Any Idea What Causes This?

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 Cerberus.Hideka
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By Cerberus.Hideka 2020-01-15 21:31:04  


Tanks my FPS down to like 5 and i cant do ***or even lot ***lol >_>

any direction would help. ive tried turning off every single addon, and its still happening.
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By Lakshmi.Avereith 2020-01-15 22:26:06  
If I know where you are, I'm 100% sure it's the portal behind you at the zone line lagging you out. I can't recall if it's because of it being an HD mod for it that's too big or just because it's a thing that happens

try it near the zone lines/portals in the other dyna-d zones to confirm
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By Cerberus.Hideka 2020-01-15 22:34:03  
i dont think that's it. it seems to happen sporadically in any area/zone/instance/situation. its completely random.

the only graphics mods i have installed are the UI Pack for reference.
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By Valefor.Endoq 2020-01-15 22:49:41  
ps2 limitations
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By kishr 2020-01-16 03:43:41  
Play without windower see if it occurs.
Then if it does, do a file check, in Pol before you login is the button. Then try without windower again.
If it still happens it's a windows issue.
Do you have legacy checked in you add/remove advanced part of windows?
It's worth a try to figure out the issue.
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By Asura.Nebohh 2020-01-16 04:00:33  
Do you multibox by chance?
 
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By Cerberus.Hideka 2020-01-16 08:43:02  
Asura.Nebohh said: »
Do you multibox by chance?
No i'm not multiboxing.

kishr said: »
Play without windower see if it occurs.
Then if it does, do a file check, in Pol before you login is the button. Then try without windower again.
If it still happens it's a windows issue.
Do you have legacy checked in you add/remove advanced part of windows?
It's worth a try to figure out the issue.


I left the game runing over night in non-windower mode, and it didnt crash. Its definately related to windower. i did a full reinstall last weekend to try and fix it, but it didnt work.

It most commonly happens when Running any kind of console command to windower - E.g. //gs reload or //timers c triezak 7200 d.

I also get a second kind of crash, but its not as bad as i can usually warp away from it.



When this bug happens- i cant move from the spot i warp in at. it most commonly happens in miseraux coast- last night it happened in bastok mines for the first time.

kireek said: »
If you play without windower and it still happens it is possibly a driver issue (are you on a desktop or laptop?). I used to have slowdown issues around glow semi transparent textures like the lights near the mog house in windy for instance.

Hardware wise i'm using a fairly good PC; Currently I can run MHW on max settings 3k 60fps with virtually zero issues.

it feels completely random as to when it will happen. ive had it happen in sandy when someone cruises by with their bot army, ive seeni t happen when im alone out in dynamis, ive seen it happen in just about every area/instance.

i never experience any kind of visual/graphics lag/slowdown/stutter before it happens. Once it happens my FPS Tanks down to 5 FPS, all of my menus go invisible, my text logs go invisible (but they still show the auto trans brackets)

If i wait a few mins, it sometimes stops, and everything goes back to normal.

This is an extremely frustrating issue because it loves to happen when ive gotten my *** into danger lol.

My guess is its some kind of undocumented windows 10 Windower bug.
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By kishr 2020-01-16 11:49:37  
Tried making sure sure your on legacy like I said previously?
Also do a file check.
 
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By kishr 2020-01-16 11:56:38  
He won't take simple requests,
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By Asura.Aeonova 2020-01-16 12:08:34  
I can't believe this thread has been up this long without someone going here:

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By Shiva.Zerowone 2020-01-16 12:16:57  
Simple probing question based on reported issue and screenshots:

Are you using Reshade and DgVoodoo2 when playing FFXI?

Did you recently upgrade hardware? Specifically; your graphics card.
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By Cerberus.Hideka 2020-01-16 12:39:50  
kishr said: »
Tried making sure sure your on legacy like I said previously?
Also do a file check.

Havent done either- At work. Will try later. I tried everything else you've suggested.

kireek said: »
Are you using that addon that bypasses choosing warp locations?

Nope, didnt even know that existed? Whats it called incase i randomly clicked it on.

For reference - it happens about 60% of the time i enter a console command after playing longer than an hour. My guess is some kind of memory issue regarding windower. it can happen without entering a console command, but happens most commonly when i do.

Shiva.Zerowone said: »
Simple probing question based on reported issue and screenshots:

Are you using Reshade and DgVoodoo2 when playing FFXI?

Did you recently upgrade hardware? Specifically; your graphics card.

I dont think i am? I may have installed it like four years ago, but i did a reinstall last weekend and im still having the same issues.

as for hardware- no recent changes; heres my current setup
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/hideka/saved/#view=TyCJf7
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By Cerberus.Hideka 2020-01-16 12:50:40  
Asura.Aeonova said: »
I can't believe this thread has been up this long without someone going here:



It probably is at this point lmao >_>
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By Shiva.Zerowone 2020-01-16 13:01:56  
Cerberus.Hideka said: »
kishr said: »
Tried making sure sure your on legacy like I said previously?
Also do a file check.

