Obama Press Conference

I was actually joking. He took about as many vacations as any working American. The thing I DID NOT approve of was all of his wife's trips outside of the country that required security. She should have been staying within the united states and spending money here. I think Michelle Obama is a horrible first lady and an insult to that title. Hillary Clinton, Nancy Reagan, Barbara Bush, Laura Bush, they all had grace, elegance, and a natural respect. Michelle Obama gets off airforce one dressed like some video-hoe and lives like a fkin diva.

To be honest, this is perfect for the repubs to run against obama in 2012, If they had both senate and house, obama couldve ran on a "do nothing congress" but now that the House has... well the best hand and we all know House wins in majority of bets.. All the house can do is force obama to veto every idea/bill the new House throws his way. The fun is just getting started.

Boehner wanting to repeal obamacare ASAP

Banning Earmarks

Cantor's 22 Page plan to Change Congress


Oh yeah its getting good now.

I don't want to rain on anyone's parade but republicans need to slow down and take things into perspective. They control 1/6th of the federal government. They can't do very much.

you forgot that he doesn't have to veto or sign a bill, he can leave it sit. He can still, do nothing.

I'll even agree with you Excelior.

I'd rather they actually do something to help the country rather than childish back and forth play :/
it'd be like that regardless of whom was voted in...but it sets the stage for obama to actually have to try for some tough decisions...will either make or break his career in the future.

Also repealing "Obamacare" (which is mostly word for word republican ideas from their bill which opposed Hilarycare years ago, would be a bad move and against improving America.(if you don't believe it needs improvement you're sorely delusional and quite frankly need a reality check)

indeed.

Yall are looking at it as what gets done. It wont be an overnight thing. and 1/6th?

But anyways, i see it from perspective, i dont expect things to "get done" either, i just want to be certain we do in fact push ideas and amendments to the Senate floor and have debates. Thats after all what Obama wanted to see, new ideas.

So we agree that both parties should push ideas and amendments to the floor and have debates?
Or are they going to focus on the political aspect rather than work together?
because that's what should be happening and if it doesn't you should be able to lay blame on one person.
you should blame both of the democrats and republicans for mistakes of that nature.

Just being cautiously optimistic. :)

I just hope it doesn't end up being a two year hole :/
Regardless of what happens the republicans are going to blame obama or take credit(if things start to work) though.
Does that mean they should/shouldn't take credit?
I dunno.
I'm just sick of seeing everything as a "blame game", the government as a whole should take claim rather than diffuse it to party politics :/

But I guess it's a whole lot easier for the ones who'd rather not think about things to just blame one or two people.

Yeah, exactly how I feel. If he does under-the-table deals as well as Clinton did, he'll totally get reelected.

The entire business on how the Hill will handle earmarks is very interesting to me, considering how GOP is on this fiscal responsibility upswing but ask for money with the other side of their collective mouths (looking at you Rick Perry!)

Both sides could take credit lol! Obama could say "See i told you my stimulating package would work!"

But yeah the blame game sucks and it wont go away, sadly. those damn Libs! (lol i had to)

When it comes to that it becomes a fight between the loudest voices lol.
Bah that's my hatred of party politics coming out with that.

What was that pie chart that Jaerik posted in one of these threads? The one that showed the National Debt?

Anyone notice that the interest on the national debt is already over 9% of the national debt itself, and of course interest grows when not paid off.. Everyone is familiar with the way that the government "makes" money, right?

It may not be now, but the Federal Reserve is the biggest enemy of the future. This business would eventually own all of America. Honestly, it will come to either standing up and revolting against this business(essentially civil war by that time) or us being smart enough to stop it now(which likely won't happen).

Big bankers had been lining the pockets of politicians for years preceding the enactment of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. However, you still get the uncorruptable few that knew the consequences of such a system. So the bankers waited.. and on December 23 of 1913, they struck, knowing that some politicians would return home for the holidays. They corrupted the few who would be around to pass such a bill, and so it happened.

In today's time, we're faced with booms and busts, both caused by the Federal Reserve being willing to print more money or unwilling to do so. The Fed as a business can accumulate money during booms, cause the busts to occur, then accumulate assets for a fraction of their costs. Rinse and repeat.


"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."
- Thomas Jefferson


TL/DR: Central banking is the biggest threat to the future of America.

JEWS did WTC too right?
Being paranoid is easy you know :D

The House most certainly does not win in the majority of bets. Dunno who said that. Pelosi's House passed dozens if not hundreds of bills that promptly went over to the Senate and died. The Senate is pretty much all that matters due to the abuse of the filibuster.

Due to the fact that the parties hate each other so much, every bill is automatically filibustered (you don't even need to actually stand there and talk anymore, it's just automatically flagged), so you can't even vote on any legislation without 60 votes. The Reps now don't even have 50 votes so similarly, nothing will even get voted on for two years.

The House can legislate until they're blue in the face. Reid can just refuse to vote on any of it, which I fully expect him to do.

Of course they didn't.

But I think it's easy for you to say that. It's easy to lump "UFOs!!!!" with "Federal Reserve is evil!".

The government has control of the laws, yes, but the Fed has control over the money. The money influences the laws, so essentially the Fed(a business, not a part of the government at all) has control over everything.

They are all conspiring to get all our money aren't they!
It's easy to identify an organization as evil.

My point is that neither the Republicans or the Democrats will take any step at improving the national debt in any way, shape, or form. So I'm glad that they have come to a standstill, at least until we get another party into the mix or until people actually DO something about the biggest problems.

What party?
I'm just kinda nitpicking :P
I do agree with the latter part...but a party might not be the answer.
especially if they happen to follow suit with the tea party :/
but hell who knows...happened years ago with the progressive movement so anything can happen nowadays.

A business's job is to make money, correct? What other reason would a business exist? Well, the Federal Reserve would be no different. But it's the fact that they have so much monetary control over the country that leads to the problem. They're making money off of us. We're currently indebted to this business. When they come out and say: "Pay up." No one will have the money to.

Hypotheticals are great aren't they :D

good and evil do not exist.
what do you get from thinking that 9-11 was an inside job?
does it really do much of anything past bolstering your paranoia?

Here's the pie chart you guys are thinking of. This isn't the "national debt" but rather the federal budget. I.e. what the government's money is spent on every year.

Keep in mind that until a few weeks ago, over $100B in additional military and intelligence spending was not published with the federal budget. They had a blank check and not even Congress knew how much they spent. Obama finally published the number for the first time in history a few weeks ago, but it's not included on the chart.



The point to take away from this chart is thus: not even the Republicans and Tea Party are arguing we should cut Social Security, defense spending, war on terror spending, intelligence spending, or Medicare/Medicaid. It's not even in their platform, and we can't not pay debt interest. Together those things make up almost all of the federal budget.

There just aren't any easy areas to cut. People say "cut foreign aid!" but the amount we contribute is so microscopic it doesn't even make it onto the graph. We have to cut waste and spending from every area, but no one has any ideas how to do so, because there are too many interested parties.

global war on terror sounds like a pretty awesome place to start

Example:
You have a Discover Card. You were an idiot and decided to buy a 72" TV even though you only have a budget for a 15" TV. By the next month, you can only pay a portion of the money that you borrowed from the creditors, so you now begin accumulating interest. You're an idiot so you keep buying ***that you can't afford, while never paying off the bill... eventually you can only afford the minimum payments which just so happens to be the interest on the amount you owe. You're now stuck. You can never pay off your bill, but you keep borrowing anyway until your interest per month is more than you can make per month.

Now, replace the word "Creditors" with Federal Reserve and "You" with American taxpayers/government.

I want to know what these "other international programs" are lol