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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-07-02 18:27:08
Phoenix.Darki said: hmmm I've been around tourism in PR a lot considering I studied in the capital, I've seen how we treat forgeiners and it's nothing alike to racial and the way we express ourselves about forgeiners and their countries, we don't usually belittle them, we just clearly hate people who are racial towards us, that's one thing I've heard in our social groups more than anything. I bet alot of the people you are calling racial think similarly
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-07-02 18:28:06
Sylph.Kimble said: So wait, people not being able to understand you = being racist?
And ***, i've worked in retail, id ignore the *** out of anyone, race not pending :P
You seem just fast to pull the racism card.
haha see how you can justify anything!
anyways, it was a hotel counter. I think if someone comes up to hotel counter you should attend them, yes? considering your doing nothing than looking through some papers and moving around your rolling chair here and there, yes?
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By Phoenix.Airbag 2010-07-02 18:28:17
Phoenix.Darki said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Phoenix.Darki said: Several parts of Florida, Several of Utah, Colorado, several places of New York. How exactly have people been racial to you in those areas.
Specifically new york.
i can understand all the southern states and ***.
but really tell me how exactly someone has been "racial" towards ya, this is just to get a better idea of where you are coming from with your opinions.
The way I speak, they would pretend to not understand me and then make me repeat a word over and over again and smile and after I've said a word 5 times, they would then smile and correct me and make me repeat it? How is that not just rude.
or the times I've been at the counter asking for something, how they would look at me and then not look at me again and just continue to ignore me and attend other things :/...
you can justify these things with other things, so it doesn't matter what I say about how I've been treated before, I'm pretty sure you will find a way to justify all this behavior about it not being racial towards me and just me misunderstanding things, but trust me, you can feel the vibe when someone just doesn't like you and is being racial.
I remember once I was talking on the phone on the hallway pretty low and some black man came out of his hotel room shouting at me to STFU and that my accent was annoying <.<... that scared me the *** out lol now I never talk in hallways in hotel rooms!
that was in florida btw, I seemed to get most of the racism in florida than anywhere, on Utah too.
Maybe you sound funny and and were being loud and he was trying to bang a hot chick and he couldnt concentrate, that has absolutely nothing to do with race :s
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-07-02 18:29:17
haha Ok I wasn't treated racialy, excuse me for misunderstanding these people! :)
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By Sylph.Kimble 2010-07-02 18:29:49
Phoenix.Darki said: Sylph.Kimble said: So wait, people not being able to understand you = being racist?
And ***, i've worked in retail, id ignore the *** out of anyone, race not pending :P
You seem just fast to pull the racism card.
haha see how you can justify anything!
anyways, it was a hotel counter. I think if someone comes up to hotel counter you should attend them, yes? considering your doing nothing than looking through some papers and moving around your rolling chair here and there, yes?
If you can justify it being racist, I can damn well justify it not being racist.
Unless they flat out made a racist comment to you, then you can not say its racist.
Was there other people at the hotel counter too? Did they serve a white person over you?
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-07-02 18:30:35
Phoenix.Darki said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Phoenix.Darki said: Several parts of Florida, Several of Utah, Colorado, several places of New York. How exactly have people been racial to you in those areas.
Specifically new york.
i can understand all the southern states and ***.
but really tell me how exactly someone has been "racial" towards ya, this is just to get a better idea of where you are coming from with your opinions.
The way I speak, they would pretend to not understand me and then make me repeat a word over and over again and smile and after I've said a word 5 times, they would then smile and correct me and make me repeat it? How is that not just rude.
or the times I've been at the counter asking for something, how they would look at me and then not look at me again and just continue to ignore me and attend other things :/...
you can justify these things with other things, so it doesn't matter what I say about how I've been treated before, I'm pretty sure you will find a way to justify all this behavior about it not being racial towards me and just me misunderstanding things, but trust me, you can feel the vibe when someone just doesn't like you and is being racial.
