Hiatus

I'm sure you've never jay-walked or ran a stop sign or anything Mr perfect (Not trying to start a s*** storm just saying)

*Evil Grin* ;D

You don't see any of the perfectly legitimate questions/comments made because they're deleted right away.

I've spoken up a bit more about the moderation and I was one of the people to PM an admin about it.

That being said, this shouldn't be an open opportunity to bash Krizz. That's just low.

Totally understand. You are back now and thats what counts. Some havent had a privilege back. At least you were smarter than the ones who actually cuss us out over a topicban and then harass on other forms of communication.

Omg can I molest it too

wait I'm modding! stop it!

You can molest me >:P

That argument only works if you assume the offense warranted the subsequent punishment. Even then, do you really expect a large community of human beings to just... behave? Because I've got a very large body of evidence that says that's not happening. Rulebreaking is a form of risky behavior. Animals of all kinds will take risks when they think the potential rewards are worthwhile. For your assertion to be reasonable, that behavior pattern would have to be nonexistent within humans, in which case we wouldn't even need these rules or moderation to begin with.

Aside from one person, I don't really see anyone bashing Krizz.

Criticism doesn't necessarily equal bashing.

No i do not know the situation i am speaking from what i know of the situation (which mine as well be little to nothing). If they were actually breaking the rules then i do believe its their own fault and they can deal with it. If not then yea its messed up.

The whole point is that in many cases, moderation power was over- or misused, otherwise there would be no issues with krizz being a moderator.

I have better things to do with my time than sit here and hate on an internet forum's moderator for jollies.

I would like to hear from an Admin about this now.

Anyways, even though Krizz is on hiatus. Rules still stand, nothing changes on following the rules. Common sense and use your judgement when posting a pic, video, or response.

You guys make the community.

I think to say that everything is going to fall to anarchy is to really pee on the users and the mods with one fell swing. The adjustment period is over, and I daresay that it was rather successful. Now we have a profanity-filter, anyways, which I'd imagine lightens the load.

And really, now that we understand the effects of how the community was back then, I feel as though we can safely say that there has been a massive shift in the community, in general, for the better. If you want proof, look in the fact that the past few hot debate topics (at least the ones I read) managed to have the users diffuse rising tensions and keep themselves better in check.

It can, perhaps, be said that the website has matured a little bit. Perhaps there was a time where it was like the 11 year old that discovers CoD and XBL for the first time, but now I'd say it's a sixteen year old that only really gets ugly when it's pissed beyond belief.

We have a good mod and admin staff, and generally, a good user base. We won't see anarchy, not by a long shot.

Without condemning or condoning, I will say that Krizz taking a break is likely to be mutual to the forum as well as beneficial for the tolls general moderation takes.
As Jaerik has noted, he picked his moderators accordingly to the ever-changing needs of the site and keeping advertisers happy so we can have a place to obtain information and post in the first place. Krizz was indeed a hardass, but for the time of his position was warranted with how out of hand things were, while Anye and Aly tended to be softer in terms of enforcement and leniency.
However, I will say that it is good that posters and moderators can openly discuss the direction and policy of rule enforcement to a steadfast and mutual level with minimum censorship. As we're all painfully aware, that was perhaps the biggest issue we had with Krizz and in some cases still have. I think Krizz can still make a good mod, however, both he and the community need to remain open on what is okay to do and what is not and how it goes about being addressed.

Something something deleting posts in "Pics that make you LOL" for having too much text or something. No offense, but it seemed like the rate at which threads/post deletions and topicbans were being dished out was excessively high for awhile there. As far as people openly discussing their incidents, it's a more tangible aspect to what's been going on with so much negative feedback, in my opinion.

If the glaring issues were addressed, I'd be fine with krizz retaining moderator status as I'm sure most others would be. However, in the words of the great Jim Lahey, "a ***leopard can't change its spots".

here we go...

For future reference, bringing a post like that to the current page does nothing to quell any potential arguments.

I think a big part of things running smoothly around here for the past few months is due in part to a handful of extremely disruptive personalities who were ejected.

Was Krizz heavy handed with the moderation, and the deletions? Yeah. I think that is the general sentiment. However give the guy credit where it is due. The role he played with showing that disruptive group the door made the overall vibe here better.

heard aly was molesting people again.... where do we sign up? <3 aly

when i quoted it i thought we were still on the same page, i didnt expect this thread to be so lively. so my bad.

*wink* <3

On a final note I'll say this:

I hope Krizz takes this opportunity to take some time off from everything.

Maybe a nice vacation to somewhere like Hawaii.

Even a nice soak in a hot tub can do wonders for stress.

Take some time to reflect, etc. and then come back ready to perform his duties to the community.

Hopefully it won't take him too long, maybe a week at most.

Perhaps posts were deleted, but the "Probably still a sensitive subject.." I think was a good example of Krizz banning someone from a topic just because they had a difference of opinion, as I saw no personal attacks taking place there.

I've been watching too much Sons of Anarchy. I played this whole thing out in my head with Jaerik as Wayne Unser and Krizz as David Hale lol.
But I suppose that's a fair contrast as one works relentlessly to stop any wrongdoing regardless of the risk, cost, or consequence of liberty for the community. While the other takes the big picture into consideration and works with outlaws to maintain a mutual peace for everyone while keeping unnecessary clashes between user and authority to a minimum.

This thread seems overkill for a week-long break. We're talking in the months range at least. No reason to revoke his mod status otherwise. If this forum follows most common forum norms, he wouldn't even need his mod status revoked in order to remove his mod abilities, leaving things a comfortable normal while they worked in-house issues out. No, I'd say this is a conclusion to something, with room for change in the relatively near future.

this is what i thought of reading your post

Well I am going to lock this for now, gonna let admins/mod read it and if Scragg or Jaerik want to reply they will open and post.

So for now please work with us, the rules still stand and PM us if there is anything.