Best GK?

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 Caitsith.Enygma
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By Caitsith.Enygma 2010-09-16 22:09:53  




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I was looking for the best non mythic/relic trial weapon for sam. I know masumune would be best besides relic/mythic but looking for something actually obtainable. Besides SAM isn't my main, just looking for a decent end game GK from magian trials.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-09-16 22:19:46  
Keitonotachi +1 with weapon skill dmg +10% ...if you are able to get the gear to 5hit it, without ridiculous sacrifices. (namely in the haste department etc.)

Else, go with Keitonotachi +1 with storeTP+10 and make a 5hit build with it.

You need at least +64 StoreTP total for a 5hit build with 464 delay. (+29STP in gear, if assuming storeTP jobtrait and max storeTP merits)
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-09-16 22:28:13  
OAT GKT go
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-16 22:29:29  
since the WS+10% dmg one is now 5 hittable (AF3+1 helps a ton, dont need +2 but helps obviously lol) so that would be best imho. I'm not sure the 8 str will give you a 10% boost in dmg (because lets face it, the att+ is moot for ygk 9 times out of 10....)

so my vote is the WS dmg+10% GK as its currently the one I've been working on. Its really nice even with just kasha+10%. I bust out some monster Kasha dmg, and when it upgrades its going to even upgrade my Gekkos. The GK itself has a high D rating and will also boost the dmg of those Ranas I so love to use hehe.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2010-09-16 22:33:17  
Fenrir.Mankey said:
OAT GKT go

I LOVE YOUR AVATAR!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHH
/faint
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-09-16 22:33:27  
Fenrir.Mankey said:
OAT GKT go

Well yeah, but he didn't have that on that list... I thought OP wanted a comparison between those 3 that he posted.

He probably doesn't have the means to get the items for the OAT GK.
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By Phoenix.Airbag 2010-09-16 22:35:52  
Asura.Ludoggy said:

I lol'd

*** gimpstamon stealing my ugly towngear
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2010-09-16 22:36:40  
I'm picturing Hagun like the BST + CC picture, just a SAM and a Hagun instead.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2010-09-16 22:39:52  
Phoenix.Airbag said:
Asura.Ludoggy said:

I lol'd

*** gimpstamon stealing my ugly towngear
He was gonna solo zone bosses in abyssea with it though!
 
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-09-16 23:05:44  
Unkai Legs +1? Shouldn't be too hard to get and apparently they add 5% more to Hasso.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-16 23:17:09  
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Unkai Legs +1? Shouldn't be too hard to get and apparently they add 5% more to Hasso.


gtfo.. 9% haste? plz tell me where you found this
 
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2010-09-17 00:27:10  
1)Fudo GK (coin path)
2)OAT+DMG
3)Keiten+1
4)STR/ATK
5)2-3Trial
6)Soro
7)Hagun
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-09-17 00:45:57  
Caitsith.Kilorilo said:
5-hit OAT Kokushitsunotachi(+1) should win in most situations. An easier GKT would probably be, as said, a 5-hit Keito WS:DMG+10%



Ignoring the +2 kabuto, but with it you can drop either nodowa or white tath+ecphoria. Unless I'm missing new gear, i think thats the best option, assuming you have the gear to go with the gkt.

Like I said earlier, you need at least +64 StoreTP total for a 5hit build with 464 delay. (+29STP in gear, if assuming storeTP jobtrait and max storeTP merits)

Math:

However, you would have to have 64STP for Weaponskill too though, if you go with the minimum of 64 StoreTP for TP.

Now, on to the gear set that you posted. If you have that gear then, yes, you could go with all that StoreTP for TP, so that you can WS in better gear etc.

So your set would be good because:

With that gear set that you posted, you have 69STP for TP, and this allows you to WS in just 45STP. (freeing up slots for better WS pieces etc.)

Math for the 69STP for TP, and 45STP for WS:

And like you said, if you have Unkai kabuto +2 on the gear set that you posted, you could then drop either the Unkai nodowa or white tathlum + ecphoria ring.... from your TP gear set.

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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-09-17 01:32:06  
Caitsith.Shiroi said:
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Unkai Legs +1? Shouldn't be too hard to get and apparently they add 5% more to Hasso.

it's actually being tested between 2 and 3%...

Yeah I was thinking of the +2, those were the ones mentioned in the other thread. Still, the +1 aren't a bad option.
 
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2010-09-17 02:28:15  
Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Unkai Legs +1 gives you the Hasso effect without having the JA on.

Enhance = Always active.

Augment = use JA and equipment together to get the bonus.

As far as exact #s I'm not sure, but still the best TP legs for SAM weather it's the +1 or +2.

I put the haidate (+1) on, use Hasso and click it off: I lost the strength bonus.

I put the haidate (+1) on, use Hasso and shift it to Seigan afterward: Once again, I lost the strength.


You may want to be more specific with, "gives you the Hasso effect without having the JA on", because I'm surely not getting the strength bit of it at least.
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By Asura.Shua 2010-09-17 02:33:01  
Bismarck.Rinomaru said:
1)Fudo GK (coin path)
2)OAT+DMG
3)Keiten+1
4)STR/ATK
5)2-3Trial
6)Soro
7)Hagun


I strong Disagree with Hagun's positioning.
 
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2010-09-17 02:38:46  
Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Nowhere in my post did I imply a STR boost lol
Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Unkai Legs +1 gives you the Hasso effect without having the JA on.

Uh.

And Blitzer's Roll lowers TP gain per hit; if you're going to use something to relate to this matter, use Haste Samba before even more confusion is amassed.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2010-09-17 02:43:47  
That's fine and dandy, but I also saw you preaching this enhance/augment theory earlier in the day, which according to you,

Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Enhance = Always active.

Augment = use JA and equipment together to get the bonus.



wut?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-09-17 02:51:43  
Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Unkai Legs +1 gives you the Hasso effect without having the JA on.

Enhance = Always active.

Augment = use JA and equipment together to get the bonus.

As far as exact #s I'm not sure, but still the best TP legs for SAM weather it's the +1 or +2.
wait wut

No cop-outs on this one, sorry. Posting speculation like that and treating it as fact with no evidence is a bad move.
 
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-09-17 11:12:25  
Most likely ONLY works when you have Hasso on.
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2010-09-17 11:19:51  
Lakshmi.Mabrook said:


Enhance = Always active.

Augment = use JA and equipment together to get the bonus.
Suppanomimi doesn't give you native DW.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2010-09-17 11:26:08  


Just putting this out there (in case someone thought relic equipment didn't receive the according Augment help text).

And yeah, as stated above, job trait =/= job ability.
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