I remember once I was talking on the phone on the hallway pretty low and some black man came out of his hotel room shouting at me to STFU and that my accent was annoying <.<... that scared me the *** out lol now I never talk in hallways in hotel rooms!
that was in florida btw, I seemed to get most of the racism in florida than anywhere, on Utah too. I don't really know if that qualifies as racism.
Would you rather they just kind of guess at what you are saying?
I can understand about the whole correcting thing being a bit upsetting, but did they word it as "did you mean x"
when it comes to customer service rather than halfassing it and kind of guessing what you say if you have an issue understanding seems right.
it's not like they are denying you service or are not taking your order.
if they had like denied you service, tampered with your food or something like that it'd be qualified as racist.
but attempting to understand a person when you have issues figuring out what they are saying is entirely understandable.
about the accent thing in the hallway?
maybe you were being loud and he was trying to sleep.
may have been a bit rude to hit on the accent thing.
but the way i see it is that you pretty much just experienced the rudeness of america.
it's not racist.
it's just people being rude.
i used to work fast food when i was younger and it didn't really matter who you were.
unless you had a northern european accent.
those amuse me and make me envious at times.
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By Phoenix.Smileybone 2010-07-02 18:31:13
Phoenix.Darki said: Sylph.Kimble said: Phoenix.Darki said: Phoenix.Smileybone said:
Couldn't this be true for PR too though?
I think I will start counting from now on how many times I have to repeat this:
when did I say it wasn't ? lol I just said it's not as big as other places. (I'll stop mentioning america because it will make it seem like I am pointing a finger at it and then be called racial for some reason <.<)
*reads up* yep I have mentioned it's not as big as other places at all.... many many times. I've also said, it rarely happens.
They are saying, perhaps you think its not as racist, because people aren't racist to you?
Which is the same point you used against Terminus.
hmmm I've been around tourism in PR a lot considering I studied in the capital, I've seen how we treat forgeiners and it's nothing alike to racial and the way we express ourselves about forgeiners and their countries, we don't usually belittle them, we just clearly hate people who are racial towards us, that's one thing I've heard in our social groups more than anything.
And I used to live in Florida and go to tourist hot spots all the time and I've never seen anyone having any problem with foreigners besides maybe trying to understand their language lol.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-07-02 18:31:24
Phoenix.Darki said: Sylph.Kimble said: So wait, people not being able to understand you = being racist? And ***, i've worked in retail, id ignore the *** out of anyone, race not pending :P You seem just fast to pull the racism card. haha see how you can justify anything! anyways, it was a hotel counter. I think if someone comes up to hotel counter you should attend them, yes? considering your doing nothing than looking through some papers and moving around your rolling chair here and there, yes? Because you aren't doing the exact same thing
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-07-02 18:34:01
Phoenix.Darki said: The way I speak, they would pretend to not understand me and then make me repeat a word over and over again and smile and after I've said a word 5 times, they would then smile and correct me and make me repeat it? How is that not just rude. How is it not rude to get mad at people who don't understand you when you speak funny?
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-07-02 18:34:56
Ramuh.Vinvv said: Phoenix.Darki said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Phoenix.Darki said: Several parts of Florida, Several of Utah, Colorado, several places of New York. How exactly have people been racial to you in those areas.
Specifically new york.
i can understand all the southern states and ***.
but really tell me how exactly someone has been "racial" towards ya, this is just to get a better idea of where you are coming from with your opinions.
The way I speak, they would pretend to not understand me and then make me repeat a word over and over again and smile and after I've said a word 5 times, they would then smile and correct me and make me repeat it? How is that not just rude.
or the times I've been at the counter asking for something, how they would look at me and then not look at me again and just continue to ignore me and attend other things :/...
you can justify these things with other things, so it doesn't matter what I say about how I've been treated before, I'm pretty sure you will find a way to justify all this behavior about it not being racial towards me and just me misunderstanding things, but trust me, you can feel the vibe when someone just doesn't like you and is being racial.
