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By Cerberus.Excelior 2010-07-08 17:36:43  
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WSing in haste gear makes your WS go off faster.
This had me loling. Hard.

Believe it or not I've had people argue that if you WS in slow gear, it will slow your next hit due to server ping. Thus WSing in any form of -speed gear = less damage.
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2010-07-08 18:03:22  
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Bahamut.Kaioshin said:
Cerberus.Excelior said:
WSing in haste gear makes your WS go off faster.
This had me loling. Hard.

Believe it or not I've had people argue that if you WS in slow gear, it will slow your next hit due to server ping. Thus WSing in any form of -speed gear = less damage.

It does actually idiot.

And you took everything that he said completly out of context here. He said you should be using Black/Onyx set over hectatomb cause it not only has alot of str like hectatomb but also has attack and no slow so it wont slow dont your next melee attack.
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By Cerberus.Excelior 2010-07-08 18:09:58  
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Cerberus.Excelior said:
Bahamut.Kaioshin said:
Cerberus.Excelior said:
WSing in haste gear makes your WS go off faster.
This had me loling. Hard.
Believe it or not I've had people argue that if you WS in slow gear, it will slow your next hit due to server ping. Thus WSing in any form of -speed gear = less damage.
It does actually idiot.

/facepalm
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By Gilgamesh.Samuraiking 2010-07-08 18:17:54  
Bismarck.Maxse said:
Cerberus.Excelior said:
Bahamut.Kaioshin said:
Cerberus.Excelior said:
WSing in haste gear makes your WS go off faster.
This had me loling. Hard.

Believe it or not I've had people argue that if you WS in slow gear, it will slow your next hit due to server ping. Thus WSing in any form of -speed gear = less damage.

It does actually idiot.

And you took everything that he said completly out of context here. He said you should be using Black/Onyx set over hectatomb cause it not only has alot of str like hectatomb but also has attack and no slow so it wont slow dont your next melee attack.

The act of ws'ing and breaking from normal melee swings resets ur delay as if you just hit, but doesn't factor in any slow/haste... at all. The only way hecatomb effects you during a ws to make you slow is if you are a dumbass and leave it on AFTER ws goes off and you melee swing BEFORE you swap back to tp gear.

Haste/Slow is only factored in the second the swing goes off. It sets a delay once it swings based off current buffs and gear. What you have on before and after the swing means ***. What you wear during a ws doesn't effect melee at all.
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By Cerberus.Excelior 2010-07-08 18:22:55  
I don't even know what to say, the lack of understanding of basic game mechanics here is overwhelming. His argument was about how attack is > str of catastrophe. This is false unless you won't be capping Pdif. In most situations you can by brining support. What you can not easily cap is FSTR which why you use an STR build on catastrophe for MOST content.
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By Gilgamesh.Samuraiking 2010-07-08 18:28:56  
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I don't even know what to say, the lack of understanding of basic game mechanics here is overwhelming.

Not going into the cata ***, just wanted to quote this. THIS is why this site isn't good for anything but trolling. If people want content information or serious discussions they go to BG. If they are mentally HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE and/or tarus they go to alla. If they wanna troll they come here. I left out KI, but is that site even still alive?

You got mnks asking if aurore feet > fumas and sams asking about 3 hits with blind potions and ***. This place is /headdeskville.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-07-08 18:30:59  
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Cerberus.Excelior said:
I don't even know what to say, the lack of understanding of basic game mechanics here is overwhelming.

Not going into the cata ***, just wanted to quote this. THIS is why this site isn't good for anything but trolling. If people want content information or serious discussions they go to BG. If they are mentally HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE and/or tarus they go to alla. If they wanna troll they come here. I left out KI, but is that site even still alive?

You got mnks asking if aurore feet > fumas and sams asking about 3 hits with blind potions and ***. This place is /headdeskville.
i would visit headdeskville.
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By Phoenix.Smileybone 2010-07-08 18:35:04  
Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said:
Cerberus.Excelior said:
I don't even know what to say, the lack of understanding of basic game mechanics here is overwhelming.

Not going into the cata ***, just wanted to quote this. THIS is why this site isn't good for anything but trolling. If people want content information or serious discussions they go to BG. If they are mentally HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE and/or tarus they go to alla. If they wanna troll they come here. I left out KI, but is that site even still alive?

You got mnks asking if aurore feet > fumas and sams asking about 3 hits with blind potions and ***. This place is /headdeskville.

