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 Lakshmi.Abaddon
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By Lakshmi.Abaddon 2010-10-09 06:33:58  
Think drk will get this spell?

I sure hope so.

Give it like super low recast. But like twice the casting cost of dr
ain 1.
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By Shiva.Superdan 2010-10-09 07:05:03  
I doubt it to be honest. Don't really need it with nether void Drain2.

If DRK got any magic update.. It should get some kind of boost to it's ele magic so that it isn't completely useless.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2010-10-09 07:41:58  

Shiva.Superdan said:
I doubt it to be honest. Don't really need it with nether void Drain2.

If DRK got any magic update.. It should get some kind of boost to it's ele magic so that it isn't completely useless.

I doubt so too.
As for the ele magic boost they aleady started giving DRK a reason to nuke by introducing Occult Acument trait and adding more Macc gear such as bale sollerets +2. However it's still not enough.

It would be nice if they gave DRK some Macc trait to help land those spells better or add a new line of Absorb spells (Absorb-Attack, Absorb-Defense ..)
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2010-10-09 07:51:58  


Nether Void is my Drain III >:)

Did this to a Tauri mob in T3 Einherjar.

Was a normal drain as you can see not a magic burst, could only imagine the damage that would have done as a burst :(
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By Odin.Sheelay 2010-10-09 07:53:20  
Fenrir.Gradd said:


Nether Void is my Drain III >:)

Did this to a Tauri mob in T3 Einherjar.

That's pretty impressive. Now all you need is Absorb-Attack!!!
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By Hades.Yajarumijiju 2010-10-09 08:57:55  
i hope we got absorn-hp

and absorb-mp to cuz i run out of mp alot of times
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2010-10-09 09:01:25  
Hades.Yajarumijiju said:
i hope we got absorn-hp

and absorb-mp to cuz i run out of mp alot of times
Well...I...what?

This is sarcasm right?
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By Asura.Masekase 2010-10-09 09:04:14  
Cerberus.Tidis said:
Hades.Yajarumijiju said:
i hope we got absorn-hp

and absorb-mp to cuz i run out of mp alot of times
Well...I...what?

This is sarcasm right?

Yes I hope it is lol
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 Asura.Masekase
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By Asura.Masekase 2010-10-09 09:11:15  
Absorb - Macc would be nice.

Maybe a form of absorbing buffs from the mob too.
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By RingmastersWord 2010-10-09 10:26:39  
Asura.Masekase said:
Absorb - Macc would be nice.

Maybe a form of absorbing buffs from the mob too.

Sounds more like something Blu would get imo.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2010-10-09 10:48:29  
Osmosis lol
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By deathshade 2010-10-09 10:56:53  
oh theres already a couple those out there with the uh name of drain and uh aspir I think. I could be wrong
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2010-10-09 11:15:02  
Shiva.Superdan said:
I doubt it to be honest. Don't really need it with nether void Drain2. If DRK got any magic update.. It should get some kind of boost to it's ele magic so that it isn't completely useless.
Having the nuking power equivalent of RDM might make it effective. Not too weak, not overpowered, and it wouldn't put any job on the sidelines.
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By Valefor.Raucent 2010-10-09 16:26:18  
drk has higher elemental skill then rdm 311 vs 285 yet rdm gets T4s and magic atk bonus. yeah se is really inspiring us to nuke more often /sarcasm
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2010-10-09 16:28:21  
should allow drk's to melee while nuking
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By Sylph.Krsone 2010-10-09 17:48:15  
Lakshmi.Abaddon said:
Think drk will get this spell? I sure hope so. Give it like super low recast. But like twice the casting cost of dr ain 1.

Biggest dr
ain ive seen is 1600 on a flan floor2 BR, very unlikely drk will get dr
ain3 though you would see as
pir3 first before you se a dr
ain3.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-10-09 17:48:16  
Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said:
should allow drk's to melee while nuking

While this concept (of being able to swing your weapon while casting) would be awesome in theory, it is also quite unrealistic to think that SE would do such a thing for drk.

On the other hand, and I've said this before, I would like to see SE at least removing the 50% penalty on recast and casting time of Dark magic spells while casting with hasso or seigan on. (can leave the penalty for Ninjutsu etc for obvious reasons.)

Also, some FastCast jobtraits would be welcomed as well, and not unrealistic... considering SE apparently wants us to cast more...but who knows.

Sylph.Krsone said:

Biggest drain ive seen is 1600 on a flan floor2 BR, very unlikely drk will get drain3 though you would see aspir3 first before you se a drain3.

Well, DRK actually gets Drain at lv10, but aspir at lv20, and Drain2 at lv62, but aspir2 at lv78. Considering that, I would think that if DRK actually gets Aspir3, they would get Drain3 first.

