Hasty Pinion +1 Or Ginsen

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hasty pinion +1 or ginsen
 Bismarck.Vize
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By Bismarck.Vize 2014-11-13 15:53:14  
acc +10 and attack +10 vs acc +5 attack +10 store tp +3 which ammo piece to get .........

cant decide which to get and i just counted and i have +28 store tp on my war build right now with /sam sub and that doesnt count ionis
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By Sylph.Oraen 2014-11-13 15:57:28  
The loss of STP with Hasty is too large of a detriment. Ginsen should be superior
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By Zillion 2014-11-13 16:04:07  
ionis doesnt give store tp
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By Fasaga 2014-11-13 16:22:06  
I'm not sure what the rest of your set looks like, but yetshila(+1) is usually superior to both of those pieces.
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By Fasaga 2014-11-13 16:23:26  
Zillion said: »
ionis doesnt give store tp
True, but it does give a save tp effect on weaponskills which will affect x-hits.
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By Leviathan.Mckeag 2014-11-13 16:23:47  
Ginsen
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By Leviathan.Protey 2014-11-13 16:48:04  
hasty pinion +1 should only be used for things like stoneskin recast. never TP in it.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-11-13 17:12:15  
Fasaga said: »
Zillion said: »
ionis doesnt give store tp
True, but it does give a save tp effect on weaponskills which will affect x-hits.

If you aren't getting more than 10 TP back from any given WS, you're doing something very wrong. Only if your save TP value is higher than your normal return will it impact your x-hit. Outside of misers roll or Tsurumaru, it's not really worth mentioning Ionis except for the gear haste.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2014-11-13 17:20:32  
When this item came out, I never saw anything of real value to this piece, assuming you can get ginsen. I was never a fan if negative status to begin with
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-11-13 17:24:57  
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
When this item came out, I never saw anything of real value to this piece, assuming you can get ginsen. I was never a fan if negative status to begin with

Just as an example, we can use hoard ring from ~90 cap 437 delay SAM builds. Yeah, it has some -stats, but what it actually translated to was weaponskill frequency +20%. Sometimes some -stats is worth it.
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By Bahamut.Odaru 2014-11-13 19:13:59  
Pinion +1 is a recast piece at best.