Will PLD Be Useful Again At Lvl 99?

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 Carbuncle.Sevourn
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-10-13 21:55:25  
Ramuh.Thunderz said:
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Fenrir.Mtmoogle said:
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Diabolos.Piraal said:
I'm pretty sure most aegis pld have MDB sets, be pretty sad if they didn't, but I think it's fair to say that most DD jobs don't bother with one.
a relic isn't an automatic sign of a good player as bigpun so amply demonstrated
good or bad player.
an aegis pld probably have multiple MDB sets seeing how much was invested in the job. skill is irrelevent there


bg's gimpthread says otherwise

the skills you need to get a relic(intense patience/a lot of money for rmt/the patience/resources to fishbot on multiple characters/large scale manipulation of fellow players)

are an entirely different skillset than the ability to play the game well

sometimes they coincide and you get a good player with a relic

sometimes they do not and you get a gimpthread entry


your new avy is throwing me soo off. I expect potato face and end up with dora the explorer o.o

which is better
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-13 21:55:51  
Fenrir.Snick said:
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Odin.Zicdeh said:
Maybe I'm just mired in the OP, but the thread is about PLD being useful, not being the best. If everyone were to just use "The best" job, FFXI would consist of BLU, RDM and BRD, and not a goddamn thing else.
I hope I'm being wooshed cause you forgot COR, DNC and MNK. And get rid of BLU.
I hope I'm being whoosed here because you said get rid of blu
I really don't wanna go over this again. Basically anything BLU can do something can do better.

But again, Nightfyre in my LS, BLU all the time (pretty much). And just recruited another BLU ***.
Name one job that can generate more hate without engaging? Name 1 job that place more hate more consistently on tanks while staying out of range. Oh and job specific debuffs. Rediculous dmg nowadays.

Also pretty sure anything a mnk can do another job can do better :)
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2010-10-13 21:57:03  
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Ramuh.Thunderz said:
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Fenrir.Mtmoogle said:
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Diabolos.Piraal said:
I'm pretty sure most aegis pld have MDB sets, be pretty sad if they didn't, but I think it's fair to say that most DD jobs don't bother with one.
a relic isn't an automatic sign of a good player as bigpun so amply demonstrated
good or bad player.
an aegis pld probably have multiple MDB sets seeing how much was invested in the job. skill is irrelevent there


bg's gimpthread says otherwise

the skills you need to get a relic(intense patience/a lot of money for rmt/the patience/resources to fishbot on multiple characters/large scale manipulation of fellow players)

are an entirely different skillset than the ability to play the game well

sometimes they coincide and you get a good player with a relic

sometimes they do not and you get a gimpthread entry


your new avy is throwing me soo off. I expect potato face and end up with dora the explorer o.o

which is better

I expect Potato face, but Dora's neat because it implies a condescending attitude. Also the avatar is crisper/cleaner.
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By Fenrir.Snick 2010-10-13 21:58:38  
How many fights can you not engage anymore? JoL maybe?

Also hate mechanics :/ a DD will constantly recap it lol this is basic stuff that's been covered before in this very topic.

wtf is a job specific debuff? Terror? lol
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Also pretty sure anything a mnk can do another job can do better :)
ok you are just a dumbass.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-10-13 21:58:44  
Leviathan.Niniann said:

I expect Potato face, but Dora's neat because it implies a condescending attitude. Also the avatar is crisper/cleaner.


do you mean to imply i come across as condescending :O
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2010-10-13 21:59:48  
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Leviathan.Niniann said:

I expect Potato face, but Dora's neat because it implies a condescending attitude. Also the avatar is crisper/cleaner.


do you mean to imply i come across as condescending :O

Why would I ever imply such a thing? :<
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-10-13 22:00:52  
Leviathan.Niniann said:
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Leviathan.Niniann said:

I expect Potato face, but Dora's neat because it implies a condescending attitude. Also the avatar is crisper/cleaner.


do you mean to imply i come across as condescending :O

Why would I ever imply such a thing? :<


i can't fathom

anyway i'm only condescending toward the bigpuns of the site

if you said one of my jobs was dicked up i would say yes ma'am and ask how to fix it
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2010-10-13 22:03:46  
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Leviathan.Niniann said:
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Leviathan.Niniann said:

I expect Potato face, but Dora's neat because it implies a condescending attitude. Also the avatar is crisper/cleaner.


do you mean to imply i come across as condescending :O

Why would I ever imply such a thing? :<


i can't fathom

anyway i'm only condescending toward the bigpuns of the site

if you said one of my jobs was dicked up i would say yes ma'am and ask how to fix it

Oh I know, I lurk here enough~
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-13 22:21:57  
Fenrir.Snick said:
How many fights can you not engage anymore? JoL maybe?

