Kirin Osode Is It Still Bad ?

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kirin osode is it still bad ?
 Phoenix.Gaiarorshack
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By Phoenix.Gaiarorshack 2011-10-21 06:59:22  
i just saw someoen selling kirin osode for 150k

is it really that uselees today even with augments compared to the price on grim curias and others ?

with da 2% and crit hit rate +3% augments how would it stack up as a ukon ws piece ?
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By Leviathan.Dodu 2011-10-21 07:02:40  
Regen body, that's it
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By Leviathan.Alkalinejoe 2011-10-21 07:05:21  
I think with a crit rate augument it would beat out Loki's for Jishnu's Radiance but otherwise I can't think of any other reason.
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By Nevill 2011-10-21 07:06:42  
I use it for ninja nuking/enfeebling. I have da and crit dmg on it. I also use it when I have GKT out for proccing, but meh.

It's not totally useless.
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By Siren.Seiri 2011-10-21 07:07:32  
It has some utility on rng outside abyssea, and on several other jobs, but as things stand even with the top augments it's horrendously situational, and usually invent -1.

Edit: For war specifically, if you can get crit rate +3%, the max aug from the byakko route (suzaku is double attack and crit DAMAGE, not rate btw) with any other offensive augment, osode will be a zahaks mail +1 for berserk up ukkos set, and for similar WSs.
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By Phoenix.Gaiarorshack 2011-10-22 02:28:32  
zahaks mail +1does not sound that bad to ne

and it beeign crit dmg is just nice for uko better than crit hit since war pretty much have a 100% critrate inside aby with bloodrage going on

uko WS 30%
RR atma 30%
Ddex 20%
rancor collar 5%
rav. mask 3%

that alone is 88%

blood rage +20 puts its above 100% crit so critdamge for bloodrage up im thinking..
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2011-10-22 02:31:37  
2 regen 5% pdt body :)
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By Asura.Leonlionheart 2011-10-22 03:00:55  
Phoenix.Gaiarorshack said: »
zahaks mail +1does not sound that bad to ne

and it beeign crit dmg is just nice for uko better than crit hit since war pretty much have a 100% critrate inside aby with bloodrage going on

uko WS 30%
RR atma 30%
Ddex 20%
rancor collar 5%
rav. mask 3%

that alone is 88%

blood rage +20 puts its above 100% crit so critdamge for bloodrage up im thinking..

30% RR
30% SS
20% BR
10% Feet
4% Hands

94% Crit DMG+ can cap with Osode and Cavaros... but considering Atheling parses better than Cavaros, I think the same can be said for grim/+1 out parsing osode inside aby.

Outside probably Zahak's or Twilight if Accuracy sucks.
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By Phoenix.Gaiarorshack 2011-10-22 03:30:27  
TY

what are the 4% critdamge from hands ?

seems i just have to shell out for grim then

or get my *** together and start doing einhejar
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-10-22 03:35:20  
BRD TP?
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By Asura.Leonlionheart 2011-10-22 03:40:38  
HQ N hands can get 4% crit damage aug.

Makes them pretty much the best WS hands you can dream of on WAR
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2011-10-22 03:41:01  
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: »
BRD TP?
YES
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By Shiva.Msthief 2011-10-22 04:34:30  
Yes, I use it on bard. In my experience, the +3 dual wield is incredibly rare... I've settled on +2 DW, +2 crit rate and use it as both a tp and ws piece.

There really isn't anything that compares as a tp piece, but relic +1 might be better for evisceration.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-10-22 04:54:14  
Shiva.Msthief said: »
Yes, I use it on bard. In my experience, the +3 dual wield is incredibly rare... I've settled on +2 DW, +2 crit rate and use it as both a tp and ws piece.

There really isn't anything that compares as a tp piece, but relic +1 might be better for evisceration.

+2DW/+2Crit/Atk+7 is what i have.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2011-10-22 05:20:43  
it's still a good ninjutsu piece too

Edit: Then I saw this is a war thread ._.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-10-22 05:46:01  
You don't cast ninjutsu on your WAR?
Gimp.
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By Cerberus.Yannie 2011-10-22 16:55:20  
I think the best use is still crit dmg+3%/da+2/att+7
Inside Abyssea crit rate
30% RR
30% Ukko
20% dDEX
5% merit
5% rancor collar
3% claymore grip
3% af3+2 mask
4% HQ N.Legs

Looking at 100% crit rate without Zahak's. So K.Osode becomes your best berserk up body piece.
Outside Abyssea, the crit rate on Zahak's should win.