I remember once I was talking on the phone on the hallway pretty low and some black man came out of his hotel room shouting at me to STFU and that my accent was annoying <.<... that scared me the *** out lol now I never talk in hallways in hotel rooms!
that was in florida btw, I seemed to get most of the racism in florida than anywhere, on Utah too. I don't really know if that qualifies as racism.
Would you rather they just kind of guess at what you are saying?
I can understand about the whole correcting thing being a bit upsetting, but did they word it as "did you mean x"
when it comes to customer service rather than halfassing it and kind of guessing what you say if you have an issue understanding seems right.
it's not like they are denying you service or are not taking your order.
if they had like denied you service, tampered with your food or something like that it'd be qualified as racist.
but attempting to understand a person when you have issues figuring out what they are saying is entirely understandable.
about the accent thing in the hallway?
maybe you were being loud and he was trying to sleep.
may have been a bit rude to hit on the accent thing.
but the way i see it is that you pretty much just experienced the rudeness of america.
it's not racist.
it's just people being rude.
i used to work fast food when i was younger and it didn't really matter who you were.
unless you had a northern european accent.
those amuse me and make me envious at times.
i dunno, doesn't it seem going up a counter and getting ignored seem like being denied of service? they obviously noticed me right there <.< ... and it was a hotel too... i just wanted some god damn forks to eat my chinese food -.- ... which they gave me when i went to the person at her side.
and yes people seemed to be halfassing when they were trying to correct me or something.
european accents are sexy <.< ... the ones that amuse me are british accents and i still love them.
I was being low and it wasnt late at night for him to come out rudely saying to shut the *** up that my accent was also annoying to him. my dad did come out and dragged me inside the hotel room avoiding this guy, he was too big for my dad to argue with, and i was only 13....
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-07-02 18:35:04
Phoenix.Darki said: Sylph.Kimble said: So wait, people not being able to understand you = being racist?
And ***, i've worked in retail, id ignore the *** out of anyone, race not pending :P
You seem just fast to pull the racism card.
haha see how you can justify anything!
anyways, it was a hotel counter. I think if someone comes up to hotel counter you should attend them, yes? considering your doing nothing than looking through some papers and moving around your rolling chair here and there, yes?
maybe they are having some family crisis and didn't think to help the customer.
you have to think that these people that serve you do have lives and are people rather than robots who are intent to scorn you for being hispanic.
i hear more racist remarks about indian people than anything.
but that's because i have customer that are like OH YOU SPEAK ENGLISH I AM SO GLAD I WAS TALKING TO THIS INDIAN GUY AND HE SAID HIS NAME WAS MIKE AND HIS NAME OBVIOUSLY WASN'T MIKE AND HE COULDN'T HELP ME BECAUSE I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND THEM.
usually people like this can't figure out which cord is their power cord and which is their ethernet cable.
i mean i can understand getting confused about the ethernet ***, but it's a *** rounded power cable it's the only one different don't unplug lan1 damnit.
edit: why didn't you heckle the delivery guy about the forks. come on when in america you have to be rude, it's a rule of thumb.
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By Phoenix.Smileybone 2010-07-02 18:35:23
So if I went to PR and...
...entered a restaurant and it took them an abnormally long time to serve me I should just assume its racism right?
...Or if I went to a gas station and the guy couldn't understand my Spanish, it's racism right?
...If some drunk guy yelled at me for accidentally bumping into him on the street it must be racism!
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-07-02 18:36:24
Phoenix.Smileybone said: So if I went to PR and...
...entered a restaurant and it took them an abnormally long time to serve me I should just assume its racism right?
...Or if I went to a gas station and the guy couldn't understand my Spanish, it's racism right?
...If some drunk guy yelled at me for accidentally bumping into him on the street it must be racism! yes it's racism.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2010-07-02 18:37:30
I still want to know if someone else was present when she was ignored. (as in another customer)
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-07-02 18:37:40
Phoenix.Smileybone said: So if I went to PR and...
