Samurai Gear Advice: Back Pieces

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 Phoenix.Joz
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By Phoenix.Joz 2010-02-02 23:49:49  
Hello all!

I need a bit of advice regarding back pieces for Samurai.

I currently TP in Amemet's Mantle +1 and then I swap to Smilodon Mantle +1 for weapon skills (except for Rana, which I just keep the amemet's mantle +1 on).

I'm thinking about getting a Forager's Mantle. Should I TP and WS in a Forager's Mantle? Or should I TP in a Forager's Mantle and WS in the Smilodon Mantle +1?

Any advice will be greatly appreciated! Thanks very much!
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By Shiva.Jimmyjazz 2010-02-02 23:51:43  
I think for sams and someone I'm sure will correct me if I'm wrong but smilodon+1 for gekko, foragers for everything else?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-02-02 23:55:38  
Depends on the target. In many cases additional attack won't help Tachi: Gekko due to the massive pDIF bonus it recieves, so Forager's attack does nothing. Thus, Smilo+1 is better. On those targets that are high enough level or defense (JoL comes to mind) that you won't be capped, Forager's is definitely the superior piece.

Yuki and Kasha don't get as strong a boost, you should be ok with Forager's as a general rule for them.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-02-02 23:56:56  
Cuchulain's Mantle is a pretty cool peice too... especially if you need the accuracy... like if you using a polearm
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By Midgardsormr.Frobeus 2010-02-02 23:57:37  
Acc capped? TP in Foragers
Rana in Foragers
Y/G/K in Smi+1

Acc Not capped? TP in Cuchu
Rana in Cuchu
Y/G/K in Smi+1

Fighting something with insane def? IE Kited Kirin / JOL
TP = see above
Rana = see above
Y/G/K in Foragers
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By Shiva.Jimmyjazz 2010-02-03 00:02:14  
Frobeus always has all the right answers <3
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By Phoenix.Joz 2010-02-03 00:02:40  
Thanks for the reply guys!

Thanks Frobeus! That's exactly the answer I was looking for!
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By Pandemonium.Vincentius 2010-02-03 00:05:59  
Anything around merit level or below, you can afford to YGK in Smilodon +1.

Anything above merit level, you should Gekko in Smilo+1, but Yuki and Kasha in Cerb+1>Forager's>Amemet+1 in that order. Gekko has a higher attack bonus than the other two, making it pretty easy to cap your attack during Gekko.

For TP, you should use Cuchu if your accuracy is uncapped, Forager/Cerb+1 if capped. That's pretty much cut and dry there.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2010-02-03 00:07:08  
augment foragers

get accuracy +6
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By Bismarck.Tebryn 2010-02-03 00:08:49  
If you have limbus access, you also cannot discount Charger's mantle as an uber WS piece. Lowers ranged accuracy and ranged attack by 10 but the trade off is attack +20. Pretty sizeable boost, imo. Cost is 150 ancient beastcoins, though, twice that of Boxer's mantle. But probably worth it. This is speculation too, though, because as of this writing I've only now begun to save.
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By Pandemonium.Vincentius 2010-02-03 00:08:50  
If you're filthy rich, sure. Otherwise, I don't think it's worth it.

However, if you get a forager's with accuracy on it, don't worry about a Cuchu Mantle.
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By Pandemonium.Vincentius 2010-02-03 00:10:05  
Bismarck.Tebryn said:
If you have limbus access, you also cannot discount Charger's mantle as an uber WS piece. Lowers ranged accuracy and ranged attack by 10 but the trade off is attack 20. Pretty sizeable boost, imo. Cost is 150 ancient beastcoins, though, twice that of Boxer's mantle. But probably worth it. This is speculation too, though, because as of this writing I've only now begun to save.


