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 Ifrit.Herc
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By Ifrit.Herc 2011-07-18 14:46:06  
I know there are some threads out there that suggest atma, but they are very vague from what i am finding, if any SAM could guide me in the right direction, id like to know what are the three optimal atma to use, currently i just use RR VV and Apoc....should i be substituting RR out for Harvester or SB perhaps? And i will be trying to get Fudo eventually, do my atmas change when i acquire this WS. Thx in advance for ure help.
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2011-07-18 14:53:21  
it depends if you are going for DoT dmg / crits as well as ws. what you use is certainly not a bad setup.

when im on sam i generally use a ws dmg atma setup something like

VV/Harvester/SB

but it all depends on what you are doing. masamune ODD crits are no joke (1k+) so it just depends what you like to do better.

(as sam is not currently the best in anything inside abyssea, just play how you would like to, since if you are coming sam you are more than likely just an extra anyways.)
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By Remora.Dodu 2011-07-18 15:10:44  
Don't drop RR at any time. ^Wrong.
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 Pandemonium.Ironguy
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-07-18 15:17:51  
atmas for samurai inside abyssea: war/sam
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By Cerberus.Cruxus 2011-07-18 15:43:50  
Typically, when I go SAM for abyssea, I pull basically same atmas as you stated: RR/VV/Apoc

The combo seems good for DoT and obviously crit dmg is very nice to see. Since I got a Masa, I played around with a few different combo's to see which would maximize dmg for ws's. So far best I've seen with combo's I've used: SA/VV/RR.

I've also tried AaO/Apoc/RR just for the 25% triple attack and attack increase which TP is obviously gained quite fast. Sadly since Masa has become my GKT I've never given any thought of using any other WS, so can't really comment on anything for other WS's...
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By Odin.Zibo 2011-07-18 17:20:46  
A&O,RR,Apoc, and jump servers more bro.
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By Bismarck.Helel 2011-07-18 17:51:47  
lol what the hell? Why is it every time I open up a sam post ironguy is here posting about how awesome war is? Atmas: play whatever job you enjoy. War is boring as ***in my opinion.
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By Ifrit.Herc 2011-07-18 18:53:54  
Odin.Zibo said:
A&O,RR,Apoc, and jump servers more bro.

Back to my bro Timdogg....you wouldnt know him friend for 6 years, but on the atma thing....i use 2/3 so drop VV for A%O huh?
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-07-18 19:00:25  
Bismarck.Helel said:
Atmas: play whatever job you enjoy.





ps: lv85 ukon, didn't even charge restraint there either Q_Q

by all means though, have fun doing 2.1k coronachs with your annihilator like they're really good in 2011 or something along those lines
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2011-07-19 01:12:27  
lolaskarbody
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 Pandemonium.Ironguy
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-07-19 01:16:18  
got a better suggestion aside from armada hauberk with at least 6 store tp and 2 da
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By Bismarck.Aerison 2011-07-19 01:17:04  
Pandemonium.Ironguy said:
Bismarck.Helel said:
Atmas: play whatever job you enjoy.





ps: lv85 ukon, didn't even charge restraint there either Q_Q

by all means though, have fun doing 2.1k coronachs with your annihilator like they're really good in 2011 or something along those lines



lol'd at the pineapple tho
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 Pandemonium.Ironguy
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-07-19 01:20:43  
not flashing self e-peen, i'm flashing job e-peen, or at least that's what people refer to usefulness by in a mmo



level war ok? ok
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2011-07-19 01:21:59  
Pandemonium.Ironguy said:
got a better suggestion aside from armada hauberk with at least 6 store tp and 2 da

uh yeah. +2 war body.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-07-19 01:26:45  
go on
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-07-19 01:55:12  
My god seriously.. I have to agree, Ironguy plz... EVERY damn Sam thread you mention war. Not everybody likes warrior, and people do like sam, so they ask about the job they like. This also coming from an Amano sam.... Seriously man, just plz stop
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 Pandemonium.Ironguy
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-07-19 02:09:28  
i find it very, very hard to understand how anyone could ever possibly like samurai, but not warrior

one swings a katana that does mediocre damage, while the other swings a hammer that (amusingly enough,) sports a delay nearly identical to that of the weapon that made samurai clearly the best melee job back before abyssea

i get it, it's your $12.95, but honestly, do yourself (and others) a favor and swap the .dats on widowmaker/ukonvasara and raging rush/ukko's fury to hagun/amanomurakumo and gekko/kaiten respectively

i will be sincerely surprised if you truly end up noticing a difference between the two visually and playstyle-wise
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By Leviathan.Snakeslice 2011-07-19 02:09:38  
Pandemonium.Ironguy said:
not flashing self e-peen, i'm flashing job e-peen, or at least that's what people refer to usefulness by in a mmo



level war ok? ok

Don't need an emp to show the pride.
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 Pandemonium.Ironguy
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-07-19 02:11:20  
meanwhile your white damage and tp accumulation rate take giant hits each by not using razed ruins and apocalypse



it's worth it though, of course
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By Leviathan.Snakeslice 2011-07-19 02:15:35  
Who needs it when you ws every 2 hits? I much rather focus on what sam is known for, WS!!!
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-07-19 02:15:50  
lol
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By Leviathan.Snakeslice 2011-07-19 02:19:08  
Sure we could all jump on the bandwagon but I don't wanna put wars out of business.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-07-19 02:27:24  
a bandwagon in ffxi, defined, is someone who jumps on a job immediately after seeing its' potential in one set scenario (see: not all), gears it incorrectly and then assumes it's almighty, always, regardless

primary example, bandwagon samurai back before abyssea were visible, plain as day by using /nin 24.7, tp'ing in askar korazin and last but not least, not knowing of and/or how to use a polearm

judging upon some quick evidence, i'm positive you fit into the category described above quite nicely
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 Leviathan.Snakeslice
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By Leviathan.Snakeslice 2011-07-19 02:31:24  
I'm sorry but I picked Sam long before I began playing this game. Has always been my favorite job in FF and I knew this would be my first job when my friends and I began playing it.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-07-19 02:32:57  
and that's meant to move this topic forward, how exactly
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By Leviathan.Snakeslice 2011-07-19 02:35:29  
I'm just stating that your accusation is false.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-07-19 02:36:33  
Pandemonium.Ironguy said:
a bandwagon in ffxi, defined, is someone who jumps on a job immediately after seeing its' potential in one set scenario (see: not all), gears it incorrectly and then assumes it's almighty, always, regardless

primary example, bandwagon samurai back before abyssea were visible, plain as day by using /nin 24.7, tp'ing in askar korazin and last but not least, not knowing of and/or how to use a polearm

judging upon some quick evidence, i'm positive you fit into the category described above quite nicely
real men wore domaru.
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 Pandemonium.Ironguy
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-07-19 02:39:16  
Leviathan.Snakeslice said:
i like the job a lot, that's proof enough that i knew how to gear it unlike my mnk/drg setup that doesn't even cap haste

my accusation senses are tingling


Ramuh.Austar said:
real men wore domaru.

i did too back when i was still pc-accessless many years ago, stuck on my lol360 with no reliable source of correct and valuable input/information :(:(:(
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