Upcoming Sep Ambuscade Is For DRGs. Yay

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Upcoming Sep Ambuscade is for DRGs. Yay
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-09-01 15:23:07  
Capped dragoon with+3 legs. I'm waiting
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-09-01 15:45:12  
This shits gonna be funny.
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By Asura.Avallon 2017-09-01 15:47:17  
I have a feeling that at least on Volume 1 N-VD (particularly D and VD), if the Wyrm can do Spike Flail, it will be just like back in 2004. Dead people everywhere.
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By Bahamut.Boogerballs 2017-09-01 15:48:23  
Asura.Avallon said: »
I have a feeling that at least on Volume 1 N-VD (particularly D and VD), if the Wyrm can do Spike Flail, it will be just like back in 2004. Dead people everywhere.

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By Asura.Chiaia 2017-09-01 16:43:00  
Normally the picture they show is for V2 so who cares :/
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2017-09-01 16:45:25  
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Leviathan.Brotherhood said: »
As practice for your DRG friendly month of ambu, I suggest everyone go kill dragons in all 3 Escha zones for the next few days to practice on what it may be like, like yeah everyone on every server Drg it up /blm /blu /sam /war /drk /pld figure it out before its out and make this better than the Frog!

if anything its going to be 1 drg/nin 1 dd/nin cor/nin brd/nin geo/nin (or /mage for blink) and a whm. rather flail it and absorb than deal with gnarly breath attacks

Honestly /NIN wont be needed. I basically solo'd Quetz for my half of my 50k beads without the campaign. I stayed on his tail the whole time in a hybrid set and just spammed sonic thrust.

The damage mitigation was just rediculous. I did have Phalanx 2 as well.

50%DT+Capped AC + Habile Mazraq= Sexiness.

I also remember reading somewhere on BG that every 3 points of killer effect = -1 DT against that family.
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By Chimerawizard 2017-09-01 17:00:07  
Fenrir.Skarwind said: »
I also remember reading somewhere on BG that every 3 points of killer effect = -1 DT against that family.
If memory serves, it'd be 1/2 on regular mobs, NMs 1/3 or something. And that is with Ancient Circle active. Without it active 0 DT or damage dealt+; just intimidation.

I seem to recall when I first started the DT/dmg dealt boost was active permanently before SE decided killer traits were too powerful and nerf'd it on players.
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By Leviathan.Brotherhood 2017-09-01 17:22:46  
Fenrir.Skarwind said: »
Asura.Boogerballs said: »
Leviathan.Brotherhood said: »
As practice for your DRG friendly month of ambu, I suggest everyone go kill dragons in all 3 Escha zones for the next few days to practice on what it may be like, like yeah everyone on every server Drg it up /blm /blu /sam /war /drk /pld figure it out before its out and make this better than the Frog!

if anything its going to be 1 drg/nin 1 dd/nin cor/nin brd/nin geo/nin (or /mage for blink) and a whm. rather flail it and absorb than deal with gnarly breath attacks

Honestly /NIN wont be needed. I basically solo'd Quetz for my half of my 50k beads without the campaign. I stayed on his tail the whole time in a hybrid set and just spammed sonic thrust.

The damage mitigation was just rediculous. I did have Phalanx 2 as well.

50%DT+Capped AC + Habile Mazraq= Sexiness.

I also remember reading somewhere on BG that every 3 points of killer effect = -1 DT against that family.
Vorseals....
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By Ruaumoko 2017-09-01 17:51:29  
Pfft... I was doing endgame content and Ambuscade on DRG well before this...

Seriously though, good to see more jobs being promoted.
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By Leviathan.Brotherhood 2017-09-01 18:06:20  
Ruaumoko said: »
Pfft... I was doing endgame content and Ambuscade on DRG well before this...

Seriously though, good to see more jobs being promoted.
Video or it didnt happen!

lol Yes, Make a Video guide please.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2017-09-01 18:22:06  
Leviathan.Brotherhood said: »
Fenrir.Skarwind said: »
Asura.Boogerballs said: »
Leviathan.Brotherhood said: »
As practice for your DRG friendly month of ambu, I suggest everyone go kill dragons in all 3 Escha zones for the next few days to practice on what it may be like, like yeah everyone on every server Drg it up /blm /blu /sam /war /drk /pld figure it out before its out and make this better than the Frog!

if anything its going to be 1 drg/nin 1 dd/nin cor/nin brd/nin geo/nin (or /mage for blink) and a whm. rather flail it and absorb than deal with gnarly breath attacks

Honestly /NIN wont be needed. I basically solo'd Quetz for my half of my 50k beads without the campaign. I stayed on his tail the whole time in a hybrid set and just spammed sonic thrust.

The damage mitigation was just rediculous. I did have Phalanx 2 as well.

50%DT+Capped AC + Habile Mazraq= Sexiness.

I also remember reading somewhere on BG that every 3 points of killer effect = -1 DT against that family.
Vorseals....

How much of a damage reduction do you expect vorseals to have? Even without them the bonuses I spoke of are pretty significant.

If anything the vorseals helped my trusts survival, more than they helped my own imo.

I want to say base ja gives a 15% damage reduction, and job points may give an extra 20% reduction.

