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By Inuyasha 2011-08-31 22:52:18  
note: i want these spells...too bad i might have to fight some omfgpowerfulawesuomeevilemonst-oh wait....itll be buyable from the SCHNPC in eldieme_s...like every other spell :/

but seiously though, i will have babies with embrava...and even more with Kuastra..cause that stuff is good...and i mean REALLY GOOD....

why did i buy Regen III, Adloquium,and Haste again?
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-08-31 22:55:36  
Inuyasha said: »
why did i buy Regen III, Adloquium,and Haste again?
because it stacks?
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By Inuyasha 2011-08-31 22:58:39  
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
Inuyasha said: »
why did i buy Regen III, Adloquium,and Haste again?
because it stacks?
prolly...i also remember having extreme OCD with spells....i like that full list...anyway /derail end

ninja edit~: IT DOES ._. 0_0 O_O O_O *_*!

its gunna be fun using my unlimited charges to nuke things with two high damage DoTs and then Blizzard V<3
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-08-31 23:02:05  
btw wolf, is there a way to run windower if you dont have a 2nd account?
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-08-31 23:15:32  
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
btw wolf, is there a way to run windower if you dont have a 2nd account?
Not to the best of my knowledge :|
I just used the work around using a 2nd account, even then there were a few mishaps like my window was really small and was surrounded by blackness etc, it just sucks
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-08-31 23:38:08  
gay ~_~
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By Bahamut.Arioch 2011-09-01 17:24:37  
Did some more testing with Embrava and these are the TP gains I came up with:

5 - 1230 MP 413 Skill
4 - 1228 MP 381 Skill
4/5 - 2150 MP 381/398 Skill
5/6 - 2150/9999 MP 413 Skill

This definitely shows that skill and MP play a factor. MP seems to cause it to have 2 different tick amounts while enhancing skill is a constant tick.

Edit: Went back when I saw I didn't use 381 skill with 2150 MP, came back with the same results 4/5.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-09-02 15:37:06  
Small update on Embrava and Kaustra today:

09-02-2011 03:28 PM
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We have made a couple of changes based on player feedback.
  • The skill level necessary to produce more potent Haste/Regen effects in Embrava have been reduced

    *With these changes, you'll notice a more potent effect

  • The DoT damage for Kaustra increased

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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-09-02 16:12:54  
very good news, know if this has been implemented on the test server yet?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Brayenn 2011-09-02 16:15:48  
Going by all the recent post made just now i think all these changes are reflected on the test servers, get back to testing !! /waits in anticipation
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-02 16:28:22  
Quetzalcoatl.Brayenn said: »
Going by all the recent post made just now i think all these changes are reflected on the test servers, get back to testing !! /waits in anticipation
Updating right now on my laptop qqqqqqqqqqqq
I have my sch enhancing set on me i think on there and everything D:
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By Mischief 2011-09-02 17:02:09  
Just tested Embrava.

With 405 Enhancing magic skill: 58 HP/tick Regen, 5 TP/tick Regain. For haste...Reraise recast went down from 50 seconds (Light Arts) to 36 seconds. Swapping in Augur's Gloves for AF3+2 hands (410 enhancing), regen went up to 59/tick. Will test Kaustra in a second.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-02 17:07:07  
Ohgod
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2011-09-02 17:10:38  
Embrava is the better spell of the two.
Also, holy ***, that's a ton of haste right there

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Mischief said: »
Holy freaking ***. Did Kaustra on Mangy-tailed Marvin in Abyssea, dark skill at 415. Initial damage was 1463, taking him to 97%, and then the DoT took him to 39% before it wore, doing I'd say ~1.4% per tick. They buffed it lol.
What the f?
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By Mischief 2011-09-02 17:15:24  
Holy freaking ***. Did Kaustra on Mangy-tailed Marvin in Abyssea, dark skill at 415. Initial damage was 1463, taking him to 97%, and then the DoT took him to 39% before it wore, doing I'd say ~1.4% per tick. They buffed it lol.

