Sylph.Gredival said:
Quad attacking on a single hit WS isn't special either with multiple attack priority and when you consider that the single hit WS aren't natural criticals so they are pretty much trash. Evisceration is OP now and that's just fact. Even Mandau has sunk to new lows because the RR makes Evis ***on Mercy Stroke.
I'm a doubter of Twilight Knife because I don't think it works well with triple attack stacking atma which I think are going to be our cookie-cutter. Sure it can be a good dagger in some circumstances, but I see it really as a mainhand... when we're talking an ideal situation your main is Twashtar or Mandau, and I can't see this being a good offhand. A third of swings giving 10 TP boils down to giving 3 more TP than normal per swing. I don't think that's a winner for offhand, even with quad attack.
And the bandwagon is usually much more pro-Abyssea so it's most likely to be pro-Twilight.
I guess with a Mandau or Thwastar its situations are dampened significantly.
*and hur dur thread is Mandau/offhand*
However for the average THF, Twilight/Triplus is actually a really good combo.
Its got 3 Less damage than a Kila+2, And same delay, as well as significant bonuses that i think you scoff off too lightly in the eyes of questionable reasoning and math.
I'd imagine sometime soon (Hello 95/99 cap...) Twilight will indefinitely be replaced for just about everyone except being a toy (and hey, my RDM can use it, I'm sure it'll be used on RDM forever), but right now, for a Relic-less THF, Twilight/Triplus would be the best combo i can think of for the time being >(INSIDE)< Abyssea.
(for its Situation, obv high-Damage only it would change, Subtle blow would change it (Auric), or maybe Pure-speed would change (auric/Sax?))
(Cause of the nature of Abyssea, with a correct group <brds> and Stalwarts with the Atmas you should be using, You're nearly always capped on Attack/accuracy (bar a few certain mobs, Obviously))
I mean, TBH its not a hard Knife to come by once you get access to Shinryu fight, I'd pick it up if you had the chance, Cause It's useful for us non-mandau THFs, but to everyone else it is quite a fun toy, with the Activation rate being so darn high.
Also, Triplus Dagger comes from Igsebind, the Jormungand in Uleg. Range. I have a pop i plan on Blue'in low man soon where i will get my drop and post it on the Triplus Dagger page for hilarity, Since my comment on the page suggest Twilight > Triplus, and I'll have both, and those RAGERS will have neither.
lolololololol.
Edit: And i still think Triplus daggers usefulness will weigh very very heavily on its "Triple attack damage" boosts potency. For all we know it could very well be something like "Attack +5~10%" and it will be Completely unnoticable inside Abyssea with our capped or already close to capped Attack power (on <Most> things please mind you). In which case there would be no argument, Quad attack+3 > Triple Attack +3. They interact just fine, Triple Attack will proc the same rate with quad attack+3, Its Double attack you'd have to be worried about (Dbl procing over trpl,etc)
Edit2: Also, Atma of the Apocalypse is Boss. Triple attack:Superior. and i have it. and i use it. And i love it.