Also hate mechanics :/ a DD will constantly recap it lol this is basic stuff that's been covered before in this very topic.

wtf is a job specific debuff? Terror? lol
Um all kites? People without certian jobs and/or enough support. Turns out not everyone fights exactly the same way you do on everything.

Takes 8k dmg to cap CE against a lvl 95 mob. Most NMs have what 50-60k hp at most with plenty more around the 20-30k range? Good luck having all your DDs capping CE on them if you have a decent amount of them. Especially if they take any dmg or lose any shadows.

Magic def down? Def down when ja timers for other jobs are down? tp stealing. Disease. Being able to do both light and dark based sleepga. -evasion. Sure feint every few min and some ws but easier. Aoe versions of stun and flash. Highest att down in the game. Highest -str and -agi in the game. Also supposedly gravity and binds that mobs don't build resistance to.
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By Fenrir.Snick 2010-10-13 22:27:49  
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Um all kites? People without certian jobs and/or enough support. Turns out not everyone fights exactly the same way you do on everything.
Reading comprehension. We're talking about an absolute best situation, a magical world where people not having proper jobs leveled doesn't exist.

And if this was a question of doing things the way I do then you would use a BLU? How many times have I said in this very thread that I play with Nightfyre almost all the time and he's on BLU 90% of the time?

Who needs to read posts? It's much easier to just make an *** of yourself.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-13 22:28:56  
Fenrir.Snick said:
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Um all kites? People without certian jobs and/or enough support. Turns out not everyone fights exactly the same way you do on everything.
Reading comprehension. We're talking about an absolute best situation, a magical world where people not having proper jobs leveled doesn't exist.
Oh sorry. Continue on in your fantasy land
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By matt 2010-10-13 22:31:59  
omg this is still going on.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-10-13 22:33:08  
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Fenrir.Snick said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Um all kites? People without certian jobs and/or enough support. Turns out not everyone fights exactly the same way you do on everything.
Reading comprehension. We're talking about an absolute best situation, a magical world where people not having proper jobs leveled doesn't exist.
Oh sorry. Continue on in your fantasy land
Who said anything about fantasies? It's a discussion about the relative merits of each job. If this was a fantasy land, I wouldn't be the only RDM and DNC in the shell.
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By Fenrir.Yinsha 2010-10-13 22:33:24  
inb4 99 Aegis with -25% MDT, +25 MDB, -25% PDT, +50 Enmity, Enemy Critical Hit Rate -30%, +100 to all resistances, HP +15%, Augments Shield Bash III, Shield Bash II, Reflect, Flash II, Occasionaly procs Super Saiyan, Over 9000 charges to summon Chuck Norris, and Additional Effect: Terror.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-13 22:36:53  
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Fenrir.Snick said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Um all kites? People without certian jobs and/or enough support. Turns out not everyone fights exactly the same way you do on everything.
Reading comprehension. We're talking about an absolute best situation, a magical world where people not having proper jobs leveled doesn't exist.
Oh sorry. Continue on in your fantasy land
Who said anything about fantasies? It's a discussion about the relative merits of each job. If this was a fantasy land, I wouldn't be the only RDM and DNC in the shell.
Kinda my point really.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-10-13 22:37:40  
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Fenrir.Snick said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Um all kites? People without certian jobs and/or enough support. Turns out not everyone fights exactly the same way you do on everything.
Reading comprehension. We're talking about an absolute best situation, a magical world where people not having proper jobs leveled doesn't exist.
Oh sorry. Continue on in your fantasy land
Who said anything about fantasies? It's a discussion about the relative merits of each job. If this was a fantasy land, I wouldn't be the only RDM and DNC in the shell.
Kinda my point really.
Meaning that you don't have a point relevant to the discussion at hand?
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2010-10-13 22:46:39  
Can I be the Queen of Fantasy Land?
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By Fenrir.Snick 2010-10-13 22:48:40  
I lost my virginity to a guy who took me to fantasy land :<

