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 Valefor.Ivaan
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By Valefor.Ivaan 2010-03-23 14:44:49  
maxz im doing scythe too but i didnt see 110 dmg o.o maybe i didnt check the right path how does what your saying work?
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By Ragnarok.Skiutah 2010-03-23 14:47:04  
Ramuh.Krizz said:
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I can't remember the combination, but I know the end trial was 437 and it was a 99 DMG Oathkeeper.
430 - 431 - 432 - 433 - 434 - 435 - 436 - 437 - Oathkeeper: DMG 12

Edit: Link to post on BG that has the polearms.
Yeah, after I posted that I went to check what the order would need to be.

Pretty simple actually. >.<
 
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2010-03-23 15:07:13  
Caitsith.Shiroi said:
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a magi upgraded 1 is 110 dmg and with hidden effect it can be 220 dmg

It's apocalypse, it can now go up to 110 dmg and it has low chances of dealing x2 dmg ...
There's also this one:
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Scythe:
Ultimatum: 512>513>514>515>516>517>518>519

DMG:93 Delay: 528
Augment: DMG+12
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By Nikashi 2010-03-23 15:07:55  
Anyone try doing the 'kill x mobs under weather effect' with a SCH helping you out? That'd probably make ***easier if the kills counted under the effect of -storm spells.
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2010-03-23 15:09:16  
Nikashi said:
Anyone try doing the 'kill x mobs under weather effect' with a SCH helping you out? That'd probably make ***easier if the kills counted under the effect of -storm spells.
You posted that on BG as well, didn't you? Hope someone can answer that and the level sync question soon.
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By Nikashi 2010-03-23 15:10:02  
Ramuh.Krizz said:
Nikashi said:
Anyone try doing the 'kill x mobs under weather effect' with a SCH helping you out? That'd probably make ***easier if the kills counted under the effect of -storm spells.
You posted that on BG as well, didn't you? Hope someone can answer that and the level sync question soon.

Was heading to BG next.
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2010-03-23 15:19:06  
Nikashi said:
Ramuh.Krizz said:
Nikashi said:
Anyone try doing the 'kill x mobs under weather effect' with a SCH helping you out? That'd probably make ***easier if the kills counted under the effect of -storm spells.
You posted that on BG as well, didn't you? Hope someone can answer that and the level sync question soon.

Was heading to BG next.
Just found this post:
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SCH Weather Effects do not work for the "Kill under this weather" quests.

Just tested it, Sadly SE is insane enough to make us find a EP or higher mob in a specific family/zone during specific weather...
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By Carbuncle.Maxz 2010-03-23 15:24:32  
start on trial 512 and stayu on the 1 path it should be upgrade att3 att7 att10 new wepon att3 att7 att10 then a split decision will happen choose top trial and u get dmg3 dmg7 dmg10 i think and the 110 dmg i mentionted was for apoco upgrade we can get 105 on magi scytthe
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By Carbuncle.Maxz 2010-03-23 15:26:02  
also if u are campin these nms you can alliamnce up to 18ppl kill and everyone gets the kill so teamwork is very great here and not being a greedy jack
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-23 15:29:15  
Wonder which dmg they use as far as fstr caps and such
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2010-03-23 15:30:39  
Carbuncle.Maxz said:
start on trial 512 and stayu on the 1 path it should be upgrade att3 att7 att10 new wepon att3 att7 att10 then a split decision will happen choose top trial and u get dmg3 dmg7 dmg10 i think and the 110 dmg i mentionted was for apoco upgrade we can get 105 on magi scytthe
Please work on how you word your post. Also, exact path numbers are preferred to eliminate confusion and make things easier on folks.
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By Carbuncle.Maxz 2010-03-23 15:41:35  
yea my bad on the wall of txt but just stick the the one path and u can achive the 105 dmg :)
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2010-03-23 15:45:57  
Carbuncle.Maxz said:
yea my bad on the wall of txt but just stick the the one path and u can achive the 105 dmg :)
Yeah, that's what my post from above was for. Actually gave the path for people to make sure they understood. We all know how some people need their hands held on these things.

