[Dev] Diabolic Eye Adjustments

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[Dev] Diabolic Eye Adjustments
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-02-28 14:37:04  
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Howdy!

We will be adjusting Diabolic Eye once more.

Gildrein said:
Diabolic Eye
  • Recast time will be reduced from fifteen minutes to five.

  • Additional merit points will no longer reduce recast time, but instead lessen the maximum HP down effect by 20% per point.


The above adjustment was an attempt to make Soul Eater easier to use by reducing the amount of HP that was lowered. However, after actually testing this the attractiveness was not very strong, so we decided to change the effect when adding merit points to this ability.

Post-change effect

Diabolic Eye
  • Recast time will be reduced from fifteen minutes to five.

  • Additional merit points will no longer reduce recast time, but instead increase accuracy by +5 per point.


The idea behind this change is to enhance the original effect of Diabolic Eye.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-02-28 14:46:13  
F YEAH!

I was just debating yesterday whether or not to go 4/5 DE, and 1 dark seal or 5/5 DE. This new "adjustment" seals the deal at 5/5 (although I wonder if they'll change the af2+2 augment, or not).
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-02-28 14:48:20  
sweet drks just got better in end game :O less pizza more curry? xD
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2012-02-28 14:51:26  
and... they will still miss WSs
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By Sylph.Kimble 2012-02-28 15:13:50  
Bismarck.Snprphnx said: »
and... they will still miss WSs

Yeah, as far as I know, no job can break the 95% acc cap.
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2012-02-28 15:31:36  
Niiiiiiiiiice! Can't wait for this already.

Leviathan.Phenomena said: »
sweet drks just got better in end game :O less pizza more curry? xD
DRKs eat pizza IRL anyways!
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-02-28 15:34:03  
Sylph.Kimble said: »
Bismarck.Snprphnx said: »
and... they will still miss WSs

Yeah, as far as I know, no job can break the 95% acc cap.

Sam can on zanshin with that one GK >.>
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By Phoenix.Baelorn 2012-02-28 15:37:58  
Oh, joy, SE still thinks DRKs need more Acc.
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By Ragnarok.Returner 2012-02-28 15:38:55  
Does AF2+2 need to be put on throughout the duration of DE for the extra 30 sec?
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-02-28 15:39:45  
Ragnarok.Returner said: »
Does AF2+2 need to be put on throughout the duration of DE for the extra 30 sec?

No, just when triggering.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-02-28 15:42:47  
Full of win.

5/5 DE FTW
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By Ragnarok.Returner 2012-02-28 15:49:02  
Hot stuff, gonna upgrade it right away then.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-02-28 16:06:15  
I really liked that old update to DE, but this is even better.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2012-02-28 16:12:38  
I had a 100% hit rate before.. Some how I divided by 0 and FFXI crashed :/
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By Schwertzauberer 2012-02-28 16:17:27  
Hmmm, now I can finally finish my DRK Group 2 merits?
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-02-28 16:20:28  
I wonder ( Yet highly doubt it) if SE will give us the ability to switch around our merits in group 2 since they are altering what we originally merited.

will they make us dump/remerit even if we were already 10/10? D: i assume so and it makes me mad -.-
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-02-29 04:44:07  
Leviathan.Phenomena said: »
I wonder ( Yet highly doubt it) if SE will give us the ability to switch around our merits in group 2 since they are altering what we originally merited.

will they make us dump/remerit even if we were already 10/10? D: i assume so and it makes me mad -.-

Not like getting merits is hard these days, and unless you do VW(which gets you the merits in like 1-2 runs), not like you need these merits anyways :p
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2012-02-29 08:48:14  
Phoenix.Baelorn said: »
Oh, joy, SEthe gimp players SE listens to still think DRKs need more Acc.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-02-29 08:52:35  
Diabolos.Raelia said: »
Phoenix.Baelorn said: »
Oh, joy, SEthe gimp players SE listens to still think DRKs need more Acc.



I must be gimp then ><
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By Shiva.Gib 2012-02-29 09:07:29  
Cerberus.Taint said: »
Diabolos.Raelia said: »
Phoenix.Baelorn said: »
Oh, joy, SEthe gimp players SE listens to still think DRKs need more Acc.



