Samurai Tanking

Am I the only one who chuckled at the claim that only WAR and PLD will ever cause problems for a SAM hellbent on tanking?

A WHM with significant effort into their physical damage output will cap hate faster than a SAM will.

Wolfshadow,
in case you haven't noticed, sometimes I do not care about Users' feelings on an internet forum. If you want warm fuzzies, maybe try the My Little Pony thread. I said I read a chunk of the thread, and there was indeed plenty of garbage posted in the first dozen replies to this OP. If you disagree, fine, but I stand by my comments.

You can "lolwat?" at Third Eye Merits if you want; I'll just "lolwat?" at you in retort. Obviously, if you're playing SAM in its traditional DPS role, Meditate recast merits are the superior choice. However, since we're talking about SAM tanking in this thread, I can tell you based on rational thought and practical experience on SAM that Third Eye merits ARE *definitely* a boon when SAM tanking.

Using SAM as a DPS job and using SAM as a tanking job are two very different tasks, and they require different thinking, and different tactics. Seems to me that's the advice the OP was asking for.

If you want to tank on SAM, you have to balance damage generation with mitigation of damage potentially received.
If you're subbing DNC or NIN, you will not generate adequate damage or enmity to tank.
If you're full-timing Hasso, you will not mitigate adequate damage potentially received to tank.

Your absolute best bet is to sub WAR (or MNK, maybe) and use Seigan/Third Eye as your backbone, maintaining Haste/STP gear mainly, WS and Skillchain frequently, and use -PDT% gear/Defender/Dodge/Blade Bash only for your "oh sh*t!" moments.

No, but I did chuckle at your claim about WHM capping hate faster than a SAM. Troll on.

SAM is good as a tank in that it can be tactical based on what the boss does. Chloris for example, hundred fists -> pop seigan and watch the counters go. tactical non-Seigan Third Eye as already mentioned. Blade Bash on epic casts/ja's.

You have to be beyond drunk to make a difference between SAM acting as a DD and as a tank.

Or maybe you are part of this new wave that rather have their DDs suicide the whole game and having 2 sets: one for their Empyrean WS, other being the exact same set but with Twilight helm/mail.

And you're still bad at it.

And you're still bad at it.

And you're still bad at it.

Okay, 88MNK/38WAR.

Leave me alone, fool.

And you're still bad at it.

Okay, 88MNK/38WAR.

Leave me alone, fool.

looks like you're worse lol

shall be fixed in short order

since we were duoing xp to burn up his monk

i really wasn't too overly hurt by his subjob, as we'll be taking care of that next

so be sure to get in as much crowing as possible for the few hours it looks like that

No, but I did chuckle at your claim about WHM capping hate faster than a SAM. Troll on.

It's even more funny because he's serious.

I employ the same tactics while DDing on mnk as I do tanking.

Edit: What's with them eyes Krizz o.o

You'd have to be beyond dense to be unable to comprehend that one should indeed employ different tactics when using SAM as a DPS job vs. a tanking job.



I have absolutely no frakin' idea what you are talking about, but rest assured that I'm not part of any "new waves" in FFXI. I've been playing FFXI regularly since 2004.