I don't know if DRK will get drain3 though, probably not...but who knows.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2010-10-09 18:29:26  
All SE needed to do to enhance Drain and Aspir spells was give us more Dark magic skill, and they have with bale flanchard +2

+15 skill is simply a ridiculous amount of skill to get out of just one item.
And ideally a DRK Magic skill build could go as high as +61!


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By Sylph.Krsone 2010-10-09 18:31:06  
Ohshi youre right reason I thought it was that way around is on blm I got aspir 2 but no drain 2 yet obviously and its been years and years since i bought the tier1 ones. I just checked ur right aspir is later than drain wasnt thinking straight. Even so its very unlikely tier3 of either spell will get released. Aim to work on improving ur existing builds perhaps? I often find drk's dont bother with that much gear for spells and I only got 66 drk but their drk magic strength has often interested me. Excelsis ring/ hirud earring/ anrin obi/ omega ring gogo.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2010-10-09 18:42:04  
If you can imagine BLMs spending several hundred thousand Gil on HQ staves back when they were the best then you'll see a dedicated DRK could more than likely find reasons to spend time and money into item builds such as these.


Drain/Aspir


Absorb-Stats


Nuke
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By Ragnarok.Wrongtheboss 2010-10-09 18:52:51  
Odin.Sheelay said:
If you can imagine BLMs spending several hundred thousand Gil on HQ staves back when they were the best then you'll see a dedicated DRK could more than likely find reasons to spend time and money into item builds such as these.


Drain/Aspir


Absorb-Stats


Nuke

Vic. Mufs dont boost aspir/drain, but only Absorb-Stat. spells.
 Odin.Sheelay
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By Odin.Sheelay 2010-10-09 18:59:17  
Hence why I called that build Absorb-Stats..
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By Odin.Sheelay 2010-10-09 19:02:04  
Also, I forgot to add Absorb-TP build, which is not affected by Plastron armor set or Vicious mufflers

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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2010-10-09 19:17:06  
thats a lot of gear considering if you keep a TP, WS, & dark magic skill & absorb set xD
i think SE is trying to make an all purpose set..
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By Odin.Sheelay 2010-10-09 19:19:22  
lol I know, it was just an example to show the gear is out there.
But let's be honest, most people with a main job will more than likely consider expanding beyond the usual TP and WS builds to fully exploit their job
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2010-10-09 19:24:49  
Odin.Sheelay said:
lol I know, it was just an example to show the gear is out there. But let's be honest, most people with a main job will more than likely consider expanding beyond the usual TP and WS builds to fully exploit their job
who actually sticks to only 1 job?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-10-09 19:24:49  
Well if you're going to post all those magic gear sets, Sheelay, besides the ones you already mentioned, there's also:

-Dreadspikes set. (HP, dark skill, and some Fastcast from homam and loquacios etc.)

-Enfeebling magic set. (enfeeb skill/magic acc, and INT etc.)

-Bio set. (Bio set consisting of some magic attack bonus to increase the initial dmg of bio, and...of course, also Dark magic skill for the per tick dmg. At least 291+ dark skill gives the 8/tick BioII, which shouldn't be a problem to achieve.)
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2010-10-09 19:26:02  
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Well if you're going to post all those magic gear sets, Sheelay, besides the ones you already mentioned, there's also: -Dreadspikes set. (HP, dark skill, and some Fastcast from homam and loquacios etc.) -Enfeebling magic set. (enfeeb skill/magic acc, and INT etc.) -Bio set. (Bio set consisting of some magic attack bonus to increase the initial dmg of bio, and...of course, also Dark magic skill for the per tick dmg. At least 291+ dark skill gives the 8/tick BioII, which shouldn't be a problem to achieve.)
theoretically. how much skill is needed for 20/tick bio II ?
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By Odin.Sheelay 2010-10-09 19:29:22  
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Well if you're going to post all those magic gear sets, Sheelay, besides the ones you already mentioned, there's also:

-Dreadspikes set. (HP, dark skill, and some Fastcast from homam and loquacios etc.)

-Enfeebling magic set. (enfeeb skill/magic acc, and INT etc.)

-Bio set. (Bio set consisting of some magic attack bonus to increase the initial dmg of bio, and...of course, also Dark magic skill for the per tick dmg. At least 291+ dark skill gives the 8/tick BioII, which shouldn't be a problem to achieve.)

I made some ideal sets for those also, I just figured posting 7 sets would be a bit overwhelming
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2010-10-09 19:31:39  
Absorbing Stats is fail don't do it. You hurt your overall DPS wasting time casting those spells just to get Decaying stats.
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