To Buy, Or Not To Buy.. Tiphia Sting

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To buy, or not to buy.. Tiphia Sting
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 Sylph.Hitetsu
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By Sylph.Hitetsu 2009-06-30 02:49:00  
Tiphia sting is currently hitting around 160-180k on Sylph atm. Is it really worth that much? Not because of anything like "OMG THE NM IS BAD!", but because it actually is a worthwhile piece of gear?

Stats:
All Races
HP -25 Accuracy +2
Attack +2 Evasion -4
Lv.58 All Jobs

Are there any cheaper, viable alternatives? What's the best Ammo slot piece you can use for SAM? I'm thinking RSE Satchet, being ELV I get a good ws piece. (STR+2)
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By Pandemonium.Eternaltriumph 2009-06-30 02:52:00  
Satchet is fine of you're not having ACC issues. However, since both are AMMO, macro swapping them won't take away your TP I believe. I've seen a few SAM TPing in a Smart Grenade also. Gotten from an easy quest in the past.
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By Bahamut.Etrayis 2009-06-30 03:08:03  
Buy it
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By Shiva.Drteeth 2009-06-30 08:35:51  
Eternaltriumph said:
Satchet is fine of you're not having ACC issues. However, since both are AMMO, macro swapping them won't take away your TP I believe. I've seen a few SAM TPing in a Smart Grenade also. Gotten from an easy quest in the past.


^This. Buy it if you've got gil to blow. If not, stick with the satchet or Smart Grenade. And no, swapping ammo doesn't reset TP. :3
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By Seraph.Caiyuo 2009-06-30 08:44:40  
Welp, if you can't manage or equip Black Tath or Bomblet (if this applies to any other jobs besides SAM), I'd say it's worthwhile. If either of those are an option, though, I'd just save up, personally, moreso with Bomblet than Tath since the latter is usually hella overpriced. Anyway, as ET said you can swap ammos without losing TP, so it's still a nice TP slot that can be changed if the -eva is ever something you want to tear off in a situation. There's never really going to be any point where you aren't going to need the ACC for TP unless you full-time sushi 24/7 or solely do events that involve weak shiz.

As SAM I don't have a Tathlum, so I've been using Tiphia for TP and Sachet for WS for like ..ever. Not much else to throw in there unless you want to deal with stat-bows, but then you can't swap ***. Plus someone will eventually ask you to pull something that will probably result in you dying or wanting to kill yourself. lol
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-06-30 08:48:16  
Rowland said:
Drteeth said:
And no, swapping ammo doesn't reset TP. :3

Rangers everywhere would be all kinds of pissed if it did.

120% TP, run out of arrows, put more arrows in go back to 0% TP ;;


Or Thfs that constantly swap bolts such as Sleep and Bloody when soloing.
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By Gilgamesh.Ittoryu 2009-06-30 09:03:44  
real thfs cant get enough eva till near end game
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By Caitsith.Cyrius 2009-06-30 09:05:28  
I use the Smart Grenade(+5 Attack hidden effect) for my Sam and Mnk.... it's free and an easy quest, but thats just me.
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-06-30 09:07:06  
Onry +4 att.
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By Caitsith.Cyrius 2009-06-30 09:08:56  
Sorry my mistake.
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-06-30 09:10:53  
Cyrius said:
Sorry my mistake.


DAMN SKIPPY IT IS!
Anyway, I never saw a Tiphia Sting worth the gil amount. If it is one of your last upgrades you need, go for it. I'd spend the 150k~200k elsewhere personally.
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By Midgardsormr.Frobeus 2009-06-30 09:13:22  
Buy Sting, use Elf satchet for WS.

Sting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gernade

Acc is not to be underestimated.
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By Caitsith.Cyrius 2009-06-30 09:13:25  
Well you don't need to be a *** about it.... i owned up to it at least.
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-06-30 09:34:51  
Cyrius said:
Well you don't need to be a *** about it.... i owned up to it at least.


You must be new around here.
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By Gilgamesh.Bishopx 2009-06-30 09:52:18  
I WISHHHH I could equip my Smart Grenade, but my dumbass threw it accidently with a macro. Tifia Sting it is...
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By Gilgamesh.Tallulah 2009-06-30 10:00:53  
Rowland said:
That bee NM is a ***. All he does is just spam cure V and pollen ;;

It's possible to solo it, it just takes your entire life.

I had a friend try sam/dnc, he never died, but 3 hours later he got bored.


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on topic? it's been covered.
that made me lol though.
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By Midgardsormr.Frobeus 2009-06-30 10:15:44  
Bishopx said:
I WISHHHH I could equip my Smart Grenade, but my dumbass threw it accidently with a macro. Tifia Sting it is...


