/WAR Vs /SAM In VW

Depends on the mob, tier6 /war for sure. Lower stuff /sam. The biggest boost from /war is zerk, if you can use the attack it can be a huge increase in DoT. If LR is already capping you then the WS frequency of /sam will pull ahead. (hasso is still good)

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DRK/WAR all day everyday

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whats the % of /sam zanshin proc? because i would think that would also add up.

I wasn't referring to you, but hey- using addition to tell us how much DA you'll have with a different subjob(without mentioning how all of your other sources of it devalue the trait) isn't pointing anything out. You haven't said anything of the increase/decrease to WS frequency, nor have you calculated the impact the DA increase will have on average WS damage. Anyone who didn't know precisely why which is better than the other still has no idea.

Berserk will do more for your Resolution than DA will. That thing has like 4.75 FTP with Moonshade, Gorget/Belt, and 0 TP overflow.

I'm personally a /SAM fan, but I can see how /WAR is something to consider for DRK at the 99 cap. But I'm not going to take the time to seriously consider it right now.

A few things to note:
DA can only proc on the first two hits of a WS, so there is actually only a 19% chance for DA to proc at least once on Resolution with nothing else, a 36% chance for it to proc with Atheling, Pole, Brutal, and there is a 42.2% chance with Avant and Jingang as well.

In response to Hasso, it is 10% JA ability haste, but unfortunately does not stack with LR.
In one hour a DRK with Caladbolg and capped haste in gear with 0 DA and no haste cast on them swings 669 times in one hour. This goes up to 911 times with only using LR (assuming fully merited).
If they are /WAR with no haste cast on them and 0 DA gear, this goes to 736 (no using LR) and 1002 (using LR).
If they are /SAM in same circumstances, 772 and 940 respectively.

So in a more organized formate:
/??? - 699 and 911 LR
/WAR - 736 and 1002 LR
/SAM - 772 and 940 LR

If you factor in 10% DA in gear for TP (Pole, Atheling, Brutal):
/??? - 736 and 1002 LR
/WAR - 802 and 1093 LR
/SAM - 849 and 1034 LR

Now if they receive haste and have 10% DA in gear:
/??? - 914 and 1383 LR
/WAR - 997 and 1508 LR
/SAM - 1096 and 1434 LR

Ideally, a DRK should be riding LR, and most good VW should be over before or close to when LR wears off. However, these numbers to not compensate for STP and WS frequency. It would be alot of work to factor in all the STP, Regain, Save TP, and dusty wings from VW, and I really don't feel like trying to math all that out. Anyways, my money would be on /SAM due to the STP for WS frequency, zanshin and hasso because some VW mobs can be evasive, and meditate and sekkanoki are handy.

Seriously? The amount that's going to be present regardless is your "base". Not to mention, as it was said, you drastically miscalculated the DA estimation.

Like I said, as well intended as I'm sure this was, this clears up absolutely nothing.

DRK/WAR All day everyday~

How I wish we were on the same server....

Now ppl are seeing that /war is good how 2 months ago..

@ DA procing on the first 2 hits of a WS, someone posted data about resolution being able to DA/TA on all hits, but I never saw a confirmation on it. Someone should look into that. (still capped at 2da max obviously, but it supposedly had the chance to DA on each of its hits)

Also some fights only last around 3mins, such as qilin. /war would be highly favored in these fights.

I'm still skilling up my gsword in prep for ragnarok, but if no one tests it by the time I reach 357, I'll test it.

Tier6 VW really made /war a must. Before that capping attack could be done /sam.

if this is true. that drk's should be riding LR out and the mob should be dead before or close to when LR wears off, then meditate and sekkanoki become useless after your first few weaponskills.

so the only thing going /sam helps with maybe is the ws frequency, the low zanshin proc and hasso.

whereas going /war gets you more double attack, attack buffs, aggressor

This is all assuming a perfect 3 minute void watch fight with everything being perfect and assuming no drk procs.. Ok I'll concede war probably comes out on top under this very specific set of conditions.... But I personally have been in very fee runs where that is the case. So let's not sit here and persuade the lesser members of the dark community (those that hurt our reputation) that war is the end all sub when its situational for only a few of us.

^^

Thank you for stating what some of us were already thinking.

isn't drg/sam better?

drk/war is basically limited to zergs or extremely high def mobs.

So, you're saying that you don't think it's a bad idea to pick the less optimal choice willingly? Right then.

"WAR is an okay choice."


"But WAR is not the best choice."


"Using it anyways."