FFXIAH Linkshell Ni

Eorzea Time
 
 
 
言語: JP EN FR DE
日本語版のFFXIVPRO利用したい場合は、上記の"JP"を設定して、又はjp.ffxivpro.comを直接に利用してもいいです
users online
フォーラム » Everything Else » Undead » FFXIAH Linkshell Ni
FFXIAH Linkshell Ni
First Page 2 3 ... 18300 18301 18302 ... 18549 18550 18551
 Shiva.Nikolce
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Nikolce
Posts: 20130
By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-03-23 13:48:07  
Asura.Lolserj said: »
I'm a ***

yeah me too.
[+]
 Asura.Lolserj
Offline
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: Andras
Posts: 2956
By Asura.Lolserj 2017-03-23 13:49:32  
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Shiva.Spathaian said: »
So it's purely religiously significant to you?

No. there are no loopholes in my marraige. I think it's a either promise that can't be broken. or you just shouldn't do it. In a weird your word is your bond and if you don't keeo your word you aren't a man type of deal.

when you think about, in a "traditional wedding" you make a promise to your wife, her father, the rest of her family, all of your family and everyone else you invited which may or may not include "god"

not to be a douchebag

you're going to love honor and cherish her until you die no matter what.

and sure, that can mean different things to different people so you should probably lay out all the ground rules beforehand so everyone has a clear understanding of the deal

I guess technically the loophole here might be killing your spouse
 Shiva.Spathaian
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Spathaian
Posts: 27982
By Shiva.Spathaian 2017-03-23 13:50:26  
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Shiva.Spathaian said: »
So it's purely religiously significant to you?

No. there are no loopholes in my marraige. I think it's a either promise that can't be broken. or you just shouldn't do it. In a weird your word is your bond and if you don't keeo your word you aren't a man type of deal.

when you think about, in a "traditional wedding" you make a promise to your wife, her father, the rest of her family, all of your family and everyone else you invited which may or may not include "god"

not to be a douchebag

you're going to love honor and cherish her until you die no matter what.

and sure, that can mean different things to different people so you should probably lay out all the ground rules beforehand so everyone has a clear understanding of the deal
But here is where it gets hairy for me. Most if not all divorces I've been witness to have occurred because the bolded did not happen which is why I had issue with your previous comment.

One of the partners was not cherished or honored and had not been for multiple years.

Does that not constitute a breaking of word and contract and therefore make a divorce the right option?

Where do you draw the line?
 Shiva.Nikolce
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Nikolce
Posts: 20130
By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-03-23 13:50:52  
Asura.Lolserj said: »
I guess technically the loophole here might be killing your spouse

no I would have to kill myself. that's when the contract ends.
[+]
 Asura.Lolserj
Offline
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: Andras
Posts: 2956
By Asura.Lolserj 2017-03-23 13:51:44  
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Asura.Lolserj said: »
I'm a ***

yeah me too.

It made my mom leaving my dad much easier

To be honest (at the time) he deserved it. He is a better man now, but definitely did not always have his ***together (thanks alcoholism)
 Asura.Dameshi
Forum Moderator
Bug Hunter
Offline
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: dameshi
Posts: 29745
By Asura.Dameshi 2017-03-23 13:53:35  
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Asura.Lolserj said: »
I guess technically the loophole here might be killing your spouse

no I would have to kill myself. that's when the contract ends.
[+]
 Shiva.Nikolce
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Nikolce
Posts: 20130
By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-03-23 13:55:27  
Shiva.Spathaian said: »
Does that not constitute a breaking of word and contract and therefore make a divorce the right option?

My word to be loyal honest faithfull etc is irregardless to the other person's behavior which you can't control anyways.

It would be dumb, I think, to make a promise if you have no intention of keeping it if the other person gets ill, as one example
 Asura.Lolserj
Offline
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: Andras
Posts: 2956
By Asura.Lolserj 2017-03-23 13:56:32  
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Asura.Lolserj said: »
I guess technically the loophole here might be killing your spouse

no I would have to kill myself. that's when the contract ends.

So if your wife were to die would you never remarry or attempt to find love again?
 Asura.Lolserj
Offline
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: Andras
Posts: 2956
By Asura.Lolserj 2017-03-23 13:58:51  
I mean, I think of marriage as a contract to hopefully be married ubtil someone dies

But realistically that isn't always the case, believing otherwise is honestly foolish

***happens, sometimes another person with your spouse in bed included
 Asura.Lolserj
Offline
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: Andras
Posts: 2956
By Asura.Lolserj 2017-03-23 13:59:44  
Nothing against people who have an arrangement with their spouse to freely see other people
 Shiva.Nikolce
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Nikolce
Posts: 20130
By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-03-23 14:00:00  
most people, when they think about the future, only think about the good parts. the happilly ever after.

my wife could pull a britney spears, shave her head bald, get strung out on crystal meth and bone everyone in range.

that doesn't change my promise. and that's what I'm saying.

