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Shijin Spiral
 Cerberus.Mindi
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By Cerberus.Mindi 2012-02-20 12:45:41  
i have axe and dagger merited 5/5 atm and dont know what to merit last

i have Ukon, Almace, Armageddon and Mandau as emph/relic weapons and not planing to adding any other atm. Out of all the other jobs i probably use MNK and PUP most.

(all of this you could have found out when klicking on my profile btw ^^)
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By Fenrir.Motenten 2012-02-20 13:56:37  
Given that job and weapon spread, yes, Shijin would probably be a good choice for you.
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By Cerberus.Mindi 2012-02-20 14:34:19  
thx i'll try it out :) its the last i can merit atm anyways if i find someonething better at another time i can still change it w
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By mortontony1 2012-02-20 14:55:13  
If you play mnk and pup the most and you obviously have the means to make empys, why no vere? Just wondering.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2012-02-20 14:57:25  
Lol that's pretty much why I don't play anything that's not mnk anymore.

Empys aren't that hard to get, so don't feel like playing any other jobs on ***tier.
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By Cerberus.Mindi 2012-02-20 14:59:16  
lol you missunderstood me... i mean beside those jobs where i have emph/relic weapon, MNK or PUP is the DD i'd probably use most out of all the others (like SAM, DRK..) Those arent my mainjobs and wont get there anytime soon i just like to play around on PUP solo (outside) and sometimes on MNK (inside and outside A)

and not doing any emph atm cause i just dont want to do trials again/farm items and our main focus is atm getting 95(99) emph's
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By Asura.Akamatzu 2012-03-19 15:59:32  
Would Shijin Spiral benefit more from Artful+1 or Anguinus Belt? and What neck piece should I be use and aim to get for SS?



My Shura has DEX+3 and Weapon Skill DMG:3%

With Artful(NQ) I get:
Att:91
Acc:56
STR:46
DEX:39
Double Att:11%
Triple Att:3%
Weapon Skill DMG:3%

With Anguinus Belt I get:
Att:106
Acc:71
STR:45
DEX:30
Double Att:12%
Triple Att:3%
Weapon Skill DMG:3%
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-19 16:00:30  
Artful Belt +1, Moepapa medal and justiciar's torque are pretty close if attack isn't capped.

Osode and thew bomblet are cheap easy upgrades too.
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By Asura.Akamatzu 2012-03-19 16:15:05  
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Artful Belt +1, Moepapa medal and justiciar's torque are pretty close if attack isn't capped.

Osode and thew bomblet are cheap easy upgrades too.

Ok thank your for that.

I'm trying for a Toci Harness.

And, how would I know if my attack is capped?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-03-19 16:20:19  
Twice a mob's defense is attack capped.

Oce. Headpiece +1, especially with Toci's Harness too.
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By Wardeniii 2012-04-26 22:22:51  
Attack uncapped I believe it is best to swap in prosilio/thaumas legs/thaumas feet/melee gloves +2.

Attack capped, you can start swapping in things like Jupiter's pearl, thundersoul ring, moepapa medal, byakko's, etc.

I've certainly been wrong before though.
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By Shiva.Tedril 2013-03-15 02:52:10  
what about what atmas should I use for shijin spiral?
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By Bahamut.Shirai 2013-03-19 10:29:59  
Abyssea?

If so, don't go with spiral.
If you don't have VS use Ascetic's fury, if you don't have that then go do old Nyzul.

As for atma, I go with Apoc, Sanguine scythe and Razed Ruins.
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By Carbuncle.Bigpete 2013-04-02 08:07:30  
This is what i'm using right now:

Shijin

I plan on swapping mantis eye for demonry core when one comes in stock, and considering getting an artful belt+1 and moepapa neck when accuracy isn't an issue

Question: is a DEX+3 earring better than ghillie+1?

Edit: also planning on Thurandaut gloves instead of Mustela since +8 DEX probably beats 2% DA from mustela
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By Bismarck.Kuroganashi 2013-04-02 08:37:30  
Shijin Spiral SET:

ItemSet 295023

This is a Solid SET for Shijin.

Could be better if i had Thaumas and Stuff
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By Carbuncle.Bigpete 2013-04-02 08:51:34  
Atheling > Rancorus, Shijin can't crit. Also demonry > thunder sachet, it has +4 DEX and it's only 10k. swap your black belt out for Artful (+1 if you can afford)
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-04-02 08:54:40  
Brutal, wanion, toci.
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By luckycharms1877 2013-04-02 09:00:42  
ItemSet 295027

Should look like this. Although I could be wrong on the hands but I'm pretty positive on everything else.
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By Bismarck.Kuroganashi 2013-04-02 09:02:47  
Carbuncle.Bigpete said: »
Atheling > Rancorus, Shijin can't crit. Also demonry > thunder sachet, it has +4 DEX and it's only 10k. swap your black belt out for Artful (+1 if you can afford)

Ahhhhhhh thanks for the update, someone said shijin could crit ; ;

and Using thunder to save space, due to PLD BLU can use for Almace too
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By Asura.Aikchan 2013-04-02 09:45:32  
luckycharms1877 said: »
ItemSet 295027

Should look like this. Although I could be wrong on the hands but I'm pretty positive on everything else.

Whats your str in that set? Even cap fSTR ? I'm thinking to test usu legs +1 instead byakko's... -8 dex but gaining 7 str and 20atk
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By Carbuncle.Bigpete 2013-04-02 10:27:19  
luckycharms1877 said: »
ItemSet 295027

Should look like this. Although I could be wrong on the hands but I'm pretty positive on everything else.


Would I be correct in swapping in a demonry core and dex+3 earring over ghillie+1 and potestas in capped attack situations?
I recall Shijin having a +5% attack modifier so you don't need as much attack?
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By Odin.Hirokei 2013-04-02 10:43:57  
Carbuncle.Bigpete said: »
luckycharms1877 said: »
ItemSet 295027

Should look like this. Although I could be wrong on the hands but I'm pretty positive on everything else.


Would I be correct in swapping in a demonry core and dex+3 earring over ghillie+1 and potestas in capped attack situations?
I recall Shijin having a +5% attack modifier so you don't need as much attack?
When capped attack, yes. But I wouldn't rely heavily on the +5% attack bonus, it's not that huge.
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By luckycharms1877 2013-04-02 11:06:55  
Carbuncle.Bigpete said: »
luckycharms1877 said: »
ItemSet 295027

Should look like this. Although I could be wrong on the hands but I'm pretty positive on everything else.


Would I be correct in swapping in a demonry core and dex+3 earring over ghillie+1 and potestas in capped attack situations?
I recall Shijin having a +5% attack modifier so you don't need as much attack?


Maybe its just easier if I quote Jinjo.

"★Myrmex Mitts are better than Mustela if you need the attack or accuracy.
★If you don't have Wanion, use Prosilio (or Artful Belt +1 if attack capped).
★If you don't have Toci's Harness, get a Toci's Harness. But you can use Kirin's Osode.
★Tenryu Hakama +1 are better than Byakko's only if you are fully benefiting from the fSTR.
★Capped attack: Potestas Bomblet -> Demonry Core, Ghillie Earring +1 -> Jupiter's Pearl, Justiciar's Torque -> Moepapa Medal."
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By luckycharms1877 2013-04-02 11:08:19  
Even though all your Mnk needs can be found in the best thread ever @ http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/36705/iipunch-monk-guide/
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