EDIT: When the DoT wore off it said "Mangy-tailed Marvin is no longer Kaustra", which I take to mean it stacks with all other DoTs.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-02 17:27:00  
it does
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By Bahamut.Mischief 2011-09-02 19:44:23  
Ok...tried Kaustra again, this time outside Abyssea. Target was Ogbunabali (T2 Voidawtch NM in Shakhrami). Turns out his pathing goes to ***around the bones on the edge of his pop area. Anyway, Kaustra base damage was 689, taking him to 98%. The Kaustra DoT took him to 86% before it wore off. For comparison, a Thunder IV that did 1844 did 3%, probably close to 4%. Same dark magic skill as the Kaustra in abyssea.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-03 00:51:04  
I just figured I'd see what I could do with Embrava before I head to bed. With 440 enhancing skill, it reduced Klimaform to 1:53 recast with dark arts up, or 113 seconds. Seeing as how the natural recast is 3:00, this put it at 62.7778% of the natural recast of Klimaform with dark arts up. Assuming dark arts is a 10% recast reduction, this would leave it at 72.7778% recast reduction without it, or in other words, Embrava at 440 skill provided roughly 27%~ haste.



To confirm dark art's 10% recast reduction, without embrava the recast was simply 2:42, or 162 seconds, exactly 90% of a 180 second recast.
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGH

Note this test was performed as /whm and castings of Klimaform were done completely naked after Embrava was applied
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-03 00:57:02  
Also the embrava at 440 skill provided a still 5tp/tic regain and a 62hp/tic regen
ohgoddddddddd
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By Odin.Minefield 2011-09-03 00:57:19  
+1...that snake is just precious, also that information is great news. :D
Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: »
ohgoddddddddd
Agreed
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By Caitsith.Heimdall 2011-09-03 01:15:09  
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-03 01:32:38  
Trying to test Kaustra with less than 415 dark magic skill to see how great a boost to dark magic skill gives, doing around 1800 kaustra with +78 INT in gear and only 14 MAB using atma of the Kirin, Cosmos, and MM
The duration is either much shorter, or it wears off as soon as he loses aggro, probably as soon as he loses aggro, I'll try to keep him claimed this time :(
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By Odin.Minefield 2011-09-03 01:36:55  
Do you think multiple Kaustra can stack? Or they probably seen ahead of that of course, back in the Helicesga days. :U ..boy would that be somethin'
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-03 01:42:29  
I don't think it can stack, no, it definitely wears as soon as it loses all hate, managed to get it down to like 30%ish and then it wore, and I forgot to use my ascetic's drink :<
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By Odin.Minefield 2011-09-03 01:49:01  
Oh well, a man can dream(be it extremely overpowered still) XD...but thanks for doing this tests, Kaustra/Embrava sound so amazing;; I wish I had the test server going but my payment ***is all borked atm, so focusing on that. /sigh
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-09-03 02:01:24  



goodenough.jpg
no windower sucks, anyways this was with 392 dark magic skill and the stats mentioned above, and without a pluto's staff because mrkitty stole it. Obviously this was with pure Kaustra damage, it makes me a little bit moist.
also was an ice day, and didn't have anrin obi on me apparently, so I honestly don't know if Voidstorm procced :|
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By Odin.Minefield 2011-09-03 02:04:40  
That is so hot D: my goodness.
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By Cerberus.Mrkitty 2011-09-03 02:05:18  
ruiner of tests etc
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By Inuyasha 2011-09-03 02:24:15  
Siren.Kalilla said: »
Small update on Embrava and Kaustra today:
09-02-2011 03:28 PM
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We have made a couple of changes based on player feedback.
  • The skill level necessary to produce more potent Haste/Regen effects in Embrava have been reduced

    *With these changes, you'll notice a more potent effect

  • The DoT damage for Kaustra increased

i died...and went to that one place with all the sparkly awesome stuff.... :Q
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By Mischief 2011-09-03 10:34:33  


With a single Kaustra. Turns out the base damage IS reduced when you Manifestation it on a large group (only did ~950ish), but the DoT is not. Base damage took them to about 83%, then the DoT did 5-6% a tick until they all died. Kaustra+Graviga+Bindga burns go?
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