[Dev] Follow-up Regarding Salvage

Full clear 2 boxed? I know a certain recent poster 2box+1 full cleared a zone

I don't know if it was full clear or not, but they killed both bosses. 2box +1 should definitely have no problem clearing all the NMs + bosses as long as you don't go on the gear slaughter side-quests I've had the misfortune of undertaking.

You have to clear all lower NMs to be able to pop both bosses, don't you? I haven't been following everything on BG, but of our two BR runs, the first time we skipped one NM and killed everything else, and only got 1nm, and 2nd we killed everything and got nq and HQ cerb

I'm convinced the sub-boss pop condition is killing the named chariot on the 6th floor. That aside, even 2 box, if you know how to pop things killing all the NMs is easy, they aren't very threatening.

We def killed the named chariot and didn't get the NQ to pop

I'm not sure then, even so, popping most of the NMs seems pretty simple. We timed out on the HQ boss in Ara II because we bothered to kill all 30 triple gears on Floor 5 <.>

Dose anyone else think Camate uses exclamation marks incorrectly too often?

If I have read all the info correctly, then in order to get the +1 gear (which is the better of the two new sets???), you need to have the completed piece from previous salvage. Even if the new content is fairly easy to complete with few players, the time it will take to start from scratch to get the 15, 25, 35, 45, and 15-50 (I think I read somewhere) of the upgrade items still might make the gear somewhat difficult (time consuming- not to get into that argument) to obtain. For those who have the completed items already, some time is saved (and rightfully so imo- even though they have nerfed drop rates and it is obviously easier at 99).

I don't know, I did a lot of Salvage at 75 and spent a lot of time and gil just for my Morrigan's Robe (took like 9 months for 3 of us to get when that was the ONLY goal). Of course I also got some random pieces here and there for other items, so I am not saying 9 months of work went into just the 3 Morrigan's pieces. After the 85ish cap, I started to do Salvage pretty much every day with the goal of getting 5/5 of all 5 sets. For 2 reasons, 1. Completion of my favorite event and 2. In preparation for the day that Salvage 2.0 would enter my life (in hopes that the best gear would be upgrades of the completed pieces). With a max TH THF I am still one piece short (Ares head 35).

All that being said, I really don't know what to think now. I can't wait to delve into the new Salvage, but will I think it is too easy? Too hard? Is 50 (or however many you need for a +1 body) upgrade items too much? Too few? Is the idea of these upgrade items stupid? I have so many questions and have not yet stepped foot in 2.0.

I guess the point of this post is to announce my excitement, and the fact that I feel that maybe some of the complaints are not warranted (again, SOME). I wonder how many people complaining about it never even stepped in Salvage 1.0. I wonder how many people who did Salvage 1.0 casually are upset because they don't have the completed gear for the +1s they want. Hell, on the same token, I wonder how many people had 5/5 before all the nerfs and are upset because now to get the +1s, all you need to do is breeze through the content and put a little time in. Maybe not many people fall into this category. I know personally one player who quit after they added the battle augments such that you could get a Genie Weskit that was better for nukes than Morrigan's Robe (and iirc it was actually just the NQ Weskit).

My rant may be pointless on most levels and to most people. But all I really want to say is that I am pumped for this new Salvage, and that I have been preparing for this pretty much since Magian Trials came out and SE said they planned on allowing augments or upgrades to "our most prized gear." I hope I got that quote correct. Anyway, good luck to those doing the content, and sorry to those who thought it would be something different. I am just happy they are allowing us to upgrade our current gear. That stuff took me ages to get.

Highly dependent on piece and job you're looking to use it for. Some of the newer set items are pretty decent as well, but yes you have it correct (old salvage item + 45 piece + lots of papers + coins = salvage+1)

Thats depressing. If I came back I certainly wouldnt want to go do old salvage -_-

Old Salvage is a joke now, you walk out with at least 1 35 unless the zone is called Bhaflau Remnants then you get kicked in the balls and laughed at.

so if you needed the usu feet....

Still going to be praying to the RNG gods to spawn bees. If you happen to get the bees however you'll prolly get the 35 feets.

They could have done whatever they wanted to make it challenging to acquire gear without it being even remotely related to Old Salvage, just like they did with NNI. Pretty much at a loss for words atm.

That Bee pop is still such a pain, 45 on first Neo salvage run and still no 35 /rage.

Loving the 45 from boss/paper system, relatively easy to to Trio too can't see most people having a problem with the zones.

12-18-2012 07:04 AM [BG source] [JP source]
Slycer BG Translator		Regarding Salvage I spoke with the staff responsible for Salvage regarding future adjustment plans. The result of our talk was that we plan to make adjustments to increase the drop rates for equipment obtained in the previous Salvage (Lv 35~). Additionally, for Bhaflau Remnants (also known as "Bhafknock"*), in addition to the adjustment above, we're also planning to change it so that the equipment drops from monsters other than the original NMs. Increased occurrences of NMs would affect the alexandrite yield (since cotton coinpurses drop in addition to the higher drop rate equipment), but we plan to make this adjustment in such a way that it will increase the chance for you to get the equipment that you're looking for. {{*Apparently this is some JP nickname given to Bhaflau, assumedly because of the ramparts. I never heard it before so I'm just guessing on the translation, but that makes sense.}} Translated by: Slycer
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alittle late no?

The game moves too fast for anything to be a challenge.

I'm just excited to be close to upgrading to Skadi body +1 on dancer. I do like my town gear.

Even if the gear is incrementally better or even sub par, I'm going to do it because it's fun!

DIE CELLS DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE!!

Sorry. Some updates are good.

Whats the most skadi plans you're getting each run? Max ive managed is 8. At 20/45 in 3 runs of AR.

I didn't start playing this game until just a couple years ago. I've been fairly proud of myself for completing all the city missions to get to Rank 10. I've done all the Rise of the Zilart missions, Chains of Promathia, Wings of the Goddess, etc etc. The only expansion that I never really did much in was Treasures of Aht Urghan because nothing from there was particularly useful for the jobs I play.

With Salvage v2.0, there are a few upgrades now. However, with 0 assault points and no salvage experience whatsoever, it looks like I have a long LONG road ahead of me.

Tbh Salvage is very simple, just get 2 ppl to do an assault and blitz through it, at 99 they're a joke.

Salvage is easy, get a few good peeps, decide who has priority for weapon / ja unlocks etc stick to it and just zerg fest the ***out of it. Using the routes shown on wiki.

You don't know how tough it is to actually keep the static alive for this <.<

Only a few special requirements needed for a few NM's but you can erad up on those fairly simple.

Really? Because my ls has like 20 people constantly asking about assaults / salvage x.x

Everyone says they want to do assaults, then one week later no one shows up anymore.

SADFACE. I am one of those Q_Qer's that see this and think it's easy and that old Salvage gear was truly persevered for. I don't mind the new content, I just wish the sacred salvage was tougher and the gear rare and harder to get. I guess that's what Seekers is for.

Don't get me wrong, the mobs etc bosses are easy, but I've only seen 2 items drop :/

And the devs feel this would be a problem, because...?

Because then we could be like MYTHIC WHM'S ONRY for VW.

Can't have mythics be reasonably obtainable. Overpriced Alex bring their trump card to keep one thing out of reach for most people. You'd think mythics were the best for every or even many jobs the way they defend the time investment in them.