If the other person's behavior can influence your side of the deal than it isn't a real deal to begin with
[+]
 Shiva.Nikolce
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Nikolce
Posts: 20130
By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-03-23 14:00:47  
Asura.Lolserj said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Asura.Lolserj said: »
I guess technically the loophole here might be killing your spouse

no I would have to kill myself. that's when the contract ends.

So if your wife were to die would you never remarry or attempt to find love again?

correct. you can take my wedding ring off my cold dead hand
[+]
 Shiva.Nikolce
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Nikolce
Posts: 20130
By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-03-23 14:02:32  
Asura.Lolserj said: »
Nothing against people who have an arrangement with their spouse to freely see other people

No exactly. That's their deal. If that is what marraige means to them and they sorted all that out before hand, super.

i
[+]
 Shiva.Spathaian
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Spathaian
Posts: 27982
By Shiva.Spathaian 2017-03-23 14:02:39  
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
most people, when they think about the future, only think about the good parts. the happilly ever after.

my wife could pull a britney spears, shave her head bald, get strung out on crystal meth and bone everyone in range.

that doesn't change my promise. and that's what I'm saying.

If the other person's behavior can influence your side of the deal than it isn't a real deal to begin with
That's not just their behavior influencing your side though, that is blatant breech of trust and breaking of your contract unless you have already spoken and agreed upon the ability to go outside the relationship.
Administrator
Offline
サーバ: Excalibur
Game: FFXIV
user: Rooks
Posts: 665
By Idiot Boy 2017-03-23 14:03:33  
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
correct. you can take my wedding ring off my cold dead hand

I think a lot of people don't really understand what "married" is supposed to mean

Including a fair number of married people, really
[+]
 Asura.Lolserj
Offline
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: Andras
Posts: 2956
By Asura.Lolserj 2017-03-23 14:04:09  
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
most people, when they think about the future, only think about the good parts. the happilly ever after.

my wife could pull a britney spears, shave her head bald, get strung out on crystal meth and bone everyone in range.

that doesn't change my promise. and that's what I'm saying.

If the other person's behavior can influence your side of the deal than it isn't a real deal to begin with

Love them or not, if I get married and they try to kill me that ***is getting shut down. No exceptions
 Shiva.Nikolce
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Nikolce
Posts: 20130
By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-03-23 14:05:24  
Idiot Boy said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
correct. you can take my wedding ring off my cold dead hand

I think a lot of people don't really understand what "married" is supposed to mean

Including a fair number of married people, really

hey some people get married because they need a new toaster, and I couldn't be forced to give a ***at gunpoint.

all I'm saying is KNOW WHAT YOU ARE AGREEING TO
[+]
 Shiva.Spathaian
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Spathaian
Posts: 27982
By Shiva.Spathaian 2017-03-23 14:05:28  
Asura.Lolserj said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
most people, when they think about the future, only think about the good parts. the happilly ever after.

my wife could pull a britney spears, shave her head bald, get strung out on crystal meth and bone everyone in range.

that doesn't change my promise. and that's what I'm saying.

If the other person's behavior can influence your side of the deal than it isn't a real deal to begin with

Love them or not, if I get married and they try to kill me that ***is getting shut down. No exceptions
They're just trying to fulfill the contract, yo.

They've got places to be!
 Asura.Lolserj
Offline
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: Andras
Posts: 2956
By Asura.Lolserj 2017-03-23 14:06:21  
Idiot Boy said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
correct. you can take my wedding ring off my cold dead hand

I think a lot of people don't really understand what "married" is supposed to mean

Including a fair number of married people, really

I mean "married" means to you what it means to you, of marriage is a contract that can be voided to you that's fine

If not it is also fine, but I personally find that crazy
 Asura.Dameshi
Forum Moderator
Bug Hunter
Offline
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: dameshi
Posts: 29745
By Asura.Dameshi 2017-03-23 14:06:29  
Idiot Boy said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
correct. you can take my wedding ring off my cold dead hand

I think a lot of people don't really understand what "married" is supposed to mean

Including a fair number of married people, really
Teach me what love means, Uncle Rooks.

No seriously, I'm a bit confused. Does it mean zero or is tennis lying to me... again...
[+]
Administrator
Offline
サーバ: Excalibur
Game: FFXIV
user: Rooks
Posts: 665
By Idiot Boy 2017-03-23 14:08:32  
Asura.Dameshi said: »
Teach me what love means, Uncle Rooks.

No seriously, I'm a bit confused. Does it mean zero or is tennis lying to me... again...

We aren't talking about love

We are talking about marriage

Do try to keep up, your Majesty
[+]
 Shiva.Nikolce
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Nikolce
Posts: 20130
By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-03-23 14:08:35  
Shiva.Spathaian said: »
that is blatant breech of trust and breaking of your contract

it's not though. again if they break their side that's their problem.

