Ryunohige Lvl 90

I'm almost willing to guarantee it'll add at least 5% to Dragoons overall damage, if not ~10%.

Well, I cannot figure out exactly where I posted it, but I think at least a few of the Atma on wiki that are listed as STP+20 are actually STP+15. I tested them and updated it at one point, but I think someone reverted it.

If you can give me an average Wyvern breath and average wyvern swing from a parse, I'll just add it straight in. Their delay is, iirc, 2.1 seconds?

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holy ***rab i cant for some reason
u have skyp?

well that really sucks but ur insight on a 3/4 hit would be nice when u are done with w/e u doing thnx in advance

DAMN RAEN I WORKED SO HARD FOR OAT.

Well, this one isn't really possible to get soo :p

it is i was working on conqueror b4 lvl 80 update would have taken me 1 year + but totaly worth it but meh now i gues

I don't think there's a large enough liquid Alexandrite supply on any server to finish this right now. In the future? Maybe. Perhaps I'm making unfair assumptions.

And this thread is a big reason I believe WAR needs a nerf back to the stone age!

HAVENT YOU GUYS HEARD FFXI IS DEAD MOVE ON

stop saying that i'll cry

:( I'm sorrrry but for overall balance, WAR being reduced in power significantly would be best.

I find it funny that the best weapon in the game will be.....
a mythic weapon..... >_>

i have seen alot of people low man salvage for the prices r right and they think there will be an upgrade to it soon idk

I haven't parsed abyssea at all. But I do have some stuff from like, level 80 outside of abyssea. Never mind. That was before my PC went WTFBOOM.

nah will prob be relic from what se has posted about them a while ago

Well.... maybe Amano will get close, eventually.....
The thoughts of Ryuno having +25% drakes dmg at level 99 are scary.
edit: that is assuming ryuno gets +5% ws dmg at 95 and an extra 5% @ 99.

dam from what people posting relics now getting +25% dmg it would be cool to see what they all are @99
somthing like relic = mythic > emp
sounds fair to me from the time it takes for an emp not that i have one. cause i just brew my one glavoid pop for the shells after i get the ki's

Ryunohige only gives Wyvern bonuses through Aftermath, right?

Also, I'm going to proclaim DRG the qualified winner. Wyverns would only have to do 269 damage in 3 attack rounds and a breath to outdamage Ukon. I think they'd have 40% OAT, 5% DA, and 15% TA (they get Atma, right?) for 1.67 swings per round, so 3 rounds is 5 swings.

Yeah, they get Atma and Aftermath bonus'.

If only you could haste them. :<

Outside Abyssea is a rough thing to think about, because dDEX matters so much more and WAR has a harder time getting a 5-hit. They potentially have to sacrifice RCBs for Carbonara.

Empathy :3

So true :(
This amuses and pleases me.

Still digging through all the old mythic posts on BG but Kirschy's initial Liberator testing got 46.5% OAT over 284 attack rounds. Low sample size, but it suggests that procrate is likely higher than 40% and could be 50%.

I think she did a lot more tests. Every time she quotes it recently it has been 40%. She had a short posting burst about it after finishing it.

I really think Dragoon will win outside Abyssea, just playing around with my spreadsheet. WAR either has to drop down to a 6-hit or give up RCBs for Carbonara, which will really hurt it if it doesn't have attack buffers.

WS damage would probably drop significantly with both cases though, and the 100TP crit rate boost the WSs get will really matter (especially if it's different).

It's a hard one to call, but my money is on DRG.

i just assumed that it was ~45% like everything else that's OAT

was already decided that Mnk / Nin outdue War in the first place yea? all the fighting for 3rd place go go!

Pretty sure not.

Ukon WAR is probably the top inside Abyssea. Outside Abyssea the major damage enhancements people lose are Attack, STR, crit rate, crit damage boost, and multi-attacks, all additive traits that WAR already had plentifully. If WAR wins in Abyssea, they are generally more likely to win outside Abyssea except in weird cases like against an OAT weapon (basically just Ryunohige).

*** yeah, Ryunohige!

If she's saying 40% now I'm willing to take that at face value.
The thing is, that's not true. Magian OAT are 40%, Joyeuse was widely speculated to have a proc rate that wasn't 45% due to flaws in the initial parsing, and Jailer weapons (which really are in their own subset since they can proc on the same round as DA) have a procrate that is at least 50% and iirc I've heard higher values thrown around (~55%).

WAR is probably either best or second (there's some debate concerning SAM's place in the hierarchy) outside Abyssea in any situation where it can fulltime Hasso. If you can't Hasso then obviously it loses a lot of ground and if you have to /NIN for whatever reason things obviously get even worse. MNK will outdo NIN, as NIN actually loses quite a bit in leaving Abyssea (*** AGI mod on Hi...). Non-Mythic DRG is probably somewhere in the top 5 as well. How practical all this information is remains to be seen since MP will no longer be unlimited and the age of events with many players and fodder mobs (non-lowman Dyna/Ein for example) seems to be over.

lol. that just made me think of something.
wtf are we going to do when mages forget how to conserve MP. abyssea has spoiled us, and probably ruined a great deal of players' skill. (Obviously many players now have raised jobs strictly in abyssea and won't know what they're doing in the first place)
personally on BLU i don't know what to do with all the MP inside abyssea. but i try to avoid the place as much as possible. some of you never leave lol.