Havent done either- At work. Will try later. I tried everything else you've suggested.

kireek said: »
Are you using that addon that bypasses choosing warp locations?

Nope, didnt even know that existed? Whats it called incase i randomly clicked it on.

For reference - it happens about 60% of the time i enter a console command after playing longer than an hour. My guess is some kind of memory issue regarding windower. it can happen without entering a console command, but happens most commonly when i do.

Shiva.Zerowone said: »
Simple probing question based on reported issue and screenshots:

Are you using Reshade and DgVoodoo2 when playing FFXI?

Did you recently upgrade hardware? Specifically; your graphics card.

I dont think i am? I may have installed it like four years ago, but i did a reinstall last weekend and im still having the same issues.

as for hardware- no recent changes; heres my current setup
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/hideka/saved/#view=TyCJf7

I had a similar issue after I upgraded my card last year. This was due to that hardware change affecting DgVoodoo2's settings.
Specifically "Memory Allocation" and "Discrete Graphics Card" were reset to default. If you're using high resolution texture packs you more than likely have it installed/sitting inside the games directory and just need to adjust the card and memory settings.
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By Cerberus.Hideka 2020-01-16 13:12:57  
got any idea of what the root would look like?

im not going to say i NEVER installed anything like that, but i could have. its been three years since i set it up on this PC.
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By stillmatic14 2020-01-16 13:38:10  
Looks to me like you may be using the Highlights add on. The one that changes the color of party members names. That add on has been glitchy for a while now. Turn that off and see if the problem goes away.
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By Shiva.Zerowone 2020-01-16 13:40:37  
Cerberus.Hideka said: »
got any idea of what the root would look like?

im not going to say i NEVER installed anything like that, but i could have. its been three years since i set it up on this PC.


For FFXI you'd find it wherever your POLBOOT.exe is.

Basically

C:\Program Files (x86)\PlayOnline\SquareEnix\FINAL FANTASY XI
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By Asura.Toralin 2020-01-16 14:47:00  
drop to console and type 'lua m' see if you see anything demolishing your resources
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By Kilobyte 2020-01-16 15:03:16  
The first issue I have ever seen when using multiple instances, which is fixed by using the Sandbox Plugin.

Both of the issues are memory related, and likely due to an addon consuming a lot of resources.
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By Cerberus.Hideka 2020-01-16 15:15:29  
Kilobyte said: »
The first issue I have ever seen when using multiple instances, which is fixed by using the Sandbox Plugin.

Both of the issues are memory related, and likely due to an addon consuming a lot of resources.

i figured that was probably the issue. i tried 90% of the stuff to troubleshoot on my own, and came here kind of a last resort after asking around yielded no results.

What is sandbox? is it in the windower addon list? or do i need to go trolling github?
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By Asura.Arico 2020-01-16 15:21:38  
Battlemod
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By Cerberus.Hideka 2020-01-16 16:31:19  
ok.

i'm on legacy.

im not using dgvoodoo or any other graphical mods

I am using battle mod.

Here is a list of all enabled plugins:

load LuaCore;
load AutoExec;
load Binder;
load Config;
load DelayMeNot;
load FFXIDB;
load FishingCrashFix;
load LightLuggage;
load SSOrganizer;
load Timers;
lua load aecho;
lua load autojoin;
lua load battlemod;
lua load cancel;
lua load ChatLink;
lua load checkparam;
lua load Clock;
lua load ConsoleBG;
lua load Debuffed;
lua load DistancePlus;
lua load dynamishelper;
lua load GearSwap;
lua load giltracker;
lua load Omen;
lua load PetTP;
lua load pointwatch;
lua load reive;
lua load rolltracker;
lua load salvage2;
lua load SpellBook;
lua load SpellCheck;
lua load TParty;
lua load VisibleFavor;
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By Cerberus.Hideka 2020-01-16 17:18:49  
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By Shiva.Thorny 2020-01-16 17:26:03  
is battlemod meant to be that heavy or is that a really bad memory leak? lol
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By Asura.Arico 2020-01-16 17:28:48  
Cerberus.Hideka said: »

Is that in Dynamis-D?

Shiva.Thorny said: »
is battlemod meant to be that heavy or is that a really bad memory leak? lol

It's a thirsty boy.



BTW Your black warp and dyna-D issues are unrelated. I used to have the black warp issue, but fixed it. I don't remember how though.
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By Cerberus.Hideka 2020-01-16 17:46:41  
no thats just port jeuno.
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By Asura.Arico 2020-01-16 18:09:38  
Cerberus.Hideka said: »
no thats just port jeuno.

Ah, okay. I'd try running dynamis without battlemods. I don't even use it anymore because it's too heavy in laggy situations.
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