Anni Or Yoichi For Ranger?

I have been looking at both weapons and both looks amazing at 119 but which would be the better for overall.

Anni is easier to be good with; I'd go with that unless you want to use it for sam too.

Anni from what i've heard, no rng though...

How good is yoichi for Sam also do you know? I always thought of a yoichi Sam but never Went for it

Pretty much top notch, other than koga and still thats only situational.

Do you ever plan to SAM, with the utility of having a piercing type WS?

IF NOT, get the gun.

The gun still outparses Yoichi, even at 119. Spamming Namas/Jishnu's still won't beat Anni's coranach(sp)/Last stand combo.

Again, gear dependant of course, but assuming 2 mirror identical situations with only difference being ranged/ammo, gun will win.

There is the argument for longer fights, but if you can show me a fight that lasts past 25 minutes, without other major factor's presenting themselves (Pld died, support dies or is not up to Very Difficult content, etc.) and i'll be quite amazed.

Also gun is cheaper, by aprox. 10-20 mil, depending on server prices.
So Bow your sacrificing damage for utility (SAM)
Gun your sacrificing utility for dmg.

my 2 cents

EDIT: SAM can't hit High level content, using only ranged attacks... the idea of Bow sam is to provide them with a piercing/light based WS . I don't know how a SAM/RNG would do vs. AA Diff or VD fights. Might work, but your giving up alot of snapshot/RACC/RATK, even with AF/RELIC 119 stuff.

says witha bow, seems like you regret your choice :P... but for real, coulnt have said it better.

Jishnu's easily beats Last Stand by a long shot.

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It really depends on the types of buffs you receive and the positional aspects of the fight. Both have advantages and disadvantages but I'd say that Annihilator is easier to use universally. Highest DPS, however would go to the Bow if hate is not an issue.

We can hit. Of course if we try to shoot like a RNG, the DPS will be about 25%-50% of a real RNG because of Double Shot, Velocity Shot, and Snapshot gear, but we can hit perfectly fine! In fact, because of Utkux's strong damage resistance to slashing, I just sit back and shoot with 1 prelude just for kicks:

(Other RNG's did 200k, my total for the boss was 53k).
This is Level 128 alliance too. Besides that, SAM/WAR doesn't usually shoot arrows anyhow. We melee and spam Namas Arrow.

Even during Delve v1, SAM/WAR with Yoichi is one of the strongest DPS. At capped attack, Namas will outperform Fudo any day because ranged attack formulas cap higher than melee attack formulas. See also FSTR vs FSTR2 and PDIF(Melee) vs PDIF(Ranged)

Well I just went and bought all the. Currency needed for anni I hope I like the new toy lol

Hell you convicced me and I wasnt even asking the question...

This is interesting, not a rng but never seen these number results... I mean rng is very gear and play skill based of a job for a DD, but even still always seems to be anni coming out of top as I see it.

Congrats Acey I think. You will enjoy your. New relic.

I am team BOW. I been farming and saving up 4 yoichi. With the new bow from delve i am considering doing apex 5/5 for Sam and use Jin she for rng. I want to stick with making relic but not sure anymore.

Would you just make yoichi anyway or maybe do a different relic? It's a huge commitment to drop all this money and then get crushed by a weapon you can get in 1 day for free. Any advice?

The reason people make relic ranger weapons is to do damage while controlling emnity. If you don't have a relic you are relying on decoy shot alone. Which, if your are going all out will get you killed rather quickly. So while spamming JR with the new bow looks good on paper, you will die.

doesn't even look good on paper, though

Skrim bow beats both with good augs. So does Falubeza if you have access. Of course you have to be more careful with hate. That's the advantage of relic.

I haven't looked at the stats of either, was just saying that people make relic for emnity control.

Gun all the way, unless you plan on taking up Sam as well.

I am aware of the enmity. In this new age of ffxi where you have multiple rng in ally all with similar easy to obtain gear hate control is not a focal point for some. I want a relic for my own personal goals. I seem to get sidetracked I was making a mandau and then thief was meh so sold all my currency. Same with Apoc.

Maybe I should just trade my currency as I go and not build it up 1st so I am locked in.....Things were easier back in the day.

End Rant.

Ranger is a terrible DD. It doesn't even benefit from haste! I'd abandon the entire idea completely.

who said rng cant melee!

Looks like Soups is doing a little Backstabbing of his own

Spreadsheet say you're wrong.

Haste and marches are awesome when on rng/nin and are doing TT on D/VD with no tank.

How are you using spreadsheet with augmented skirmish bow?

How does the Skirmish bow or gun +2 /w good aug ( WS +10% etc) stack up against anni and yoichi ?

You can add it as new gear; just plug in the stat

Right. I was asking what stats are you plugging in?