Conqueror
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Conqueror
So with the nerf incoming for the ukon where does the Conqueror stand compared to the ukon?
It's ugly like the af3 body.
So they sit together.
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Best looking GA of the 3 tbh and you get to spam the best looking GA WS for aftermath :D
Quiznor said: » Best looking GA of the 3 tbh and you get to spam the best looking GA WS for aftermath :D Not if you're a galka! I just love one-handing a Gaxe to do a WS, so its Steel Cyclone, Full Break or Ukko's Fury for me! ...Ukko's it is! I dunno about which would be better, but I like my ukon, and nerf might not be as damaging as most think. Thinking Ukonvasara would still end up being better, but like I said, I dunno. I would think miser's roll and the Save TP atmacite would devalue the OAT aftermath on Conqueror in Voidwatch.
Xorn said: » I would think miser's roll and the Save TP atmacite would devalue the OAT aftermath on Conqueror in Voidwatch. The aftermath procs on WS awell, so it's a very good ws buff too! And mythic lvl3 aftermath lasts for 3 minutes, so you barely ever have to reapply it. With constant AM3 its the best GA.
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Ah, I was wrong then.
Looks like through a combo of magian trials (what they've added to them) and nerfs on other weapons/WS's,mythics are making a comeback to relative of difficulty to get/reward
it doesnt compare, once again Weapons that were horrible before only got slighlty better Ukon is still better, even Bravua is better.
You severely underestimate the power of three minutes of a high proc OA2-3 effect on a weapon like Conqueror.
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Valefor.Prothescar said: » You severely underestimate the power of three minutes of a high proc OA2-3 effect on a weapon like Conqueror. People are stupid for not noticing this.
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Conqueror crushes the other weapons during times that you can maintain level3 aftermath.
Conqueror > Ukon > Bravura, when you're able to maintain Stage III AM from Conqueror.
With the recent changes to the Empyrean WS and the Relic WS + increased ODD, Bravura may just edge out Ukon in output over a longer period of time. For shorter samples Ukon will still come out on top, I'd think. Ukon will still come out ahead, bravura is only worthwhile if you need the DT from aftermath to stay alive.
My shell likes to refer to me as Death King, so.... Yeah. -_-
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Phoenix.Dramatica said: » Ukon will still come out ahead, bravura is only worthwhile if you need the DT from aftermath to stay alive. Ukon90 (the highest 99.9% of Ukon owners will ever get) vs Bravura99 should be a nice battle.
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Odin.Almont said: » My shell likes to refer to me as Death King, so.... Yeah. -_-
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Ragnarok.Nemesio said: » Odin.Almont said: » My shell likes to refer to me as Death King, so.... Yeah. -_- I have PDT & MDT sets and I do swap them in, thank you. What it shows is that when you end up standing about in orange HP for a few minutes with no cures you're more likely to get taken out by a TP move. But thanks for assuming I'm an idiot. Odin.Almont said: » Ragnarok.Nemesio said: » Odin.Almont said: » My shell likes to refer to me as Death King, so.... Yeah. -_- I have PDT & MDT sets and I do swap them in, thank you. What it shows is that when you end up standing about in orange HP for a few minutes with no cures you're more likely to get taken out by a TP move. But thanks for assuming I'm an idiot. Sadly, no argument there. I can count on on one hand the WHMs I actually trust and have fingers left over.
Cerberus.Taint said: » Phoenix.Dramatica said: » Ukon will still come out ahead, bravura is only worthwhile if you need the DT from aftermath to stay alive. Ukon90 (the highest 99.9% of Ukon owners will ever get) vs Bravura99 should be a nice battle. Let's not forget the DefDown it puts on the mob for everyone else :/ I don't think Ukon90 will be much comp to a Bravura99 >.> As much a Metatron isn't Ukko's I'm sure that the 40% damage boost at 99 will make it more consistent than Ukko's is
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Quetzalcoatl.Generic said: » Cerberus.Taint said: » Phoenix.Dramatica said: » Ukon will still come out ahead, bravura is only worthwhile if you need the DT from aftermath to stay alive. Ukon90 (the highest 99.9% of Ukon owners will ever get) vs Bravura99 should be a nice battle. Let's not forget the DefDown it puts on the mob for everyone else :/ I don't think Ukon90 will be much comp to a Bravura99 >.> As much a Metatron isn't Ukko's I'm sure that the 40% damage boost at 99 will make it more consistent than Ukko's is The aftermath is just DT-, the def down is an add effect from meta
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Cerberus.Kvazz said: » Quetzalcoatl.Generic said: » Cerberus.Taint said: » Phoenix.Dramatica said: » Ukon will still come out ahead, bravura is only worthwhile if you need the DT from aftermath to stay alive. Ukon90 (the highest 99.9% of Ukon owners will ever get) vs Bravura99 should be a nice battle. Let's not forget the DefDown it puts on the mob for everyone else :/ I don't think Ukon90 will be much comp to a Bravura99 >.> As much a Metatron isn't Ukko's I'm sure that the 40% damage boost at 99 will make it more consistent than Ukko's is The aftermath is just DT-, the def down is an add effect from meta You get the aftermath even if Meta miss, but the mob wont get def down ;)
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