...entered a restaurant and it took them an abnormally long time to serve me I should just assume its racism right?
...Or if I went to a gas station and the guy couldn't understand my Spanish, it's racism right?
...If some drunk guy yelled at me for accidentally bumping into him on the street it must be racism!
haha ok you made your point, i already said sorry for misunderstanding these people. :) I take it all back! infact, I only experienced rudeness! forgive me! WHAA.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-07-02 18:38:30
Sylph.Kimble said: I still want to know if someone else was present when she was ignored. (as in another customer)
no :/ counter was empty, i just moved to the side and asked the other dude who was doing basicly the same... sitting on the chair looking at paperwork.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-07-02 18:43:12
I've been ignored at random place I can by stuff many times before. It must've been racism even though they appeared to be similar race as me. Maybe they are one of those self hating whites or something
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-07-02 18:45:17
Ramuh.Dasva said: I've been ignored at random place I can by stuff many times before. It must've been racism even though they appeared to be similar race as me. Maybe they are one of those self hating whites or something
yeah man :D yeah.
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By Sylph.Akibakei 2010-07-02 18:50:26
this thread is still going? whats the topic now?
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-07-02 18:52:04
Sylph.Akibakei said: this thread is still going? whats the topic now?
sexy things, like sex at a hotel counter, sex at an elevator, sex in the hallways. you know, sexy things like that.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-07-02 18:52:31
Sylph.Akibakei said: this thread is still going? whats the topic now? how racist darki thinks america is
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that and supposedly sexy things.
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By Gilgamesh.Alyria 2010-07-02 18:52:37
No...
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-07-02 18:53:41
Ramuh.Vinvv said: Sylph.Akibakei said: this thread is still going? whats the topic now? how racist darki thinks america is
well true, but my ffxiah cousins have thought me it really isn't as horrible as I thought it was.
I wasn't being sarcastic btw.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-07-02 18:54:46
Phoenix.Darki said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Sylph.Akibakei said: this thread is still going? whats the topic now? how racist darki thinks america is
well true, but my ffxiah cousins have thought me it really isn't as horrible as I thought it was.
I wasn't being sarcastic btw. Darki, you need to self-teach yourself english more.
:P
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-07-02 18:55:48
Ramuh.Vinvv said: Phoenix.Darki said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Sylph.Akibakei said: this thread is still going? whats the topic now? how racist darki thinks america is
well true, but my ffxiah cousins have thought me it really isn't as horrible as I thought it was.
I wasn't being sarcastic btw. Darki, you need to self-teach yourself english more.
hmmm okay. you did understand me :P do you know any other language apart from english that you can speak fluently? if you do you'd understand is not as easy as it looks.
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By Fenrir.Schutz 2010-07-02 18:56:04
Ramuh.Vinvv said: Phoenix.Smileybone said: So if I went to PR and... ...entered a restaurant and it took them an abnormally long time to serve me I should just assume its racism right? ...Or if I went to a gas station and the guy couldn't understand my Spanish, it's racism right? ...If some drunk guy yelled at me for accidentally bumping into him on the street it must be racism! yes it's racism.
It sounds like PR has a big issue with being racially racist with racism.
Phoenix.Darki said: I already said, in puerto rico out of 50 people 1 is racial, there is always going to be someone here who is racial but it's not a major problem like in america, it's something in here you will get, but ODDLY. and i mean, RARELY.
But I think you'd have to go to 50 restaurants, 50 gas stations, and approach 50 drunk guys first before any of that happens because the racially racist rareness ratio is only 1:50 there. :p
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-07-02 18:58:30
Fenrir.Schutz said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Phoenix.Smileybone said: So if I went to PR and... ...entered a restaurant and it took them an abnormally long time to serve me I should just assume its racism right? ...Or if I went to a gas station and the guy couldn't understand my Spanish, it's racism right? ...If some drunk guy yelled at me for accidentally bumping into him on the street it must be racism! yes it's racism.
