What's The DW % Increase On Fuchingiri?

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What's the DW % increase on Fuchingiri?
 Remora.Laphine
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By Remora.Laphine 2010-02-13 16:01:40  
later then, salvage soon here^^

edit:
Let me fill in some spots quickly anyway.

I got no katana merits, my hit rate is 75%

acc 353= 52 (from dex) + 200 (skill) + 62 (skill) +39 (equip) -> 75% hit rate

my acc is pumped to 398 with crab sushi

412 acc with sushi and merits

attack base is 359
546 total with 359 + 63 (meat broke str tier) + 66 (merited minuet 4) + 58 (could be off here, merited minuet 3)

483 attack without kabob



used lv82 bird only
339 eva and 327 def

senj | perdu | fire bomblet
turban | pca | suppa | brutal
mirke (10acc dw) | dusk | snipers | rajas
amemet+1 | swift | byakko | sarutobi

mithra nin/war (cant get you dex and str right now)

I do not own a moogle hat. Sure as hell i would get a tp one for thf.
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By Diabolos.Ghlin 2010-02-13 16:26:46  
kinda going back to the OP's question, but it seems like wiki is the source of the rumor. i can't find anything else via googling. the post on blue gartr references wiki as well.

siddhart4 added it. seems that he is a brand new user. added some strange edits to the calchas page as well.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/index.php?title=Calchas&diff=1076518&oldid=1076512

and some very strange additions to a user page.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/index.php?title=User%3AArentusRemora&diff=1076451&oldid=936453

i'll stop there as i'm already pretty sure this is a prank. i sent a message to the guy 16 hours ago, and he hasn't replied.

i'll admit i didn't read this entire thread since it derailed. maybe someone already mentioned the liklihood of this being a prank. i didn't see it while skimming though. so i apologize if i'm being redundant.

ok thanks,

G


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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-02-13 16:41:10  
We'll look at w/ merits.

Your current gear base is 359, means it's 448 w/ zerk

Food is separate from zerk, so your attack after food is going to be
359+63 = 422 and 448+63 = 511

Non zerk: ((422/293)-.35)/((359/293)-.35) = 24.56% increase w/ zerk up: ((511/293)-.35)/((448/293)-.35) = 18.23% increase

Zerk is up 3/5 mins, zerk is down 2/5 mins

(3/5 x 18.23) + (2/5 x 24.56) = 20.76% average increase on 82 birds.

Before I go any further
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I got no katana merits, my hit rate is 75%

senj | perdu | fire bomblet
turban | pca | suppa | brutal
mirke (10acc dw) | dusk | snipers | rajas
amemet+1 | swift | byakko | sarutobi
With the build you posted, that's a 76% hitrate WITH merits.

Going to need clarification before I can go further.
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By Fairy.Shiyo 2010-02-13 17:40:58  
The DW thingy got removed, guess it was fake , YAY.
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By Remora.Laphine 2010-02-13 18:45:01  
indeed my set has 68% hit rate. For some reason subtracted less. Did it kinda hasty cause salvage was getting close lol.

I see you considered berserk, i forgot about that too. But you didnt consider 2x minuet. I also forgot about dia.

So indeed crab is worth more, especially for me.

Going from 68% -> 90% hit rate is 32.35% increase in dot

Considering 2x minuet + dia2 + zerk attack is going to be worth way less.

Still here is how it goes:
Attack With Kabob:
546 zerk down 655 zerk up
1.513 cratio 1.885 cratio
Attack Without Kabob:
483 zerk down 579 zerk up
1.298 cratio 1.626 cratio

1.513/1.298 * 0.4 + 1.885/1.626* 0.6 = 16.18% increase in dot by using kabob. Almost exactly half lol.

If i swap hats this increase becomes 18.45%.

Still if i ever get to 75% hit rate, the increased dot due acc boost from sushi start decreasing. Going from 75% hit rate to 95% is a 26.67% increase.

With usukane body, feet, cuch and maybe snipers+1 or toreadors. Using the tp moogle hat and kabob should be better.

Hell even if i consider my current set, tp moogle hat is better. Using sushi im still 9 acc from cap.

Going from 90.5% hit rate to 95% is a 4.97 increase.
The 2% haste on turban with 2x march and haste is 4.44% increase. Not that much of a difference in this case, but moogle is better.
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-02-14 11:07:37  
I didn't include minuet because unless you have two bards, you shouldn't have it. I'm on a better connection today so I'll finish my math when I get the chance.
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-02-14 11:11:00  
Just gotta keep in mind when you get to 75% hitrate, it also makes the gains from attack less, as when you start overcapping acc, you can remove acc gear for more attack gear in its place, so the kabob will give less attack+ in comparison.
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By Fairy.Shiyo 2010-02-15 01:46:17  
It's kind of funny how I would rather try to get a kikoku than camp this NM for the katana(if the DW did exist) because after camping gloom eye I do NOT want to attempt to do any of these new NM's with their HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE negative 4000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% drop rates.
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By Garuda.Ferigor 2010-02-16 10:13:34  
I got some help from a poster on BG's random question thread and tested Fuchingiri. From what the guy said, Senj + Fuch + Suppa will have a tp return of 4.7, so after 10 hits you will have 47 tp. I tested it out quite a few times and never came up with tp different from 47. I tried daytime, night time and under innin. It still could have 1% DW the guy said, but I'm not going to test it any further since it seems like its a dud.
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By Bismarck.Aryden 2010-02-16 13:56:08  
Bismarck.Aryden said:
Haste acc in non haste slots = win.

I am 0/14 on this one, BUT i do have some brutally nice -enmity scythe ws evoliths from it...



Got it 2 days ago. I have yet to see any difference between it and a fudo much less perdu.

Also keep in mind that it has a delay of 223, this in theory could be whats pushing you down to just under the 5/4 or 5/5 tp gain.
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By Garuda.Malicious 2010-03-31 14:18:08  
imho, the fuchingiri goes hand in hand with innin, I personally use the katana situationally in campaign battle.
I don't do dancer so I don't try to tank when I am solo. I love going up to RDMs trying to solo in The Necropolis, and quite often they disengage and grab another mob, sucks for them when I pop it on and use innin.....works almost as well as a Super Jump.....
ok, not nearly as well but it still teaches them a lesson.