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By Cerberus.Excelior 2010-07-08 18:35:49  
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Cerberus.Excelior said:
I don't even know what to say, the lack of understanding of basic game mechanics here is overwhelming.
Not going into the cata ***, just wanted to quote this. THIS is why this site isn't good for anything but trolling. If people want content information or serious discussions they go to BG. If they are mentally HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE and/or tarus they go to alla. If they wanna troll they come here. I left out KI, but is that site even still alive? You got mnks asking if aurore feet > fumas and sams asking about 3 hits with blind potions and ***. This place is /headdeskville.

Ehh for the most part I like the people I've met on here. There are morons/*** heads anywhere you go.
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2010-07-08 18:37:20  
Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said:
Bismarck.Maxse said:
Cerberus.Excelior said:
Bahamut.Kaioshin said:
Cerberus.Excelior said:
WSing in haste gear makes your WS go off faster.
This had me loling. Hard.

Believe it or not I've had people argue that if you WS in slow gear, it will slow your next hit due to server ping. Thus WSing in any form of -speed gear = less damage.

It does actually idiot.

And you took everything that he said completly out of context here. He said you should be using Black/Onyx set over hectatomb cause it not only has alot of str like hectatomb but also has attack and no slow so it wont slow dont your next melee attack.

The act of ws'ing and breaking from normal melee swings resets ur delay as if you just hit, but doesn't factor in any slow/haste... at all. The only way hecatomb effects you during a ws to make you slow is if you are a dumbass and leave it on AFTER ws goes off and you melee swing BEFORE you swap back to tp gear.

Haste/Slow is only factored in the second the swing goes off. It sets a delay once it swings based off current buffs and gear. What you have on before and after the swing means ***. What you wear during a ws doesn't effect melee at all.

No ***wsing in slow gear wont slow you down but wsing with haste march x2 aftermath etc you will not all of the time maybe not even most of the time but sometimes even with spellcast with all that haste and proper buffs you will attack before your ws gear swaps out. And yes attack is huge for catastrophy, str isnt even a mod all it does is give you fSTR it does very little thank you troll.
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By Cerberus.Excelior 2010-07-08 18:42:37  
Of the two of us which has apoc? Which of us has actually used it and first hand seen how WS and meleeing on it works? Oh ok just me. I really don't mind if you're ignorant but don't be a *** about your ignorance.

While str isnt a mod it doe help the FSTR part of the equation. Pdif is very reasy to cap using bard songs, I even said that earlier if you actually read what I typed. If Pdif is capped than STR is going to do more than attack. You realize a cap means there is a cap right? So adding more would do nothing? You do realize that right? If i have 25.56% haste on gear and I add anothr 10% does it do anything? No it doesn't. I also said there are situations where you wont reach that cap and you should alter your gear. Have you ever heard the phrase ***is situational? Situational, that means sometimes you would do something differently based on circumstances. You understand? I think its pretty fkin obvious what is being said here.
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By Sylph.Pwrlessgirl 2010-07-08 18:44:22  
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I lol at the people selling Antares Harness for that Aurore body.


Paid 4MM for mine 2 yrs ago... but im Glad I got 1.3MM back from selling it on 4th July. At least I kept my full 1.3MM and have already 7pc of the Perle/Teal/and soon Aurore sets for which I have/will pay with Easy Prey Cruor :)
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-07-08 18:45:33  
Sylph.Pwrlessgirl said:
Odin.Dirtyfinger said:
I lol at the people selling Antares Harness for that Aurore body.


Paid 4MM for mine 2 yrs ago... but im Glad I got 1.3MM back from selling it on 4th July. At least I kept my full 1.3MM and have already 7pc of the Perle/Teal/and soon Aurore sets for which I have/will pay with Easy Prey Cruor :)
Your "MM" makes me want to punch someone.
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2010-07-08 18:47:04  
I have an 80 dark mule thank you learn the game son.
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By Popp1sgirl 2010-07-08 18:48:53  
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Unless your brds are retards they should be giving dual march not attack songs and you should be using onyx.
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By Cerberus.Excelior 2010-07-08 18:48:56  
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I have an 80 dark mule thank you learn the game son.

I'm done with you. You really are probably one of the dumbest people I've met on these forums so far. Believe me I've even read everything nabis and korpg typed.
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2010-07-08 18:50:49  
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Bismarck.Maxse said:
I have an 80 dark mule thank you learn the game son.

