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St. Louis, Missouri Vs. The Police: Heaven or Hell, Duel 1! Let's rock!
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2014-08-14 15:24:34
The level of frustration in the black community is high with regards to police-on-black teen violence. Looting and rioting isn't the answer, though. I don't think there IS an answer. Police abuse of minorities is rooted in deeper societal issues that we're not close to solving. Tell that to this guy with the American flag on his shirt.
He's throwing back the tear gas canister that was thrown at him. It's a pretty iconic picture, really.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-14 15:28:46
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Do the cops need a reason to wheel out the military gear?
We've got a cat stuck up a tree on Main St, better bring out the flashbangs and APCs.
So, where's the Tea Party response on these blatant overreaches of government? I expect them to lead the charge on this top....hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Right. Hold on I'll see what the Tea Party has to say.
By fonewear 2014-08-14 15:29:12
This building will self destruct in 3 2 :
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-14 15:31:12
Quote: The heavy show of military-like force by police in Ferguson, Mo., is drawing bipartisan criticism from two Kentucky lawmakers.
Sen. Rand Paul, a Republican who has been urging his party to reach out to minorities, wrote in a TIME magazine op-ed Thursday that "there is a legitimate role for the police to keep the peace, but there should be a difference between a police response and a military response."
"The images and scenes we continue to see in Ferguson resemble war more than traditional police action," said the possible 2016 presidential candidate.
The Ferguson police are using military-style vehicles and wearing what appears to be combat gear in response to public protests over the police shooting of Michael Brown, 18, an unarmed black man. Ferguson is a predominantly African American town located north of St. Louis.
A tea-party leader, Paul has been critical of what he considers a large and intrusive federal government, and he blamed what the world is seeing in Ferguson partly on that. Rand Paul, John Yarmuth criticize Ferguson, MO, police
By fonewear 2014-08-14 15:43:05
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-08-14 15:47:41
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-14 15:47:45
Oh my God, looting in a riot/protest situation? UNHEARD OF. No group of people would EVER think to capitalize on anger and chaos.
*laugh track*
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By volkom 2014-08-14 15:52:00
i'm waiting for the media to post a picture of a black officer in uniform during this
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-08-14 16:02:59
i'm waiting for the media to post a picture of a black officer in uniform during this
53 officers in ferguson, 2 black, 2 Hispanic, 1 Asian, 2 female, might be waiting a while.
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-14 16:06:33
1. Dude Fone, can you find videos with anymore popups in them? seriously, wtf?
2. 46 white dudes with a gun/badge in an area that's poor and filled with minorities? that can't end well.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-08-14 16:10:01
Welp, Dizzy's theme song is stuck in my head now. Thanks for the Guilty Gear ref, Chaos.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-14 16:15:13
Welp, Dizzy's theme song is stuck in my head now. Thanks for the Guilty Gear ref, Chaos. YouTube Video Placeholder
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-08-14 16:26:04
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-14 16:30:54
Quote: A St. Louis official who has been a prominent presence at the protests in Ferguson, Missouri, was arrested Wednesday night, according to his wife.
Antonio French, an alderman in St. Louis, has been tweeting nonstop about events unfolding in Ferguson after a police officer shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed African-American teenager, last Saturday. Members of the city's African-American community have protested the shooting.
French has been critical of the police response to the protests -- which has included officers firing tear gas and wooden bullets at crowds -- telling MSNBC host Chris Hayes recently, "There is no trust between the Ferguson police department and the community at this point."
Late Wednesday night, French's wife tweeted that her husband had been arrested by the Ferguson Police Department:
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She then continued to tweet that he was being detained.
The Huffington Post called the Ferguson County Police Department and spoke with an official named "Julie." She would not give her last name, and said she could neither confirm nor deny that French was arrested.
When asked where confirmation could be obtained, Julie replied, "You'll get it on the web, I guess. We're very busy."
About an hour later, French's wife tweeted again that he was now being booked:
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KMOX in St. Louis noted that there was a crowd at the police station awaiting his release as well.
News of French's arrest came shortly after two reporters, Ryan Reilly of The Huffington Post and Wesley Lowery of The Washington Post, were assaulted and arrested after SWAT officers clearing a McDonald's ordered them to leave the restaurant and then said they did not do so quickly enough.
"They essentially acted as a military force. It was incredible," Reilly said in an MSNBC interview after his release. "The worst part was he slammed my head against the glass purposefully on the way out of McDonald's and then sarcastically apologized for it." St. Louis Politician Arrested Amid Ferguson Protests
Antonio French:
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-08-14 16:32:24
Well they gassed the state senator last night, so, anything goes for these guys I guess.
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By Lakshmi.Kathee 2014-08-14 16:43:50
So, the governor has put the Missouri State Hwy Patrol in charge of securing Ferguson.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/14/us/missouri-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
I live within 2 miles of where this is happening. All I could do when I seen the news on Monday morning was say OMG, WTF over and over. This has went wrong from the get go, I hope some right comes out of all that is going wrong.
