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By Bdice 2011-12-14 20:49:49  
**UPDATE**
After lots of partying here are the conclusions.
(I Am Now 5/5 Entropy And 4/5 Resolution)

Entropy is an outstanding weaponskill, Visually and performance wise.
The damage @ 5/5 Beats Guillotine 100% of the time PLUS Drains MP.
Its like an anti-Catastrophe, if you have an Apoc, Your Life Is gunna be beautiful now. lol. (Drain HP And Drain MP In Weaponskills)
THIS WEAPON SKILL IS FOR ALL SERIOUS DRK!!!!


^^ This was Gearset For Entropy. (Obv could be better but this is what i had for testing purposes) Just if you were wondering.
i WILL be making a real set for this WS now.

Resolution Is the best of Non-Relic Weaponskills, 80% of the time Torcleaver beat it (Not Including the aftermath) Its still a very good weaponskill and comes recommended by me


^^ This Was Torcleaver Gear, For those wondering.
Obviously not top of the line. But not bad. Belt Gorget Boots Were change to STR+ For Resolution Tests.

Things to note here...

-The Weapon Skills Seem to have a HUGE IMPACT once you hit 4/5 - 5/5
-Also the Stat Mods are huge here, Keep that in mind.
-Testing was done Within Abyssea Both with and without atmas.
-Entropy Numbers Did Beat Out Resolution 100% of the time.

Final Conclusion. (Personal)
Torcleaver (Not Including Aftermath)> Resolution > Other GS WS.

Entropy (To Add: MP Convert is WIN) > Guillotine/Insurgency > Other Scythe WS.

Entropy > Resolution

-Bdice Current Server: (Cerberus)




(Original Post)

So whats the word on this?
Im curious as to if Resolution > Torcleaver?
How good Really is Entropy?
I see there are STR Mods for Resolution and INT for entropy.
Adds the next question. Resolution Or Entropy? Which Is greater?

Im very busy Between School and Music, so personal testing is not going to be done for some time, would love to hear what people have seen, or even heard.
LEMME KNOW!!!

-Bdice #Daily16
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By Cerberus.Bdice 2011-12-14 20:51:34  
Im curious as hell.
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By Bismarck.Helel 2011-12-14 20:54:05  
Entropy sucks. Resolution is just as good, if not slightly better than torcleaver based on BG info (on high defense mobs).
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By Cerberus.Bdice 2011-12-14 20:55:41  
damn, thats kinda lame. Hume GS Stance is corny lol.
Well im hoping i didnt do caladbolg for nothing.
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By Bdice 2011-12-14 22:47:25  
thats it? no more info? at all? lol
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By Phoenix.Urteil 2011-12-15 08:13:29  
Why are you posting on two different accounts, that is what I'm wondering about.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2011-12-15 08:14:12  
Cerberus.Bdice said: »
Hume GS Stance is corny lol.

Just use plastic surgeon then
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2011-12-15 08:21:57  
You are only using it when Soul Eater is up that's about it. I actually wanna try and test it out on that taru to see if it really does beat out torc on high defense mobs, but he has some weird *** rules to him. So I don't know if I could get anything from testing on him.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-12-15 08:29:36  
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
You are only using it when Soul Eater is up that's about it. I actually wanna try and test it out on that taru to see if it really does beat out torc on high defense mobs, but he has some weird *** rules to him. So I don't know if I could get anything from testing on him.

Just do a voidwrought.

I'm guessing the people who said "it r bettar when bad guy have heap big defenz" weren't capping their attack anyhow. Some people just pull out their 85 caladbolg, pop a yellow curry, and mass vit.

I'm guessing resolution will be a "last resort down" ws for caladbolg users but I haven't tested it yet.
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By Cerberus.Bdice 2011-12-15 18:19:25  
yah i have yet to even do my cap fight, well since noone really knows ill post after testing.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-12-15 20:06:09  
Bdice said: »
thats it? no more info? at all? lol
All the info you need to know.
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By Ramuh.Scizor 2011-12-15 20:52:07  
Phoenix.Urteil said: »
Why are you posting on two different accounts, that is what I'm wondering about.
I was wondering this too
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By Odin.Nappy 2011-12-16 02:27:17  
Odin.Nappy said: »


War 2hr Epeen numbers aka nothing special




War near Peak




Drk peak
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By Cerberus.Bdice 2011-12-16 18:35:19  
Damn Nappy, thats boss.

Well, Ive Played minimal, im now 3/5 Entropy, And 2/5 Resolution.
The Aftermath Of Torcleaver really is the key factor.
Resolution is outstanding but Torc Aftermath > All.

Entropy everyone is hating but im impressed with it, its like an "Anti-Catastrophe" Converts Damage to MP, Hitting average 1.6k Entropy and it gives about 30% of that damage into MP
Pretty crazy i couldnt even run out of MP with this WS which i found impressive.

Resolution and Real numbers still needs testing.
ill report back.
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By Cerberus.Bdice 2011-12-17 19:59:52  
After lots of partying here are the conclusions.
(I Am Now 5/5 Entropy And 4/5 Resolution)

Entropy is an outstanding weaponskill, Visually and performance wise.
The damage @ 5/5 Beats Guillotine 100% of the time PLUS Drains MP.
Its like an anti-Catastrophe, if you have an Apoc, Your Life Is gunna be beautiful now. lol. (Drain HP And Drain MP In Weaponskills)
THIS WEAPON SKILL IS FOR ALL SERIOUS DRK!!!!