I'm done with you. You really are probably one of the dumbest people I've met on these forums so far. Believe me I've even read everything nabis and korpg typed.

Im dumb because I have a mule?

Well you are a robot lover because you shampoo your balls instead of soaping them.

Makes about the same amount of sense.
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By Sylph.Pwrlessgirl 2010-07-08 18:55:15  
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I bought all 3 sets for the hell of it and put them on a mule. cept for a few teal peices for blm. I got 100k cruor in one group so i figured why not. They need to make it storable. Plan to use body on drg, and legs for ws on drg... other than that meh.


That really sucks... I went to Bastok 2 days ago to Store my Perle Set as I'm leveling BRD atm...just to find out Storage NPC don't take it.

WTH is S.E. doing during maintenance... Cleaning up bodily fluids they squirt on the servers? They shall they be focusing how the palyers who bought the expansion be able to store up to 15 new pieces of lvl78 Armor without resourcing to a mule.!
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By Cerberus.Excelior 2010-07-08 18:58:18  
@max

Actually your response to the fact you've never used apoc or have any idea how it works was that you have level 80 drk. Level 80 drk != Apocalypse. Unless you're going to say your mule has apoc you really don't know what you're talking about in terms of actually using it.

@ Popp1girl

I'm sure you're some /anon tard but for your sake I'll address you. The last 5 years of this game has consisted of partys to the effect of DDx3 BRD BRD RDM. That means four songs. You realize you can use more than two songs at once right? Ideally those songs would be Marchx2 Minuetx2. WHat does minuet do? Minuet gives attack. What does attack do? it adds the Pdif portion of the melee equation. What does Pdif have? It has a cap. What does a cap mean? It means you will gain no benefit beyond a certain point. WHat does that mean? It means at this point you have to stack something else. What else would you stack? You would stack STR. What has the most STR on gear? Hecatomb. Jesus people.

I'm not saying to never use onyx gear, just that for most situations you will benefit more from a STR build.

Edit: Ignore typos, I'm in a merit party atm, alt-tabing constantly to type this.
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2010-07-08 19:01:59  
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@max

Actually your response to the fact you've never used apoc or have any idea how it works was that you have level 80 drk. Level 80 drk != Apocalypse. Unless you're going to say your mule has apoc you really don't know what you're talking about in terms of actually using it.

@ Popp1girl

I'm sure you're some /anon tard but for your sake I'll address you. The last 5 years of this game has consisted of partys to the effect of DDx3 BRD BRD RDM. That means four songs. You realize you can use more than two songs at once right? Ideally those songs would be Marchx2 Minuetx2. WHat does minuet do? Minuet gives attack. What does attack do? it adds the Pdif portion of the melee equation. What does Pdif have? It has a cap. What does a cap mean? It means you will gain no benefit beyond a certain point. WHat does that mean? It means at this point you have to stack something else. What else would you stack? You would stack STR. What has the most STR on gear? Hecatomb. Jesus people.

I'm not saying to never use onyx gear, just that for most situations you will benefit more from a STR build.

Edit: Ignore typos, I'm in a merit party atm, alt-tabing constantly to type this.

I thought you were done with me you nazi loving hippie, I cant take anything someone with a swift belt says seriously.
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2010-07-08 19:03:29  
Maybe you should spend less time acting like you know what you are talking about on the forums and more time upgrading your shitty gear, its people like you that make me sick relic + a bunch of gimp gear in other slots.
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By Cerberus.Excelior 2010-07-08 19:09:30  
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Maybe you should spend less time acting like you know what you are talking about on the forums and more time upgrading your shitty gear, its people like you that make me sick relic a bunch of gimp gear in other slots.

I see. Rather than admit that you're wrong you would rather insult people. Let me ask you, which is harder to get: a relic or ebody/vbelt? A relic would obviously be harder. While some people spent their time going after those items I chose to go after a relic. A relic contributes more overall damage than those two items would. Do you honestly think I couldnt have had those items if I wanted them? I spent 200mil and worked a year and a half for apoc. Should be pretty obvious if I had wanted to go that path I could have. Guess what? I can still get those items. Guess what? Most of the currenty maxed out drk gear is going to be obsolete. Guess what isn't going to ever be obsolete? The relic. Idiots like you who critque a relic's gear like that are just butt hurt jealous retards. I may not have maxed gear but all my gear is properly used. Do you really think I have a lack of understanding of the game because I don't have some epeen items?
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2010-07-08 19:10:55  
Cerberus.Excelior said:
Bismarck.Maxse said:
Maybe you should spend less time acting like you know what you are talking about on the forums and more time upgrading your shitty gear, its people like you that make me sick relic a bunch of gimp gear in other slots.

