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By Andylynn 2010-12-26 10:57:14  
currently using a crappy varangians, and have no luck with N-head for heca... what would be a proper sub for heca for a penta ws set until i can get one?:)
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-12-26 11:13:15  
I use Varangian Helm for Penta Thrust too, and I'm SAM with B+ skill and it doesn't effect me.

I'd say Varangian Helm > Heca.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Natlow 2010-12-26 11:14:53  
Perle Salade should last for you until you get a better piece. This is assuming Twilight Helm is also out of your reach.

Edit: Varangian is probably better though, if you have RR you should have more than enough accuracy to be able to compensate for wearing it.
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-12-26 11:21:31  
So STR+5 & ATK+7 beats STR+12 and ATK+24?

inb4 -20acc.

Pointing out the obvious here but DRG has A+ skill rating and accuracy job traits, the -20acc will not effect you. I have B+ rating, 4 merits and 0 accuracy traits and my accuracy is just fine.

Edit: If they have RR they should definitely be using Drakes, if they don't have the WS then it should be top priority.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Natlow 2010-12-26 11:24:53  
Nah, I just didn't really read the OP, and though he was just asking for a general starter WS piece. Simply a lack of paying attention lol, my bad.
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By Andylynn 2010-12-26 12:03:31  
RR and full merits here. was getting made fun of for using varangian so i wasnt sure Q_Q. drakes is my top priority right now, on floor 15 of nyzul; trying to cut it down as much as possible for when i get the lance.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-12-26 12:12:36  
I'd put heca at least +1 above viking helm on penta. Would be close anyways. Same str but 6 dex to 24 attack... especially with that pdif note on it on wiki... wonder if that is true.


Of course outside of abyssea where you aren't capping acc as easy or capping Ddex it would be good for drakesbane too.

Btw what server are you on I need to climb too
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By Andylynn 2010-12-26 12:15:22  
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-12-26 12:17:39  
lolasura
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By Andylynn 2010-12-26 12:36:44  
lolbahamut? asura could kick a bahamuts butt anyday!

for older MMO players, asura strike ftw >_>
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By Cerberus.Starr 2010-12-26 12:39:30  
Varangian would be best for Penta but Heca/+1 still best for Drakes.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2010-12-26 12:43:03  
Cerberus.Starr said:
Varangian would be best for Penta but Heca/+1 still best for Drakes.

Idk dude, if you can cap acc with viking-helm you'r probably capped on ddex aswell.

I have like +90 dex just from RR + cruor buffs (without the other zone-boosts)
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By Cerberus.Starr 2010-12-26 12:45:59  
I was thinking outside Abyssea lol, my DRG mind set is still back there cus I have neglected it
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2010-12-26 12:47:39  
Yeah :p
When I think about it, penta have a DEX mod, drakes dont does it?
 
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By Quetzalcoatl.Natlow 2010-12-26 13:23:21  
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Yeah :p
When I think about it, penta have a DEX mod, drakes dont does it?

It doesn't have a DEX mod, but because it's a crit WS, the DEX helps.
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By Leviathan.Ejin 2010-12-26 14:23:05  
If you're really set on not using V.helm, go for the Moogle KupoD'etat head piece. But from what others say, for the best results use V.helm. The -ACC doesn't seem to effect me much either.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2010-12-26 14:42:52  
Quetzalcoatl.Natlow said:
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Yeah :p
When I think about it, penta have a DEX mod, drakes dont does it?

It doesn't have a DEX mod, but because it's a crit WS, the DEX helps.

The DEX does nothing if you allready cap ddex ;)
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By Gilgamesh.Hatfield 2010-12-26 14:55:04  
The mods for penta are low from what i remember, especially compared to the drakes mods. As much as this may not be what you want to hear, personally id not worry about penta and do whatever it takes to unlock drakes. Even if your nowhere near nyzul 100, its still not bad compared to say, a magian trial where you're doing 3k WS points @ 1/ws, certainly not if you bring a friend to make light/darkness SC. Basically no matter how you gear you wont be hitting 4k+++ pentas. Also af3+2 head might not be a horrible penta piece.
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By Andylynn 2010-12-27 11:11:53  
Gilgamesh.Hatfield said:
The mods for penta are low from what i remember, especially compared to the drakes mods. As much as this may not be what you want to hear, personally id not worry about penta and do whatever it takes to unlock drakes. Even if your nowhere near nyzul 100, its still not bad compared to say, a magian trial where you're doing 3k WS points @ 1/ws, certainly not if you bring a friend to make light/darkness SC. Basically no matter how you gear you wont be hitting 4k+++ pentas. Also af3+2 head might not be a horrible penta piece.
its not so much that its something i dont wanna hear, its more of a (not to be rude) captain obvious kind of thing. i -know- i need drakes, but nyzul seems nonexistant at this point in time; figured id work one what i have at face value currently rather than focus on something kind of outta grasp at the moment.

thanks for the advice people. i got what i needed now
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-12-27 11:13:55  
When I can get people interested I trio nyzle... hell I could probalby duo as long as I use my alt to enter. Blu is even more of a powerhouse in there than it used to be
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2010-12-27 11:35:22  
Bahamut.Dasva said:
When I can get people interested I trio nyzle... hell I could probalby duo as long as I use my alt to enter. Blu is even more of a powerhouse in there than it used to be
Hit me up sometime I'll go with you..im bored enough and it might be fun to do a 3 man climb.
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By Bahamut.Xslayrx 2010-12-27 11:43:18  
Bahamut.Zorander said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
When I can get people interested I trio nyzle... hell I could probalby duo as long as I use my alt to enter. Blu is even more of a powerhouse in there than it used to be
Hit me up sometime I'll go with you..im bored enough and it might be fun to do a 3 man climb.
I need Nyzul climb!!! D:
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2010-12-27 11:49:06  
Bahamut.Xslayrx said:
Bahamut.Zorander said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
When I can get people interested I trio nyzle... hell I could probalby duo as long as I use my alt to enter. Blu is even more of a powerhouse in there than it used to be
Hit me up sometime I'll go with you..im bored enough and it might be fun to do a 3 man climb.
I need Nyzul climb!!! D:
You would nub.