I think his name was Niniann too, which is the weird part.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-13 22:50:10  
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Fenrir.Snick said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Um all kites? People without certian jobs and/or enough support. Turns out not everyone fights exactly the same way you do on everything.
Reading comprehension. We're talking about an absolute best situation, a magical world where people not having proper jobs leveled doesn't exist.
Oh sorry. Continue on in your fantasy land
Who said anything about fantasies? It's a discussion about the relative merits of each job. If this was a fantasy land, I wouldn't be the only RDM and DNC in the shell.
Kinda my point really.
Meaning that you don't have a point relevant to the discussion at hand?
No my point being if you want to discuss relative merits of each job using only the most ideal situations and setups might not completely cover it
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2010-10-13 22:52:23  
Fenrir.Snick said:
I lost my virginity to a guy who took me to fantasy land :<

I think his name was Niniann too, which is the weird part.

I... don't... know... what to say.....

You win.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-13 22:53:52  
Leviathan.Niniann said:
Fenrir.Snick said:
I lost my virginity to a guy who took me to fantasy land :<

I think his name was Niniann too, which is the weird part.
I... don't... know... what to say.....

You win.
I could be wrong but from the sounds of his story I think you won
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By Titan.Darkwizardzin 2010-10-13 22:54:30  
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Fenrir.Snick said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Um all kites? People without certian jobs and/or enough support. Turns out not everyone fights exactly the same way you do on everything.
Reading comprehension. We're talking about an absolute best situation, a magical world where people not having proper jobs leveled doesn't exist.
Oh sorry. Continue on in your fantasy land
Who said anything about fantasies? It's a discussion about the relative merits of each job. If this was a fantasy land, I wouldn't be the only RDM and DNC in the shell.
Kinda my point really.
Meaning that you don't have a point relevant to the discussion at hand?
No my point being if you want to discuss relative merits of each job using only the most ideal situations and setups might not completely cover it
Wow... that is a very good point.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-10-13 23:34:36  
Wow, Dasva making an idiot out of himself in this thread? Shocker.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-13 23:39:59  
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Wow, Dasva making an idiot out of himself in this thread? Shocker.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-10-13 23:47:51  
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Bahamut.Serj said:
Wow, Dasva making an idiot out of himself in this thread? Shocker.



I just wanted an excuse to use that pic >_> carry on.
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By Shiva.Killmer 2010-10-17 01:06:15  
always priceless to see bigpun make an idiot of himself.

such a waste of a perfectly good aegis
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By Mortechai 2010-10-17 22:11:18  

"ya cept i dont care bout a couple -pdt i got aegis, the haute gives me a higher dps without feeding a lot of tp like joytoy, has add effect so i dont bother wasting mp with the new en spell, and the 7 acc is always a bonus, besides the fact im working on almace and debating bout making excalibur"

I cried tears of laughter while reading this. Give your aegis to a real paladin bro, save your LS some trouble.
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By Phoenix.Excelior 2010-10-17 22:31:30  
Mortechai said:
"ya cept i dont care bout a couple -pdt i got aegis, the haute gives me a higher dps without feeding a lot of tp like joytoy, has add effect so i dont bother wasting mp with the new en spell, and the 7 acc is always a bonus, besides the fact im working on almace and debating bout making excalibur" I cried tears of laughter while reading this. Give your aegis to a real paladin bro, save your LS some trouble.

If you use hauteclaire then you should sell your account to a real PLD.
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By Bahamut.Aiyana 2010-10-17 22:32:40  
Phoenix.Excelior said:
Mortechai said:
"ya cept i dont care bout a couple -pdt i got aegis, the haute gives me a higher dps without feeding a lot of tp like joytoy, has add effect so i dont bother wasting mp with the new en spell, and the 7 acc is always a bonus, besides the fact im working on almace and debating bout making excalibur" I cried tears of laughter while reading this. Give your aegis to a real paladin bro, save your LS some trouble.

If you use hauteclaire then you should sell your account to a real PLD.

Towngear yo !
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