If I promise you that I am going to do something until I die.

and then quit for any reason other than dying.

then what was the point of the promise?
[+]
 Shiva.Spathaian
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Spathaian
Posts: 27982
By Shiva.Spathaian 2017-03-23 14:10:51  
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Shiva.Spathaian said: »
that is blatant breech of trust and breaking of your contract

it's not though. again if they break their side that's their problem.

If I promise you that I am going to do something until I die.

and then quit for any reason other than dying.

then what was the point of the promise?
So what you're saying is it's not a shared contract, each person within the marriage makes their own and their only requirement is to uphold the one they made, they are not to care about their partner's?
 Asura.Dameshi
Forum Moderator
Bug Hunter
Offline
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: dameshi
Posts: 29745
By Asura.Dameshi 2017-03-23 14:11:39  
Idiot Boy said: »
Asura.Dameshi said: »
Teach me what love means, Uncle Rooks.

No seriously, I'm a bit confused. Does it mean zero or is tennis lying to me... again...

We aren't talking about love

We are talking about marriage

Do try to keep up, your Majesty
*sits down while releasing a long, drawn out sigh and wiping sweat from his brow*
PARKER I'm going to need a full intelligence briefing on this "marriage" topic. Talk slowly and start from the top. But first answer me one question. Is "marriage" contagious? Should we be contacting the CDC?
[+]
 Shiva.Spathaian
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Spathaian
Posts: 27982
By Shiva.Spathaian 2017-03-23 14:12:41  
Asura.Dameshi said: »
Idiot Boy said: »
Asura.Dameshi said: »
Teach me what love means, Uncle Rooks.

No seriously, I'm a bit confused. Does it mean zero or is tennis lying to me... again...

We aren't talking about love

We are talking about marriage

Do try to keep up, your Majesty
*sits down while releasing a long, drawn out sigh and wiping sweat from his brow*
PARKER I'm going to need a full intelligence briefing on this "marriage" topic. Talk slowly and start from the top. But first answer me one question. Is "marriage" contagious? Should we be contacting the CDC?
From my reports, marriage is as contagious as pregnancy.

Quarantine yourself.
[+]
 Shiva.Nikolce
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Nikolce
Posts: 20130
By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-03-23 14:17:11  
Shiva.Spathaian said: »
So what you're saying is it's not a shared contract, each person within the marriage makes their own and their only requirement is to uphold the one they made, they are not to care about their partners?

I told my wife that even if she kicks me out of the house, divorces me (which anyone can legally do) and marries another guy, (which don't even get me started on second marraiges) and/or tries to kill me for the insurance money.

I still wont ever take my ring off.

My side of the agreement isn't dependant on anyone else's actions or inactions. She could fall into a coma ans stay there forty years, die in childbirth, IT DOESN"T MATTER

you can't figure a way out of it. I already thought of every concievable possibility.
[+]
Forum Moderator
Offline
サーバ: Excalibur
Game: FFXIV
user: AnnaMolly
Posts: 25981
By Anna Ruthven 2017-03-23 14:19:52  
I have a new found respect for Niko and I'm not sure how I feel about this.
 Asura.Lolserj
Offline
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: Andras
Posts: 2956
By Asura.Lolserj 2017-03-23 14:19:57  
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Idiot Boy said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
correct. you can take my wedding ring off my cold dead hand

I think a lot of people don't really understand what "married" is supposed to mean

Including a fair number of married people, really

hey some people get married because they need a new toaster, and I couldn't be forced to give a ***at gunpoint.

all I'm saying is KNOW WHAT YOU ARE AGREEING TO

Again, this really depends on a person's definition of marriage
 Ragnarok.Hevans
Offline
サーバ: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
user: Hev
Posts: 15273
By Ragnarok.Hevans 2017-03-23 14:21:33  
*walks in to thread*

*reads one sentence*

nope

*walks out*
[+]
 Asura.Lolserj
Offline
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: Andras
Posts: 2956
By Asura.Lolserj 2017-03-23 14:22:36  
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Shiva.Spathaian said: »
So what you're saying is it's not a shared contract, each person within the marriage makes their own and their only requirement is to uphold the one they made, they are not to care about their partners?

I told my wife that even if she kicks me out of the house, divorces me (which anyone can legally do) and marries another guy, (which don't even get me started on second marraiges) and/or tries to kill me for the insurance money.

I still wont ever take my ring off.

My side of the agreement isn't dependant on anyone else's actions or inactions. She could fall into a coma ans stay there forty years, die in childbirth, IT DOESN"T MATTER

you can't figure a way out of it. I already thought of every concievable possibility.

And that is completely fine, but don't fault someone else for having a different opinion on how much commitment is required for their marriage
First Page 2 3 ... 18300 18301 18302 ... 18549 18550 18551