I see. Rather than admit that you're wrong you would rather insult people. Let me ask you, which is harder to get: a relic or ebody/vbelt? A relic would obviously be harder. While some people spent their time going after those items I chose to go after a relic. A relic contributes more overall damage than those two items would. Do you honestly think I couldnt have had those items if I wanted them? I spent 200mil and worked a year and a half for apoc. Should be pretty obvious if I had wanted to go that path I could have. Guess what? I can still get those items. Guess what? Most of the currenty maxed out drk gear is going to be obsolete. Guess what isn't going to ever be obsolete? The relic. Idiots like you who critque a relic's gear like that are just butt hurt jealous retards. I may not have maxed gear but all my gear is properly used. Do you really think I have a lack of understanding of the game because I don't have some epeen items?

You are a nazi
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2010-07-08 19:12:58  
Bismarck.Maxse said:
Cerberus.Excelior said:
Bismarck.Maxse said:
Maybe you should spend less time acting like you know what you are talking about on the forums and more time upgrading your shitty gear, its people like you that make me sick relic a bunch of gimp gear in other slots.

I see. Rather than admit that you're wrong you would rather insult people. Let me ask you, which is harder to get: a relic or ebody/vbelt? A relic would obviously be harder. While some people spent their time going after those items I chose to go after a relic. A relic contributes more overall damage than those two items would. Do you honestly think I couldnt have had those items if I wanted them? I spent 200mil and worked a year and a half for apoc. Should be pretty obvious if I had wanted to go that path I could have. Guess what? I can still get those items. Guess what? Most of the currenty maxed out drk gear is going to be obsolete. Guess what isn't going to ever be obsolete? The relic. Idiots like you who critque a relic's gear like that are just butt hurt jealous retards. I may not have maxed gear but all my gear is properly used. Do you really think I have a lack of understanding of the game because I don't have some epeen items?

I'm an idiot


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By Gilgamesh.Samuraiking 2010-07-08 19:14:01  
He's made 2 references to hitler, he's just testing out the troll tips that one chick posted a while back. I'll give a 6/10.
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2010-07-08 19:14:45  
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Bismarck.Maxse said:
Cerberus.Excelior said:
Bismarck.Maxse said:
Maybe you should spend less time acting like you know what you are talking about on the forums and more time upgrading your shitty gear, its people like you that make me sick relic a bunch of gimp gear in other slots.

I see. Rather than admit that you're wrong you would rather insult people. Let me ask you, which is harder to get: a relic or ebody/vbelt? A relic would obviously be harder. While some people spent their time going after those items I chose to go after a relic. A relic contributes more overall damage than those two items would. Do you honestly think I couldnt have had those items if I wanted them? I spent 200mil and worked a year and a half for apoc. Should be pretty obvious if I had wanted to go that path I could have. Guess what? I can still get those items. Guess what? Most of the currenty maxed out drk gear is going to be obsolete. Guess what isn't going to ever be obsolete? The relic. Idiots like you who critque a relic's gear like that are just butt hurt jealous retards. I may not have maxed gear but all my gear is properly used. Do you really think I have a lack of understanding of the game because I don't have some epeen items?

I'm an idiot


You know I didnt even read anything he even said cause its all a bunch of dribble coming form the mouth of a noob.
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By Bahamut.Valencea 2010-07-08 19:15:04  
http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/?topic_id=11842

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By Bismarck.Maxse 2010-07-08 19:23:23  
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http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/?topic_id=11842

#4

Nice cloud poster in the background I approve.
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By Bahamut.Valencea 2010-07-08 19:25:38  
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Bahamut.Valencea said:
http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/?topic_id=11842 #4
Nice cloud poster in the background I approve.

You probably wouldn't approve if i told you the poster next to it (the one im blocking) is a deathnote poster =x
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2010-07-08 19:26:37  
Bahamut.Valencea said:
Bismarck.Maxse said:
Bahamut.Valencea said:
http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/?topic_id=11842 #4
Nice cloud poster in the background I approve.

You probably wouldn't approve if i told you the poster next to it (the one im blocking) is a deathnote poster =x

Whats wrong with Death Note?