Empathy Brew?

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empathy brew?
 Leviathan.Cycerath
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By Leviathan.Cycerath 2011-07-21 04:54:19  
can you give transcendancy to your wyvern pets? i got empathy at 3 atm, and it says you can give random buffs to them, so if i didn't have pro/shell on, only buffs would be ascetic tonic and the brew.
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By Siren.Inuyushi 2011-07-21 05:47:35  
I don't know if it's possible or not, but that would be sweet. See a totally awesome Elemental Breathe. I would say just try it next time you get a shot.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-07-21 05:53:52  
why would you want to do that?
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By Siren.Inuyushi 2011-07-21 06:06:27  
Ramuh.Austar said:
why would you want to do that?

Cause it would be awesome. Just incase you dont fully understand Empathy, it copies your buffs over to your Wyvern. It doesn't take them
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2011-07-21 06:15:25  
Does Ele Breath activate on Ele WSs?
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By Lakshmi.Razius 2011-07-21 06:59:06  
I would say it wouldnt as Brews do not carry over to Avatars or Jug pets, nice thought though!!

Will have to try it myself if i ever brew on DRG XD
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-07-21 07:05:15  
Lakshmi.Razius said:
I would say it wouldnt as Brews do not carry over to Avatars or Jug pets, nice thought though!!

Will have to try it myself if i ever brew on DRG XD
Neither does any other buff you have, so how is that a similar situation at all?
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By Lakshmi.Razius 2011-07-21 07:09:35  
Kinda my point >.> lol

Point is pets generally do not have any effect when its master has a brew, so I very much doubt Trancendancy carries over via the JA. Only the self casted/PC casted and activated enhancements.
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By Siren.Inuyushi 2011-07-21 07:24:06  
SMN/BST/PUP don't have an ability that copies buffs over, so I don't see any point to what you're saying. It will be very interesting to give a try. What your wyvern does on WS depends on your subjob. So if you are a DD sub it will do an Elemental breathe. If you are mage sub it wont. But there is always the pet command to make it to it every 1 min.
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By Bismarck.Nevill 2011-07-21 07:26:20  
Do the buffs fro, like ascetic's or champions tonic carry over?

That should be fairly easy to to test, and maybe related.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-07-21 07:26:53  
Empathy doesn't work on cruor buffs or atma (afaik) so I don't see why it would work with a brew. :\
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By Lakshmi.Razius 2011-07-21 07:29:27  
I realise BST and SMN have no empathy like ability but I am saying that Brew generally does not effect a pet, and thus would not be transferred with empathy.

Would be fantastic though!!
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-07-21 07:31:29  
Lakshmi.Razius said:
Valefor.Prothescar said:
Empathy doesn't work on cruor buffs or atma (afaik) so I don't see why it would work with a brew. :\

^
Pets already get atma bonuses as far as I know.
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By Lakshmi.Razius 2011-07-21 07:33:20  
Yea I had to reread that, unfort thats the closest we are going to get is Atma based buffs ^^;
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-07-21 07:34:07  
Valefor.Prothescar said:
Empathy doesn't work on cruor buffs or atma (afaik) so I don't see why it would work with a brew. :\

I frequently use HP+ atma on myself to increase my wyverns cure breath numbers. You can't give your wyvern transcendency though. I have multiple merits into empathy and it hasn't passed over. There's actually a pretty extensive list of things that they lock from being passed to your wyvern. Some of them seem like they should based on other things you can give it so I wouldn't try to "deduce" it from other things you can and cannot empathy.
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2011-07-21 07:40:48  
Lakshmi.Razius said:
I realise BST and SMN have no empathy like ability but I am saying that Brew generally does not effect a pet, and thus would not be transferred with empathy.

Would be fantastic though!!
So there are rare occasions where it does? hurrdurr.

You're saying that because it's not transfered already when used, that it couldn't possibly transfer with use of the JA. Now how does that make any sense at all?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-07-21 07:40:59  
Okie I wasn't 100% sure on atma, but I know you can't copy over cruor buffs.
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By Lakshmi.Razius 2011-07-21 07:46:26  
My god shoot me down for the use of the word generally.
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2011-07-21 07:59:06  
Lakshmi.Razius said:
My god shoot me down for the use of the word generally.
Well not only that, but your logic is silly.
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By Carbuncle.Shadowreapper 2011-08-31 08:43:23  
I'm on the server test, drg95 and such, and I decided to test out empathy brew.
Everyone assumed it wasn't possible to copy it, I just tryed myself. Being sure > assuming.
And!.. off course not, I used brew and spirit link, but the wyvern never got the buff sadly.

Also, i was hitting 15k ish with raiden/thunder thrust. (On pugils in grauberg)