Resolution Is the best of Non-Relic Weaponskills, 80% of the time Torcleaver beat it (Not Including the aftermath) Its still a very good weaponskill and comes recommended by me

Things to note here...

-The Weapon Skills Seem to have a HUGE IMPACT once you hit 4/5 - 5/5
-Also the Stat Mods are huge here, Keep that in mind.
-Testing was done Within Abyssea Both with and without atmas.

Final Conclusion. (Personal)
Torcleaver (Not Including Aftermath)> Resolution > Other GS WS.

Entropy (To Add: MP Convert is WIN) > Guillotine/Insurgency > Other Scythe WS.

Ill Post these back at the top of the thread as an EDIT.
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2011-12-17 20:03:24  
can we uh, get some numbers to show your results and what gear you're wearing?
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By Bdice 2011-12-17 20:09:02  
Fixed.
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By Cerberus.Bdice 2011-12-17 20:14:12  
EDIT:

Added WS Gear Sets.
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By Fenrir.Skadoosh 2011-12-17 20:27:06  
Cerberus.Bdice said: »
After lots of partying here are the conclusions.
(I Am Now 5/5 Entropy And 4/5 Resolution)

Entropy is an outstanding weaponskill, Visually and performance wise.
The damage @ 5/5 Beats Guillotine 100% of the time PLUS Drains MP.
Its like an anti-Catastrophe, if you have an Apoc, Your Life Is gunna be beautiful now. lol. (Drain HP And Drain MP In Weaponskills)
THIS WEAPON SKILL IS FOR ALL SERIOUS DRK!!!!

Resolution Is the best of Non-Relic Weaponskills, 80% of the time Torcleaver beat it (Not Including the aftermath) Its still a very good weaponskill and comes recommended by me

Things to note here...

-The Weapon Skills Seem to have a HUGE IMPACT once you hit 4/5 - 5/5
-Also the Stat Mods are huge here, Keep that in mind.
-Testing was done Within Abyssea Both with and without atmas.

Final Conclusion. (Personal)
Torcleaver (Not Including Aftermath)> Resolution > Other GS WS.

Entropy (To Add: MP Convert is WIN) > Guillotine/Insurgency > Other Scythe WS.

Ill Post these back at the top of the thread as an EDIT.
Holy random capitalization. Doubt I even got em all.
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2011-12-17 20:28:57  
Fenrir.Skadoosh said: »
Cerberus.Bdice said: »
After lots of partying here are the conclusions.
(I Am Now 5/5 Entropy And 4/5 Resolution)

Entropy is an outstanding weaponskill, Visually and performance wise.
The damage @ 5/5 Beats Guillotine 100% of the time PLUS Drains MP.
Its like an anti-Catastrophe, if you have an Apoc, Your Life Is gunna be beautiful now. lol. (Drain HP And Drain MP In Weaponskills)
THIS WEAPON SKILL IS FOR ALL SERIOUS DRK!!!!

Resolution Is the best of Non-Relic Weaponskills, 80% of the time Torcleaver beat it (Not Including the aftermath) Its still a very good weaponskill and comes recommended by me

Things to note here...

-The Weapon Skills Seem to have a HUGE IMPACT once you hit 4/5 - 5/5
-Also the Stat Mods are huge here, Keep that in mind.
-Testing was done Within Abyssea Both with and without atmas.

Final Conclusion. (Personal)
Torcleaver (Not Including Aftermath)> Resolution > Other GS WS.

Entropy (To Add: MP Convert is WIN) > Guillotine/Insurgency > Other Scythe WS.

Ill Post these back at the top of the thread as an EDIT.
Holy random capitalization. Doubt I even got em all.


So?
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By Fenrir.Skadoosh 2011-12-17 20:30:18  
Touche. Thanks for testing it out Bdice, I can't wait to hear more about it.
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By Bdice 2011-12-17 20:36:05  
no problem, i needed to see for myself wasnt gunna let people talk down on stuff they dont even know about yet. lol

Ill be doing More testing with damage caps and such,
Ill post the info when i figure it out.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-12-17 20:47:21  
Bdice said: »
no problem, i needed to see for myself wasnt gunna let people talk down on stuff they dont even know about yet. lol

Ill be doing More testing with damage caps and such,
Ill post the info when i figure it out.
lol?

I really can't make this any clearer than I did with my first post. We already had proper info on these the day before the update hit.
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By Bdice 2011-12-17 20:48:46  
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Bdice said: »
no problem, i needed to see for myself wasnt gunna let people talk down on stuff they dont even know about yet. lol

Ill be doing More testing with damage caps and such,
Ill post the info when i figure it out.
lol?

Alot of people were telling me entropy was garbage, Thats why i did testing?
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By Cerberus.Bdice 2011-12-17 22:00:45  
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Bdice said: »
thats it? no more info? at all? lol
All the info you need to know.

Ahh Missed that post sorry lol.
Perfect.
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By Asura.Dajociont 2011-12-17 22:24:47  
the..***
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2011-12-18 23:23:04  
So I hear murmors here and elsewhere Entropy was ninjabuffed. Can we get somebody competent to test it since I blew my merits on Resolution already?
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By Asura.Arkanethered 2011-12-18 23:43:31  
If they ninja buffed it I will be surprised... and probably chuckle a bit.... *** SE.


If I get the merits from VW... Ill 1/5 it and go play around.

What would be decent mobs to play with?
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