No. He doesn't have Amanomurakumo, so no. STR is also a modifier for Y/K, so dropping 2/3 STR for 2-3~ attack is -NOT- worth it.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2010-02-03 00:20:42  
augment smilodon +1

get attack +4
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By Pandemonium.Vincentius 2010-02-03 00:37:45  
Go fix your "dream" polearm set. =P
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-02-03 00:44:57  
Bismarck.Tebryn said:
Charger's mantle
No.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2010-02-03 01:02:53  
pffftttt

my gearsets are so old and crap

crap crap
ive been way to lazy to remove them

hell i have a dnc h2h setup on there lmao <3
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By Pandemonium.Vincentius 2010-02-03 01:04:27  
I was gonna say >_>; You might wanna fix those, people might see you giving advice, then copy that ***. =O

The SAM polearm one made me weep though =( Please tell me that one's not real. ; ;
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2010-02-03 01:20:50  
i think i created that back before ZNM existed

hell

i could have been high when i wrote it
cause i dont even remember writing the damn thing
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By Pandemonium.Vincentius 2010-02-03 01:21:55  
I'm thinking so, lol.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2010-02-03 01:29:00  
lol oh yeah i see it now

that was before augmenting was made
damnnnnnn
lol


and i didnt know gnadbhod's existed, which i have now
if i could id switch out the neck with love torque..

why the hell there is a bushinomimi there i wont know...

my warwolf is augmented with attack +4
so i guess it is decent

but id probably swap that out with a virtuoso belt now
just cause id wanna get acc closer to cap


hachiryu are okay i suppose
maybe byakko's
shura or usukane

id have to think about that



and the hands ummmmm
depending on what we were fighting, switch between AF+1, enkidu, or usukane/noritsune

the back was before cuch existed
id probably still use foragers though since im a mithra


as far as rings i think rajas is okay
ulth.. idkk

maybe id just use an acc ring so i can put str or dex somewhere else
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2010-02-03 01:38:34  
for my dancer

im actually interested in augmenting bushido capes

trying to get acc +5 or more

i think zanshin would be nice.. and besides i dont have enough to afford cuch, so it would be better than forager's



anyways this post is unrelated for anything to do with polearm, itd be more of a tp cape
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By Pandemonium.Busterblade 2010-02-03 01:49:17  
Well we can forget w/e Dawnn is saying. Askar body on sam go.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2010-02-03 01:53:36  
Pandemonium.Busterblade said:
Well we can forget w/e Dawnn is saying. Askar body on sam go.


would you prefer my nuevo body with acc+10 da+2?
or how about my hauby?
i have all 3, each for different reasons
and i know when to use them


and if i am using askar
that means im eating sushi goddammit
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By Pandemonium.Busterblade 2010-02-03 01:55:56  
Why waste your time with sushi then?.. just eat meat and use Haub why people waste a perfect ACP body on something dumb ill never know.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2010-02-03 01:59:40  
Pandemonium.Busterblade said:
Why waste your time with sushi then?.. just eat meat and use Haub why people waste a perfect ACP body on something dumb ill never know.

its perfectly natural for people to reject things they dont understand

dont worry, little boy
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By Pandemonium.Busterblade 2010-02-03 02:02:19  
Okay :( just respond with nothing and make it sound like you know what your talking about :/ its ok. and rejecting something that sucks is normal sorry.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2010-02-03 02:03:46  
Pandemonium.Busterblade said:
Okay :( just respond with nothing and make it sound like you know what your talking about :/ its ok. and rejecting something that sucks is normal sorry.


and flaming in an advice thread is really mature

you proved yourself :D
have fun with your hauby +1
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By Pandemonium.Busterblade 2010-02-03 02:07:05  
I will Thank you.
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By Pandemonium.Vincentius 2010-02-03 02:07:22  
Askar is fine on VT and lower, if you're using Marinara Pizza +1. It's not viable for those with setups like mine though.

Also, if you have Rose Strap, there's no reason to use Askar Korazin.
Rose Strap+Ecphoria+Brutal+Rajas = Best non-usu 6-hit. End of story.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2010-02-03 02:14:56  
im so close to usu feet though

lol

like
ahhhhhhh
i have the 35's and im doing the poroggo this week to get the 100%'s

then its just spam on the boss till i can get my 25's >< chariot gahh


i kinda have a group but not really
so most of them are shout runs that turn out to be crap
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