unless you all tank colibris or some ***still idk.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-12-09 17:46:36  
Bushin would be a lot more interesting if it gave other useful stats.
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By Asura.Matzilla 2010-12-09 17:52:49  
I thought you were smarter than this clin, reading this thread just really hurt inside I'm sorry
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-12-09 17:55:49  
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I thought you were smarter than this clin, reading this thread just really hurt inside I'm sorry
Same Mat, same :( it was like when i found out you were so sexy, and it was a love meant to be....
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-12-09 18:00:27  
Alright so I'm going to switch it up and play devils advocate. Someone post a proper 5-hit WS setup with Masamune I seem to be having trouble locating the one i saw earlier today... and i already pointed out the wrong ones above.

And also, i don't sheep my way around in this game and i always think outside the box. If people misunderstand or troll and think i'm "not smart" than more power to you.. i don't personally know you and you don't know me and opinions are a dime a dozen ^^

It's the same as people who saw Unkai Kote+2 and said trash... when in fact it beats everything when sekk is up... i was one of the people who first saw it and said "what does that enhancement do? Use less TP?".

So meh. Anyways Proper 5-hit WS masamune set if someone can please ^^
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By Odin.Sinharvest 2010-12-09 18:06:41  
There are plenty of 5 hit ws sets, you can adjust it depending on how much stp you tp in, also, unkai +2 is an enhance piece, so more than likely, you do not have to have them on during ws, but only when you use the ability. this whole thread makes my tummy hurt.
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-12-09 18:07:34  
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There are plenty of 5 hit ws sets, you can adjust it depending on how much stp you tp in, also, unkai +2 is an enhance piece, so more than likely, you do not have to have them on during ws, but only when you use the ability. this whole thread makes my tummy hurt.
It says in parenthesis next to it that heofoc mitts if its not up -.-
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By Lakshmi.Eyrhika 2010-12-09 18:08:17  
I love it when someone wants to be a unique snowflake.
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-12-09 18:10:15  
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I love it when someone wants to be a unique snowflake.
Says the person with a turban on still ^^
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-12-09 18:13:34  
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And also, i don't sheep my way around in this game and i always think outside the box. If people misunderstand or troll and think i'm "not smart" than more power to you.. i don't personally know you and you don't know me and opinions are a dime a dozen ^^
Have you ever noticed how this is the default argument for the people who can't back their ***up?

I thought Failure had some sets listed for Masa but they don't, give me a bit to put something together.
 
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-12-09 18:15:13  
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And also, i don't sheep my way around in this game and i always think outside the box. If people misunderstand or troll and think i'm "not smart" than more power to you.. i don't personally know you and you don't know me and opinions are a dime a dozen ^^
Have you ever noticed how this is the default argument for the people who can't back their ***up?

I thought Failure had some sets listed for Masa but they don't, give me a bit to put something together.
Sorry i'll try the RL card or videogame argument next time...
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-12-09 18:16:29  
Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Here's a TP/WS build for a 5 hit with a 437 GKT and full STP merits,

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Also, I didn't add the conserve TP from the new ws belts so I might be overshooting a bit.
Thanks for actually contributing i'll ffxicalc that up in a few. Still researching.
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-12-09 18:18:04  
I personally don't save TP for Sekkanoki unless I just zoned in or I'm not fighting and can Meditate.

Also what I think is the problem with them is that a lot of SAM's had hoped for Haste as a replacement for Dusk Gloves/+1, so to get a TP Bonus for a JA that is only active once every 5 minutes, if used at all is somewhat disappointing. Amirite?

Sorry but I can't be arsed to make item sets, but if you use Rose Strap and eat Carbonara then you can pretty much WS in whatever you want.
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-12-09 18:18:22  
Using the first set but keeping Unkai neck/Usu feet on lets you WS in only Rajas to maintain 5hit. And you can still cap Haste if /DRG. The -13attack is like nothing, and accuracy is capped w/ weapon and merits alone on a multitude of things.