By Jetackuu 2014-08-14 16:55:06
I'd say hopefully it will start the demilitarization by civilian police forces, but I'm not delusional.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-14 17:02:59
Well they gassed the state senator last night, so, anything goes for these guys I guess.
'Tis true.
Quote: A Missouri State Senator said she was hit with tear gas while protesting in Ferguson.
State Senator Maria Chappelle-Nadal said she is angry at the military style force police are using to control crowds. The 14th district representative said she is outraged and offended by the aggression police are using toward protesters.
Chappelle-Nadal said she and 150 young protesters were hit with tear gas during a peaceful protest Monday night. She is calling out Missouri Highway Patrol.
“[Protesters] have every right to assemble freely and express themselves and not have tear gas thrown at them. By the way, tear gas was thrown on me and we could not breathe,” said Chappelle-Nadal. “I approve their budget, so you know that I’m pissed off.”
Chapelle-Nadal questioned Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson about the situation during a press conference early Wednesday. Chief Jackson was unaware that it had happened. Mo. Senator upset after tear gas thrown at her
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-08-14 17:09:24
I'm shocked that Kidmavado hasn't chimed in on how the Police protect us and we should just roll over and take it up the shitpipe like good citizens and not "cowards." and that we just don't understand what it's like "on the front lines."
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-14 17:42:34
I'm shocked that Kidmavado hasn't chimed in on how the Police protect us and we should just roll over and take it up the shitpipe like good citizens and not "cowards." and that we just don't understand what it's like "on the front lines." It's a good argument until the stories about the police going after the ones who approve their paychecks surface.
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By Carbuncle.Peimei 2014-08-14 18:05:58
It's too late for a revolution america, just bend over and get it over with.
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2014-08-14 18:09:02
So the title says 'Heaven or Hell' and 'Let's Rock!' but there is no Heaven, Hell, or Rock.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2014-08-14 18:19:11
No Heaven. No Hell. Just Rock. YouTube Video Placeholder
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2014-08-14 18:37:56
May as well spend a couple million bucks and buy a GoPro for all officers, so we can see things from their point of view. The cop says the guy grabbed for his sidearm and ran, other witnesses say otherwise. At this point, the truth will not come out. All it takes is one person to be biased, and to be the loudest and to say they saw the guy was unarmed, defenseless, and arms up, and the cop shot anyway, and that's what the rest will say they saw, regardless of what actually happened.
By Raein Tilgung 2014-08-14 18:50:16
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-08-14 18:56:07
It's too late for a revolution america, just bend over and get it over with.
300million Registered Firearms tell a different tale.
I'm shocked that Kidmavado hasn't chimed in on how the Police protect us and we should just roll over and take it up the shitpipe like good citizens and not "cowards." and that we just don't understand what it's like "on the front lines." It's a good argument until the stories about the police going after the ones who approve their paychecks surface.
It was never a good argument. I blame California though... The Hollywood Robbery is probably what initially started off the mass militarization of the police.
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2014-08-14 18:58:35
It's too late for a revolution america, just bend over and get it over with.
300million Registered Firearms in the hands of lazy people tells the same tale.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-08-14 19:00:51
It's too late for a revolution america, just bend over and get it over with.
300million Registered Firearms in the hands of lazy people tells the same tale.
Don't underestimate the strategic value of the 322nd Rascal Mounted Infantry. Those things have a battery life of like 2 hours.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-08-14 19:04:51
What exactly is revolution in this thread going to bring about?
An end to racism?
A disarming of the police forces?
An end to the fascist state?
5.99 unlimited buffalo wings?
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2014-08-14 19:05:36
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »5.99 unlimited buffalo wings? Sign me up!
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To recap the events going on:
It all started with this:
Quote: The fatal shooting of an unarmed black St. Louis teen Saturday has caused an outcry of anger toward the city’s police, with locals rallying in the streets and widening uproar on social media.
Eighteen-year-old Michael Brown was being placed in a police squad car, eyewitness Piaget Crenshaw told the St. Louis Dispatch, when he put his hands in the air and attempted to flee. Several shots hit him as he ran away.
St. Louis County police chief Jon Belmar said Sunday that Brown struggled for the officer’s gun in the patrol car and that one shot was fired from the officer’s gun during the tussle. The officer fired multiple shots at Brown as he fled, Belmar said.
Anger flared the rest of the day after Brown’s death, as protesters screamed obscenities mixed with threats to “kill the police,” and more than 60 area police officers responded to the scene. More shots were reported, though no one was injured. Public Outcry After Police Shooting of Black St. Louis Teenager
Then this happened:
Quote: An uneasy calm settled over Ferguson, Missouri, early Tuesday after a second night of violent clashes between law enforcement and residents protesting the police shooting of an unarmed black teenager, with another demonstration planned for mid-morning.
So far, more than 50 people have been arrested in protests following the death of Michael Brown, 18, in a largely black St. Louis suburb on Saturday after what police officials said was a struggle with a gun in a squad car.
