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Mythic Revisited
 Fenrir.Skarwind
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-11-06 02:18:10  


The loss of ODD is terrible, As is losing the damage Ukko's can pump out. Losing a Powerful Crit WS :S

Oa2-3 Aftermath (Been told this even procs on weaponskills..? 5-6 Hit King's Justice/RR before even considering DA/TA)
Augment's Berserk 4= +36~45% Total Attack with Berserk up? (Uncomfirmed if it is 5% per tier.)
Weaponskill Damage+15% (Thanks good to know the exact number) Also throwing Restraint on top of that.

I'm very curious on the specifics because even Liberator is starting to shine though. I'm still very biased about Bravura though. Is there any saving Conq.?

At least you can pop the aftermath and use Raging Rush in Aby.

For you math savy how might this compare to Ukon 95.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-11-06 02:19:38  
Input 19710 in your set as your weapon to get the 95 version there.

Pet peeve to look at, sorry. I'll look in to your question in the morning if people don't get to it.

Mythics get a +15% increase to ws damage.

And berserk probably gets a 2-5% increase to berserk per tier past the first. Better off to assume 36% berserk. Could even possibly be 1%, but I hope not.

And OA2-3 procs on ws as well.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-11-06 02:20:54  
Bahamut.Serj said: »
Input 19710 in your set as your weapon to get the 95 version there.

Pet peeve to look at, sorry. I'll look in to your question in the morning if people don't get to it.

Sorry about the item number, Half asleep here getting ready for bed as well.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-11-06 02:30:41  
Aftermath is going to heavily devalue double attack. In that light, I feel like there have to be at least 20 better earring options over Ravager's.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-11-06 02:33:44  
Centaurus Earring or a Regain Moonshade are about it honestly.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-11-06 02:36:08  
Fenrir.Skarwind said: »
Centaurus Earring or a Regain Moonshade are about it honestly.

Use one of those then during am3. 3 atk/0.2% double attack is pretty lol.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-11-06 02:37:41  
Haven't checked tp, but if possible swap it to attila's and change the body to stp 6 armadaberk. Saving moonshade for tp bonus for KJ and whatever other ws for other jobs you have.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-11-06 03:57:56  
I think Conqueror could only shine as a 2h zerg weapon for the time being due to the Oa2-3 procing on both tp and ws.

Other than that, althouh I haven't mathed anything up, I find myself skeptical in believing even a KJ spam could beat a "slower" but much more potent UF with ODD.

The comparison with Liberator isn't too right imo (just a small remark), because the good Scythes have different dmg outputs thanir GA counterparts (no crit WS). If it weren't for Liberator's AM and +WS DMG, Insurgency would be a terrible WS.
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By Bismarck.Altar 2011-11-06 09:46:52  
Hm. Question, is the 15% bonus on WS for any WS, or just the Mythic WS?
I always assumed it was only for KJ
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By Asura.Solara 2011-11-06 09:59:53  
Bismarck.Altar said: »
Hm. Question, is the 15% bonus on WS for any WS, or just the Mythic WS?
I always assumed it was only for KJ

Just the Mythic ws.
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By Sylph.Aleaucent 2011-11-06 10:29:57  
I also recall reading on this that the OA2-3 is similar to that of the sea weapons, and can proc on top of DA, making it 3-4
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-11-06 11:15:03  
Sylph.Aleaucent said: »
I also recall reading on this that the OA2-3 is similar to that of the sea weapons, and can proc on top of DA, making it 3-4

This is not the case, but it can proc once per WS.