Not including dragon killer jt/gear

No idea what it caps at.

Dragonkiller/Habile look to be 30% all together. I wanna say that is another 10% reduction.
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By Leviathan.Brotherhood 2017-09-01 19:18:10  
3%-dt w/e 11/11 def 11/11 Vit 11/11 Agi + HP/MP+ regen/refresh/acc++

it may not make a whole world of diff like Abyssites and atmacite do, but the over all factors weigh enough to offset Escha vs Ambu

Not going to say you are wrong, I simply cant make that argument, just pointing out it is easier in escha with all the extra help.
Now, can suggest go take off all your vorseals and do the same fight and find out if the over all fight is just as easy fast and w/e.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2017-09-01 20:05:57  
Leviathan.Brotherhood said: »
3%-dt w/e 11/11 def 11/11 Vit 11/11 Agi + HP/MP+ regen/refresh/acc++

it may not make a whole world of diff like Abyssites and atmacite do, but the over all factors weigh enough to offset Escha vs Ambu

Not going to say you are wrong, I simply cant make that argument, just pointing out it is easier in escha with all the extra help.
Now, can suggest go take off all your vorseals and do the same fight and find out if the over all fight is just as easy fast and w/e.

I dont mind giving it a try. Finding the time is the problem. I havent been able to login much.
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By Valefor.Susake 2017-09-02 13:13:59  
The dagron *should* be V2, thats what they always tease....
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By Leviathan.Brotherhood 2017-09-02 13:20:56  
Valefor.Susake said: »
The dagron *should* be V2, thats what they always tease....
And you ruin the whole joke of a thread thanks....
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By Leviathan.Sidra 2017-09-02 14:19:46  
So while I get this is pretty much a joke/troll thread, it got me thinking, I don't actually have a perfect understanding of how Circles and killer traits, particularly from a damage perspective, work. I basically know that I pop Ancient Circle with my AF+3 legs snapshotted in, and proceed to kick Kouryu's *** with a visibly noticeable damage increase. So a few questions maybe someone knows the answer to. For all cases assume the enemy counts as a NM dragon.

1.) What is the damage increase with the circle up and a 50% bonus from snapshotted gear?

2.) How does the + killer from things like Habile Mazrak and Founder's gear impact this? Big enough to drop from a superior weapon to use on a Dragon for pure offensive purposes?

3.) Is the amount of +killer snapshotted upon circle use, or does it need to be actively worn?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Falkirk 2017-09-02 15:14:21  
Leviathan.Sidra said: »
So while I get this is pretty much a joke/troll thread, it got me thinking, I don't actually have a perfect understanding of how Circles and killer traits, particularly from a damage perspective, work. I basically know that I pop Ancient Circle with my AF+3 legs snapshotted in, and proceed to kick Kouryu's *** with a visibly noticeable damage increase.

There's a lot of good Killer effect testing by Braden here, with a Dragoon focus. iirc, his DPS spreadsheets take into account Founder's Gear and circle bonuses.

Leviathan.Sidra said: »
3.) Is the amount of +killer snapshotted upon circle use, or does it need to be actively worn?

You need to actively wear Dragon Killer+ gear.
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By Leviathan.Sidra 2017-09-02 15:21:19  
Cliff's notes: I need a line in my lua that keeps Founder's breastplate on at all times while Ancient Circle is up. I imagine I am probably late to that party...
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By Chyula 2017-09-02 15:48:20  
inb4 you must use BOOST to land normal dmg. incoming mnk/mnk!!!
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By DirectX 2017-09-04 15:36:05  
Y'all think about how to kill it first while the first thing I think of is pick up noobs spike flailing it.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mithlas 2017-09-04 15:42:22  
Where even would the best place be to farm 10 dragons for the KI?

I don't remember if the Riverne is high enough level to grant KI.
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By Leviathan.Sidra 2017-09-04 16:20:49  
Zitah Puks
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-09-04 16:23:16  
Few places comes to mind
Dragons in eschs zitah
Nauls in abyssea tahrongi
Wyverns in ifrits cauldron/abyssea grauberg
Why urghan puks or dragons
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2017-09-04 17:18:20  
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Few places comes to mind
Dragons in eschs zitah
Nauls in abyssea tahrongi
Wyverns in ifrits cauldron/abyssea grauberg
Why urghan puks or dragons


Don't Riverne Sites have EP Wyverns near the homepoints?
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By Bismarck.Indigla 2017-09-04 17:31:35  
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Few places comes to mind
Dragons in eschs zitah
Nauls in abyssea tahrongi
Wyverns in ifrits cauldron/abyssea grauberg
Why urghan puks or dragons

Thought Abyssea mobs don't count?
Also Boyahda Tree has high level puks
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By Bongarippa 2017-09-04 18:40:59  
Bismarck.Indigla said: »
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Few places comes to mind
Dragons in eschs zitah
Nauls in abyssea tahrongi
Wyverns in ifrits cauldron/abyssea grauberg
Why urghan puks or dragons

Thought Abyssea mobs don't count?
Also Boyahda Tree has high level puks

Yea theres level 105 or so puks in there. Instead of dropping down the waterfall and heading to the aery, make a left at the bottom of the waterfall and theres some crawlers and puks of that level there.