The FBI has opened a civil rights investigation into the racially charged case, and St. Louis County is also investigating the shooting.
Police have not said why Brown was in the police car. At least one shot was fired during the struggle, and then the officer fired more shots before leaving the car, police said.
Chanting "hands up, don’t shoot," protesters overnight challenged police trying to seal off the neighborhood where Brown was shot, a low-income, high-crime area east of downtown Ferguson. Some protesters said they were outraged that Brown appeared to have been shot while holding his hands up in surrender, calling the shooting the latest in a long history of police harassment of area minorities.
"They brought this on themselves," said 25-year-old Adam Burcher of Ferguson, who stood outside the Ferguson Police Department on Monday night with a sign reading "Stop Killing."
Later on Tuesday, a protest is expected outside the St. Louis County prosecutor's office in Clayton, Missouri, and officials are also expected to identify the police officer involved in the shooting. Another protest set in Missouri after riots over teen's killing
Followed by this:
Quote: Violence again erupted in the St. Louis area near the site of the police shooting death of an unarmed black teenager, according to local police, despite calls by U.S. President Barack Obama and activists for a measured response.
Early on Wednesday, a police officer shot and critically wounded a man who drew a handgun near the site of protests over the death of 18-year-old Michael Brown, a St. Louis County Police Department officer said.
Police responded about an hour after midnight to reports of four or five men with shotguns and wearing ski masks. They encountered multiple suspects running, one of whom pulled a gun on an officer, who fired at him, the county officer said. The man was taken to an area hospital.
Shortly after midnight, police fired tear gas into protesters who had confronted a line of officers after a far larger crowd dispersed, St. Louis County Police Department spokesman Brian Schellman said.
A photograph in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch showed a protester wearing a shirt with an American flag printed on it throwing a tear gas container back at the police. There were other media reports of bottles thrown at police.
The incidents followed two nights of violent protests, looting and arrests in Ferguson, the largely black St. Louis suburb where the shooting of Brown took place. Violence erupts again after killing of black Missouri teen
And now to bring you up to date:
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The Ferguson and St. Louis County police departments, which led the initial response to civil unrest in Ferguson, are both equipped with military equipment donated by the Defense Dept. Ferguson has received two vehicles, a trailer and a generator and St. Louis County has received nine utility trucks and two cargo trailers since 2012.
The equipment was received under the 1033 program which was enacted by Congress in 1992, and expanded in 1997. The program allows police forces to request and receive refurbished military equipment free of charge from the Pentagon. Police departments need only pay for shipping. Ferguson and St. Louis County police received military equipment from Pentagon
Quote: President Barack Obama on Thursday said that police should respect protesters after four nights of racially charged demonstrations in Ferguson, Missouri, over the recent police killing of an unarmed black teenager.
"There is never an excuse for violence against police or for those who would use this tragedy as a cover for vandalism or looting," Obama said a televised remarks.
"There's also no excuse for police to use excessive force against peaceful protesters or to throw protesters in jail for lawfully exercising their first amendment rights," he said, speaking to the press from Edgartown, Massachusetts near where he is vacationing with his family.
After the shooting death of 18-year-old Michael Brown in the St. Louis suburb on Saturday, dozens of protesters have been arrested and the police have used riot gear, tear gas and rubber bullets to break up protests.
There have been peaceful vigils and demonstrations as well as episodes of looting and violence.
Governor Jay Nixon on Thursday also told community members at a church in the St. Louis area that "over the next few hours we are going to be making some shifts so that people will be ... safe." He did not specify what his steps would be made. Obama calls for police to respect protesters in Ferguson, Missouri
Don't forget this one too:
Quote: Two reporters covering the shooting of an unarmed black teen by a white police officer in a St. Louis suburb say they were arrested at a McDonald’s Wednesday evening in the commercial corridor where angry protests have occurred.
Wesley Lowery of The Washington Post and Ryan Reilly of The Huffington Post say they were working in the fast-food restaurant when SWAT officers came in to quickly clear the area. Both quickly tweeted about their arrests, detention and subsequent release without any charges.
Reilly tells KMOX News that officers were trying to clear out the restaurant.
“I was just packing up, and I evidently did not move quickly enough,” he says.
Reilly says an officer banged his head on the restaurant door and sarcastically apologized for it.
“None of them were wearing name badges, I don’t know why,” he says. “Over a dozen times I asked for an identity, I asked for a badge number, and all the officers standing around heard my request and ignored it.”
Reilly said he believes they were released so quickly because they were journalists. He realized during his interview with KMOX News that he was not read his Miranda Rights.
“I wasn’t even Mirandaized,” he says. “I did not even think about that until you just mentioned. I was never given…nothing…wow. I should really know that as a justice reporter. I sort of knew it by heart, but I was never given my rights, or anything like that was mentioned.”
Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson did not immediately return a cellphone message from The Associated Press seeking comment. 2 Reporters Arrested At Ferguson McDonald’s
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