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 Cerberus.Taint
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-03-22 10:23:02  
Just wanted to state the ODD rate of 99 Apoc is still 20%.

Finally tested it last night. Still does not proc on DA/TA/QA as well.
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 Ragnarok.Unctgtg
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By Ragnarok.Unctgtg 2012-03-22 10:25:53  
R you sure Taint, or I was just swinging to fast with Apoc/RR/VV on and swore I saw a couple on my last swing triple attack, but that was just me eyeballing lol.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-03-22 13:34:13  
Ragnarok.Unctgtg said: »
R you sure Taint, or I was just swinging to fast with Apoc/RR/VV on and swore I saw a couple on my last swing triple attack, but that was just me eyeballing lol.


Would love to be proven wrong but I ran around abyssea for 90min last night and never had a ODD proc on anything but the first swing.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-03-22 13:52:26  
On afterglow itll work on all hits if it procs on first :3
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-03-22 13:52:39  
but r you sure
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By Phoenix.Evildemon 2012-03-22 13:54:31  
Oh he's sure just horde all the umbral's and steal your friends etc!
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By Remora.Brain 2012-03-22 21:03:46  
If you've got some proof you may want to report it on the official site. The upgrade notes on the Relic changes clearly states they increased the chance of dealing increased damage for a 99 Relic.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-03-22 21:25:25  
Remora.Brain said: »
If you've got some proof you may want to report it on the official site. The upgrade notes on the Relic changes clearly states they increased the chance of dealing increased damage for a 99 Relic.

No, it states that there is enhanced increased damage rate on the weapons in addition to everything else on it.

In otherwords, they might have just put it there because it was on the 95 version.
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By Remora.Brain 2012-03-22 21:53:50  
It says "Increased chance of dealing extra damage", not "Occasionally deals extra damage" which would be the proper way of putting it. Though they are HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE and could have half-assed it like that.
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-03-22 21:58:53  
Remora.Brain said: »
It says "Increased chance of dealing extra damage", not "Occasionally deals extra damage" which would be the proper way of putting it. Though they are HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE and could have half-assed it like that.

That's because it did get an increase....at lvl95. It was there originally at lvl75.
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By Remora.Brain 2012-03-22 22:17:46  
I know this, I'm saying why announce it as increased on the 99 when it would have been the same as the last level. It's just half-assed. Better yet, why not just post the damn % like they did with the Catastrophe upgrade.
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-03-22 22:19:31  
Remora.Brain said: »
I know this, I'm saying why announce it as increased on the 99 when it would have been the same as the last level. It's just half-assed. Better yet, why not just post the damn % like they did with the Catastrophe upgrade.

Probably because they didn't announce anything of the sort previously in any of the upgrades (lv.80, 85, 90, 95).
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By Remora.Brain 2012-03-22 22:55:47  
They never announced anything about it, but we already knew about it for a while now, it's just stupid to mention it now as "increased" when listing the updated stats for 99 when the increase was at 95. I still say they should have put the %. Why can they give us a specific % for Catastrophe upgrade and not for ODD?
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-03-23 06:16:33  
So that people like you have something to *** about.
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By Bismarck.Colliex 2012-03-24 03:58:04  
Wrong the ODD on Apoc 99 proc more than 20% and the ODD procs on DA and TA...You must be smoking dope or something, you need to do another test because your results are bogus
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-03-24 04:00:09  
Bismarck.Colliex said: »
Wrong the ODD on Apoc 99 proc more than 20% and the ODD procs on DA and TA...You must be smoking dope or something, you need to do another test because your results are bogus

NOu

proof?
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2012-03-24 04:01:07  
do not feed the obvious trolls :[
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-03-24 04:05:35  
i cant help it ;;
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 Ragnarok.Unctgtg
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By Ragnarok.Unctgtg 2012-03-24 04:08:26  
Again happened last night multiple times on last hit of triple attack
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2012-03-24 04:16:31  
I'd guess af3+2 proc? It would be easy to refute if Taint is wrong, just toss on Apoc/A+O and swing at things not wearing af3+2. at 20% ODD rate and 25(I think? might be 30) TA you would have horrible luck to not see a proc.

100 swings, 25 triple attacks, to see none proc at 20% ODD is
.8^25 = 0.00377789319 or .3%. Thus it would just be the process of taking a screenshot that should be easilly gotten in like 20~ minutes tops.

Edit: and that is acting on the assumption that ODD can only proc on the first hit and carries over. If it procs independantly of first hit its even more likely you would see a proc.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-03-24 05:07:55  
Remember to not use any forms of haste not to mix up multihit swings with swings just overlapping due to hitting fast.
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By Bismarck.Helel 2012-03-24 05:43:50  
The fact that you (unct) are refuting taint's claim with vv and apoc up is absolutely HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. Taint specifically tested the ODD while you're just eyeballing it. Quit posting useless information.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-03-24 05:46:50  
And yeah, I trust Taints tests.
He's not some random noob
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By Fenrir.Greever 2012-03-24 05:50:12  
Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
And yeah, I trust Taints tests.
He's not some random noob

Same, Ive been following his advice (especially for drk) for years now.
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By Ragnarok.Nekonarf 2012-03-24 07:22:14  
poidh. Relics can't proc on double or triple attacks 2/3rd hits, thought this was common knowledge since 75 but I guess not! Unless uncts account is bought lol.
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By Asura.Hotsoups 2012-03-24 15:50:25  
Relics can proc on Double Shots! w00t w00t RNG
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By Bismarck.Colliex 2012-03-24 16:12:19  
Some of you Taint worshipers are idiots and cant do any testing yourself, ODD procs on DA and TA, and on the lvl 99 apoc (which I have and everyone bismark know I have)the ODD proc rate is higher than 20% and again procing on DA's and TA's.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-24 16:12:51  
Prove it.
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 Bismarck.Colliex
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By Bismarck.Colliex 2012-03-24 16:17:17  
I had my apoc for 3 weeks and looks like taint only had his for a few days, looks like hes the one that eyeballed on the first day he tried his weapon
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