Ramuh.Krizz said:
There's also this one:
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Scythe:
Ultimatum: 512>513>514>515>516>517>518>519

DMG:93 Delay: 528
Augment: DMG 12
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By Carbuncle.Maxz 2010-03-23 15:47:55  
yea im campin the nm right now lol so i just punched in what the upgrade order was but 1 more bat and my 1st upgrade is done yaay :D
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By Lakshmi.Holman 2010-03-23 15:52:54  
Man these Ws's are killing me for polearm. I miss like shaq at the free throw line.
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By Valefor.Ivaan 2010-03-23 16:11:22  
so 512--->19 equals 105dmg on a scythe. I just found this.

if you go 526-->531 you get a dmg 97 attack +15 str +4 delay minus 15 scythe.

thats interesting
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By Lakshmi.Holman 2010-03-23 16:13:53  
Its delay + not minus I think.
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By Siren.Talonn 2010-03-23 16:14:24  
So far only tier 3 weapons have been released based on .dat mine records. There is currently no way to reach the final stages of the weapons we are currently working on.
IE (sword cannot reach Soulsaber yet)
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By Valefor.Ivaan 2010-03-23 16:18:24  
It is delay minus 15 on the scythe
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2010-03-23 16:20:22  
Hmm... club decision time.
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Path: 710 > 718 > 720
Reward:
Goedendag:
DMG29, 300 Delay
+20DMG, +40 Delay
Occ. atk. twice

or
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Path: 724 > 725 > 726 > 728
Reward:
Ingrimm:
DMG20, 216 Delay
+17DMG, -6 Delay
+4 STR, +12 Attack

or
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Path: 724 > 725 > 726 > 730
Reward:
Ingrimm:
DMG20, 216 Delay
+18DMG
Add. Eff.: Weakens atk. +10
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By Fairy.Darkei 2010-03-24 08:06:39  
QUESTION:

anyone try if the scholar weather have effect? I don't have a good mate for wait to kill 100 mobs but i'm courius about this.
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2010-03-24 08:07:25  
Fairy.Darkei said:
QUESTION:

anyone try if the scholar weather have effect? I don't have a good mate for wait to kill 100 mobs but i'm courius about this.
Doesn't work.
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2010-03-24 08:23:27  
For those that aren't aware, the wiki page has been updated to include a lot more information over the last 18 or so hours. This includes subsections for most of the weapons/paths/etc.
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_the_Magians
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-24 09:01:37  
Is it just me or the augments on alot of the last tier of weapons generally not as good for DDing as the tier II ones with there double attack or really high dmg?
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By Odin.Blazza 2010-03-24 09:11:03  
There's one thing I don't get here, and I'll open the floor for interpretation.

Each type of weapon has two different double attack choices. Using sword as an example you have: (total stats)

DMG: 40 Delay: 266 - occasionally attacks twice
or
DMG: 23 Delay: 264 - occasionally attacks twice

No I dunno about you guys, but I'm pretty damn sure which one I'd take, and it's the same for every weapon type, so it makes me wonder, what if these aren't the final forms at all? Perhaps when the next Magian update is released these weapons will be able to be upgraded further. This means that whatever path follows off the lower DMG of the two weapons could turn out to be a much better option.

What do you all think? Why would you have the choice between the two when they're so far different in damage and have no other stats?
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By Bismarck.Osaia 2010-03-24 09:18:14  
Here's what I've learned. SCH weather effects DON'T count. You can get pts while Level Sync'd. To obtain points you just have to be on the mobs hate list. Even if you don't kill it does not matter. I got a trio of drg, and we all pulled a Marsh Murre (Caedaeva Mire is a good place for Bird kills, DARK/WATER/LIGHTNING weather there), and each solo'd a bird. I simply dia'd the other 2 drg's birds and they in turn dia mine and when the birds dropped, you get 3 kill points, I imagine using diaga would be feasible if no other mobs are in range. Weather in mire doesn't last long, so this is best done with a group.
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2010-03-24 09:18:26  
Odin.Blazza said:
There's one thing I don't get here, and I'll open the floor for interpretation.

Each type of weapon has two different double attack choices. Using sword as an example you have: (total stats)

DMG: 40 Delay: 266 - occasionally attacks twice
or
DMG: 23 Delay: 264 - occasionally attacks twice

No I dunno about you guys, but I'm pretty damn sure which one I'd take, and it's the same for every weapon type, so it makes me wonder, what if these aren't the final forms at all? Perhaps when the next Magian update is released these weapons will be able to be upgraded further. This means that whatever path follows off the lower DMG of the two weapons could turn out to be a much better option.

What do you all think? Why would you have the choice between the two when they're so far different in damage and have no other stats?

I agree with you that there's a chance for that. However, I also think that SE wanted to give options for those that prefer solo play or don't have huge groups for the new NMs.
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By Odin.Kalico 2010-03-24 09:20:50  
Well the higher damage option you need to beat a teir 3 VNM which takes a full ally to kill @ lv 75.To get the low damage final version you have to kill a certain amount of regular mobs ep's i think, so its way easier. and yeah they probably will let you further upgrade them.