I must be gimp then ><
I know the feel bro

"Hur Dur, with Razed Ruins I rarely miss!'
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2012-02-29 09:12:09  
Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
F YEAH!

I was just debating yesterday whether or not to go 4/5 DE, and 1 dark seal or 5/5 DE. This new "adjustment" seals the deal at 5/5 (although I wonder if they'll change the af2+2 augment, or not).


Eh... Im not so convinced, If DS gives fast cast to Black magic spells (instead of just dark magic spells), Can anyone say insta-cast impact for 100tp?

As an Apoc owner, the extra accuracy is much less appealing to me, but for those with Calad, and Redemption, I can see the appeal.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-02-29 09:22:35  
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
F YEAH! I was just debating yesterday whether or not to go 4/5 DE, and 1 dark seal or 5/5 DE. This new "adjustment" seals the deal at 5/5 (although I wonder if they'll change the af2+2 augment, or not).
Eh... Im not so convinced, If DS gives fast cast to Black magic spells (instead of just dark magic spells), Can anyone say insta-cast impact for 100tp? As an Apoc owner, the extra accuracy is much less appealing to me, but for those with Calad, and Redemption, I can see the appeal.

I thought I had read that it was only going to be monster targeted spells that are dark magic (somethign camate said about not making dread spikes broken). I have no link to back that up and its a vague memory. Either way its not like itll be hard to swing 22 merits.

On top of that, it will help those, currently rare but possibly more frequent soon, situations that even relic drk doesnt cap acc. I saw Raelia making an argument for pizza the other day. I've seen Taint's posts about not capping acc with relic on some fights. Theoretically, Legion / new content could have evasive situations, but only time will tell.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-02-29 09:34:18  
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
As an Apoc owner, the extra accuracy is much less appealing to me,


This is exactly the problem with 99% of all the DD out there, esp ones that get a Relic and think they are instantly capped in ACC. Parse a few T6 fights (the whole alliance) and let me know your thoughts on capped ACC.
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2012-02-29 13:28:38  
Dark Seal doesn't affect Impact. Can't use Relic +2 head either because you can't take the cloak off.

The problem with 99% of DD out there is they get told to eat Curry by Relic owners, especially lolOne-Handers.

Pizza will still be a larger accuracy increase than Diabolic Eye.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-02-29 14:15:22  
Diabolos.Raelia said: »
Dark Seal doesn't affect Impact. Can't use Relic +2 head either because you can't take the cloak off. The problem with 99% of DD out there is they get told to eat Curry by Relic owners, especially lolOne-Handers. Pizza will still be a larger accuracy increase than Diabolic Eye.


Sure Pizza works but if you can use DE and Curry to cap acc your net gain much larger then Pizza by itself. non Relic users might need Pizza+DE to cap on some mobs.
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By fyreus 2012-03-08 22:01:13  
5/5? Did i miss the sarcasm here? 5/5? We have acc everywhere you can possibly think to look. On content that matters there's tons of acc supplement that my 270club can hit stuff. Or are you guys fighting thf mobs?
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-08 22:06:38  
Diabolos.Raelia said: »
Dark Seal doesn't affect Impact. Can't use Relic +2 head either because you can't take the cloak off.

The problem with 99% of DD out there is they get told to eat Curry by Relic owners, especially lolOne-Handers.

Pizza will still be a larger accuracy increase than Diabolic Eye.

No. It's just like it was at 75.
1.) Cap accuracy and max haste that you can get in gear.
2.) Eat curry.

The problem with 99% of DD out there is that they're assuming they're at capped accuracy when they're not.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-03-08 22:16:59  
Diabolos.Raelia said: »
ld to eat Curry by Relic owners, especially lolOne-Handers.

My mnk's acc is just fine (read, capped) using CB, except maybe on rex with focus/aggressor down (lol mnk at rex).
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2012-03-08 22:30:22  
Phoenix.Baelorn said: »
Oh, joy, SE still thinks DRKs need more Acc.
Yay more attack and STR gear for me!
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