Request a new one?
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By Unicorn.Excesspain 2009-06-30 10:19:30  
Rowland said:
Haseyo said:
Rowland said:
Drteeth said:
And no, swapping ammo doesn't reset TP. :3

Rangers everywhere would be all kinds of pissed if it did.

120% TP, run out of arrows, put more arrows in go back to 0% TP ;;


Or Thfs that constantly swap bolts such as Sleep and Bloody when soloing.

Real thfs don't take damage cuz their evasion is so crazy.

316 evasion skill once I get boxer's and i can't remember how much +evasion but it's at least in the high 30s.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2009-06-30 10:23:20  
buy it, great ammo piece.
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By Gilgamesh.Bishopx 2009-06-30 10:26:58  
Frobeus said:
Bishopx said:
I WISHHHH I could equip my Smart Grenade, but my dumbass threw it accidently with a macro. Tifia Sting it is...


Request a new one?

Can't request Smart Grenade last time I checked and its been way too long to call GM for replacement , let alone I won't do that on this piece lol. P.S. however, even though its r/ex , you can not only toss it, but u can dbox it. So I been seeing if any of my mage friends want to do quest and dbox it to me ^^
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By Unicorn.Excesspain 2009-06-30 10:27:13  
Bishopx said:
I WISHHHH I could equip my Smart Grenade, but my dumbass threw it accidently with a macro. Tifia Sting it is...

Bring a mule to the past to do the quest, you can D.Box it.
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By Midgardsormr.Frobeus 2009-06-30 10:34:59  
Excesspain said:
Bishopx said:
I WISHHHH I could equip my Smart Grenade, but my dumbass threw it accidently with a macro. Tifia Sting it is...

Bring a mule to the past to do the quest, you can D.Box it.


^ this. So yea, request it.
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By Gilgamesh.Bishopx 2009-06-30 10:41:38  
Guess I'll try the mule thing. lol Thx guys.
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By Midgardsormr.Frobeus 2009-06-30 11:23:36  
Hitetsu said:
Tiphia sting is currently hitting around 160-180k on Sylph atm. Is it really worth that much? Not because of anything like "OMG THE NM IS BAD!", but because it actually is a worthwhile piece of gear?

Stats:
All Races
HP -25 Accuracy +2
Attack +2 Evasion -4
Lv.58 All Jobs

Are there any cheaper, viable alternatives? What's the best Ammo slot piece you can use for SAM? I'm thinking RSE Satchet, being ELV I get a good ws piece. (STR+2)


To the OP Black Tathlum is best hands down, but it is not cheap.
Next would possibly be Ifrit's bow (maybe) but lol at getting that.
Next, Goblin Cracker, also not cheap.
Then Tiphia Sting, it is the best that is affordable.
If your not an elvaan I would suggest Lighting Bow +1 over tiphia, but if you are elvaan its not worth losing RSE ammo for WS.
Smart Gernade after that, not that great but free.
RSE ammo should be WS only since at the very least Gernade is free.
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By Titan.Tasios 2009-06-30 11:31:28  
Rowland said:
That bee NM is a ***. All he does is just spam cure V and pollen ;;

It's possible to solo it, it just takes your entire life.

I had a friend try sam/dnc, he never died, but 3 hours later he got bored.


Do like I did. Give a thf friend a buttload of sleep bolts and have them sleep bolt it to death. That's how I got my sting after throwing mine by mistake while doing a manual WS. :)
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By Ramuh.Guffy 2009-07-01 03:58:22  
Frobeus said:
Hitetsu said:
Tiphia sting is currently hitting around 160-180k on Sylph atm. Is it really worth that much? Not because of anything like "OMG THE NM IS BAD!", but because it actually is a worthwhile piece of gear?

Stats:
All Races
HP -25 Accuracy +2
Attack +2 Evasion -4
Lv.58 All Jobs

Are there any cheaper, viable alternatives? What's the best Ammo slot piece you can use for SAM? I'm thinking RSE Satchet, being ELV I get a good ws piece. (STR+2)


To the OP Black Tathlum is best hands down, but it is not cheap.
Next would possibly be Ifrit's bow (maybe) but lol at getting that.
Next, Goblin Cracker, also not cheap.
Then Tiphia Sting, it is the best that is affordable.
If your not an elvaan I would suggest Lighting Bow +1 over tiphia, but if you are elvaan its not worth losing RSE ammo for WS.
Smart Gernade after that, not that great but free.
RSE ammo should be WS only since at the very least Gernade is free.


How would Goblin Cracker be better than tipiah sting?
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By Ramuh.Miemo 2009-07-01 03:59:34  
Not. :)
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