It sounds like PR has a big issue with being racially racist with racism.
Phoenix.Darki said: I already said, in puerto rico out of 50 people 1 is racial, there is always going to be someone here who is racial but it's not a major problem like in america, it's something in here you will get, but ODDLY. and i mean, RARELY.
But I think you'd have to go to 50 restaurants, 50 gas stations, and approach 50 drunk guys first before any of that happens because the racially racist rareness ratio is only 1:50 there. :p
so, 5 more pages of this subject?
Phoenix.Darki said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Sylph.Akibakei said: this thread is still going? whats the topic now? how racist darki thinks america is
well true, but my ffxiah cousins have thought me it really isn't as horrible as I thought it was.
I wasn't being sarcastic btw.
I already said that. leave it there man :) I already see it differently, believe it or not.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-07-02 18:58:48
Phoenix.Darki said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Phoenix.Darki said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Sylph.Akibakei said: this thread is still going? whats the topic now? how racist darki thinks america is well true, but my ffxiah cousins have thought me it really isn't as horrible as I thought it was. I wasn't being sarcastic btw. Darki, you need to self-teach yourself english more. hmmm okay. you did understand me :P do you know any other language apart from english that you can speak fluently? if you do you'd understand is not as easy as it looks. Doesn't mean you shouldn't keep working on it
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-07-02 19:01:19
Ramuh.Dasva said: Phoenix.Darki said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Phoenix.Darki said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Sylph.Akibakei said: this thread is still going? whats the topic now? how racist darki thinks america is well true, but my ffxiah cousins have thought me it really isn't as horrible as I thought it was. I wasn't being sarcastic btw. Darki, you need to self-teach yourself english more. hmmm okay. you did understand me :P do you know any other language apart from english that you can speak fluently? if you do you'd understand is not as easy as it looks. Doesn't mean you shouldn't keep working on it
sorry, going to retire from the forums till i learn proper english!!!
brb.
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By Sylph.Akibakei 2010-07-02 19:02:08
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Sylph.Akibakei said: hat's it. I just dont see how hard that would be to accomplish. But Obama-Care just says '*** it, give health care to every one, including the lazy ***.'
I do not know if you are just too busy being a *** to realize, but everyone deserves health care (aka the right to live and not die over something curable). If you are that selfish that everyone in the world can die except who you feel should live then by all means get a gun and start killing people.
The constitution reads "the pursuit of happiness." People forget the "pursuit" part. If people are not going to take the initiative and pursue this happiness then I am not going to take it on myself to give these people my hard earned money just so they can continue their non-pursuit.
You call names but you have no idea what you are whimpering about. I am a completely educated person who has grown up from poverty to doing ok now. The world doesnt promise health care. The majority of the world has none and they make it just fine.
Health care is a privilege. No where is health care promised in any law. If you are a kid, a working adult, or disabled then you are or can be covered by the government or a private health care provider. If you are a lazy-*** then you do not deserve it.
You need to learn the difference between privilege and right. It's your right to pursue happiness but it's a privilege to have health care. There are already laws in place that protect and give you care if you do not have it, which is great, but the basic every day care should not be given out to anyone who does not work for it. Sorry, but if your liberal *** wants to give all your money to this cause then go ahead but I will fight for my money.
I give to charity every week, what do you do? Dont answer that, I honestly do not care. You can call me a *** if you like but I am just not your average stereotypical, uneducated political spout off. I know my shiz and if you cannot handle that then please use your "pursuit" to educate yourself.
Now im really PO at the goverment its bad enough that the company I used to work for tryed to screw me over on unemployment and workers comp but not the unemployment screwed me on pay. Then they tell me im sorry but basically screwed. You know what if I had the power to change the law I would change it for the working people that gets injured and if workers comp and unemployment trys to screw over people they would have to pay a hugh @$$ fine same with the IRS. How come if they are late paying you its ok but if you are late paying them you get fined, thats BS. I see now why other people is attacking the usa and im not saying anything more.
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