Sam 75+ Questions And Gear

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After reading this, I've decided I am in favor of abortion in cases of incest

Yep.

Change Bushi to Wyvern, then you can worry about Torques/PCC and Aces/Wally


As for mix and match vs 5/5 Usukane, that will depend on the target and your food, but mix and match + pizza is normally the best. Unless 5/5 Usukane allows you to eat meat.

Why do people keep insisting on the tp grip?

Isn't it only +11 stp after full Store TP merits as lvl 75SAM to get a 6-hit? Wouldn't goading belt(+5), rajas ring(+5), brutal earring(+1), chiv chain(+1)/Unkai Nodowa(+3) give you either +12 or +14 stp? I'm just trying to clarify.

It depends on your weapon.

For Hagun (delay:450) or any other 450 delay Great Katana, Rose Strap is unnecessary, since Rajas Ring (+5)+ Brutal Earring (+1) + either Usukane Sune-Ate (+7), Hachiman Sune-Ate (+5), or Askar Korazin (+5) gives you the Store TP needed to 6-hit with full merits.

However, many SAMs are now using higher delay Great Katanas, created by Trial of the Magians. When using a higher delay weapon, it's possible to make a reasonable 5-hit build, and one of the key pieces is the Rose Grip (+4).

Well for starters you are using many slots that are used for better options, such as a PCC in neck, or Jtorque. Then you want to maintain as much haste as possible, so for those who own Vbelt, Goading is a weaker option unless you can achieve a 5hit. Chiv chain is okay, but still loses out to superior slots, whereas grips generally offer minimal increases.

Goading isn't standard gear yet since it drops from Lacovie and trading Pole out for Rose is a better trade than Goading for Velocious or Bullwhip Belt. It's really only for those who have Swift or are trying for a 5hit.

'cos rose+rajas+brutal+ecp ring is the best way to 6hit SAM w/o usukane body or goading belt.

You lose no haste, 1-3 accuracy and 2 DA.
Every other combination of gear (Hachi hands or feet, askar body etc) lose a lot more accuracy or haste.

Ah, thanks for clearing that up.

I personally really want a Goading belt at the moment. I've never really been a fan of the swift belt, I've just used it to get around 19-20% haste on my SAM..

But the enmity on and stp on Goading belt will help both my SAM and PLD. No clue how I'm going to get it though...

Wow, lots of info.

Thanks, I will work on Byakko's as soon as I get a good end game shell. I picked up a smil+1 and had a warwolf belt aleardy. As for the W. Turban, I have 1000 bronze pieces but Chochoroon has been taken so I cant get it yet.

Thanks for the merit suggestions and the gear setup is just amazing. =p

Nice. Those are all things I think about and like to work on.

So once I add W. Turban to my Fumas, Dusks, and Swift Belt Ill be at 15% Haste.

I camped O Kotes and legs in O Castle, Bounding Boots, Empress, went 1/2 on Swift Belt, Beat Cop for Rajas (Prommies before update), I just got sky access and Im on Devine Might for earring. What more could I have done by my 5th month? Bleh.

Good info thanks. What about Stp while in WS set? I mean I macro back to TP set before first swing, so does that not matter?

Also, Im on the last fight of Acp and was going to grab this. Is this completely worthless inplace of the Hauby?

Nuevo Coselete Rare Ex
[Body] All Races
DEF:49 HP+20 STR+5 DEX+5 VIT+5
LV 75 WAR PLD DRK SAM DRG

Acc. +10
Store Tp +4 Subtle Blow +4

If this is for a 450 delay GK such as hagun, rajas and brutal will be enough stp in ws to keep you at a 6hit build, my opinion save the coselete for something else! Also 78 upgrade hauby to perle.

edit: shinimusha haidate are a good alt until byakko's, these will allow you to tp in dusk gloves and fuma, assuming you have stp fully merited, which should be your first priority after dinging 75.

Unless I'm mistaken NQ Haub would be a better choice over Perle Hauberk if not using the full set.

nope perle is better

TP or WS?

I can't be bothered to read the entire thread.

I should have clarified that I was referring to for TP.

then dont bother posting.

but,

....full perle at 78 if you dont have byakkos, ws in perle body (perle head isnt bad either) at 78 if you dont have osode

edit: Somehow managed to forget fuma's and didn't give swift belt to the perle set. Shouldn't post when I'm tired lol.

with op's gear atm full perle + rajas + chiv chain + ecphoria ring + rose strap would net him a 6hit with 14 haste(not counting the swift as it doesnt matter pertaining to this)
this is better than
11 haste from w.turban, dusk gloves, and fumas

Where have you been these last four years in ffxi if you think 2 haste isnt better?

of course once op gets byakkos he should be using them.

Yeah, with a 450 delay weapon... SAM needs +46 StoreTP for TP, and +44 StoreTP for WS, for a 6hit build.

So, if he doesn't have Byakko's Haidate yet...

He could do Full perle set + rajas + Brutal earring + rose strap + Chiv chain (or Ecphoria ring instead of Chiv chain)... so that plus 25 STP Jobtrait and +10 StoreTP from merits, he'll have +46 STP for TP, and +14% haste in full perle.

For WS just needed +44 StoreTP, which is jobtrait,merits, rajas, rose strap. (brutal should still go in there though)

sam cant wear blitz, he needs both chiv chain and ecphoria equipped during tp phase to maintain a 6hit in addition to having rajas and brutal rose strap, if using full perle.

Nope, just need 11 STP during TP phase. 16.7*5+16.6=100.1

lol brain fart on the blitz ring there. I'll fix that...

But unless I'm overlooking something here.. why chiv chain + ecphoria if he only needs +46STP for TP and +44 for WS?

op doesnt have brutal, not sure why i added it to one of my posts though

Yeah, I was gonna say... I was pretty sure I had done the math right on that...

11.5 base TP per hit.

For TP: 11.5 * .46 = 5.29 + 11.5 = 16.7 TP

For WS: 11.5 * .44 = 5.06 + 11.5 = 16.5 TP

16.7 * 5 = 83.5 TP for 5 swings.

83.5 TP + 16.5 TP = 100% TP

I meant to say rose strap instead of brutal its fixed now

lol np it happens... but yeah, you're right... if he doesn't have brutal earring, he can do it with chiv chain + ecphoria ring then, yeah.

He should be getting brutal soon though, considering that he already has a rajas ring <.<

Full time Domaru, it's the obvious choice

Actually if you don't have askar or usu body domaru is a good choice to keep a 5hit with the new GK. One second let me make some item sets.

edit:

TP

Can swap out domaru with askar or usu and swift with goading, but this is a fairly easy to obtain 5hit. Usu feet with lol hachiman.
TP per hit 20.4

WS

TP per hit 19

(20.4*4)+19=100.6 <- 5hit without sacrificing too much str on ws phase.

Can get around using usu feet by using
Hachiman hands
Chiv chain
Atilla's earring
Ecphoria ring
This will bring you to 20.3 tp per hit allowing you to tp in fumas and ws in full str + hachiman body

Back to OP. Me. I don't have Rose Strap or Brutal yet.