Open Carry Of Firearms: Yea Or Nay?

WTF kind of suped up sports car hybrid you driving thats 8' wide but weighs only 2000lbs? The average family sedan is between 3600-4200lbs empty.


no, no. I covered that a few pages back and Jet disagreed. No one else chimed in. Forgot Quail/Dove

It's imaginary, I honestly have no idea... wait... 70 inches wide and 2900lbs. :P Also didn't mean to sound all white knightey for you...

I'm just picking at you, but you were actually under exaggerating the true kinetic force behind a moving vehicle. Bulls weigh (on avg.) between 1800-2200lbs and often times they can kill a person in a collision. How much more so, does something weighing 2x as much, made of metal and moving at exponentially more dangerous speeds?

Oh! I forgot about quail! I'm making myself hungry now.

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Clara Harris sends her reguards.

you're half right. i don't want to pick on people, no matter what their size, unless they're bullies. but i have an innate ability to attract tough guys. my only guess is because i'm big and people have always told me i look intimidating.

of course not many of these guys end up fighting me, but that doesn't stop them from trying to provoke an altercation. i just think, if it was so free to have guns these tough guys would be much more bold in their attempts and maybe i wouldn't be alive today.

i've already been stabbed, beaten with various heavy objects, and hit by a car. the only thing i haven't been is shot and/or blown up by an explosive lol.

2 things that have a high risk of mortality. not to mention, i've gotta be running low on luck by now :/

of course, you can say i could carry a gun but that still doesn't insure my safety because he could shoot me first being an *** that he is. or i could miss and kill someone else. of course laws banning them wouldn't insure my safety either, but it would be harder to get for some average person.

i think it would be like the wild wild west, where instead of fights being solved with fighting, it will be solved with bullets.

like Craig's dad said in Friday, "but you live son! you live! to fight another day!"

You have a point, but I'm still for open carry of guns. I really don't think it'd do as much harm as it would good. There are bound to be the idiots out there that do stupid ***, but that can be said for anything, unfortunately, we've gotten very good at preventing stupid from hurting their selves or when they inevitably do by doing dumb *** ***, we've gotten very good at saving their lives.

We've effectively removed all but the most extreme cases of natural selection, which is good for a species as a whole, instead of worrying about being extinct we have to worry about over population, society as we know it now may crumble from the sheer weight, but we're still guaranteed to continue living after it does from sheer number. But it also has it's negative sides.. Such as idiots who make stupid choices (like when they have a simple altercation with someone thinking pulling a gun is going to lead to anything good).

More or less I'm for them simply because I don't see "stupid people" as a viable excuse to restrict anything. People will be idiots regardless, the stupid people that you fear will pull a gun, are also probably out there driving drunk/intoxicated right now on at least a weekly basis.

i've never really looked into this stuff but is it legal for an average citizen to have a bullet proof vest?

because i'd feel much better about people carrying guns around if i had some sort of protection.

yeah, you're right about that. i just keep thinking to myself that maybe people will get too paranoid from the ease that it would be to kill someone. like what if someone nabs a ladies purse and she pulls her gun or something and shoots someone that was just minding their business.

if they allow guns to be carried by average citizens, then they should be a mandatory gun training and high stress situation training or something. i say that, because i think that's the only real time i'd ever try to pull my gun is if someone is trying to kill me or someone else.

people would have to take the same training as cops.

Probably depends on the state, but yeah they're legal mostly..

I also agree that training should be mandatory.. Shouldn't really be a whole lot different than getting your driver's license, except maybe a bit more stringent.

well we don't really have to worry about it here as long as the gun is legal it's legal to carry openly in public.

Concealed w/ permit.

edit: and yes Kevlar is legal to own, at least generally.

Killing someone isn't hard even without a firearm when intent is involved. Now with one, it is easier to do it accidentally which is why training as well as a healthy respect for weapons should be instilled in all people. If you carry, you should be worried about how easy it is to kill. You should be aware of how your actions can result in death, be it you or others, or life in prison. It's what keeps us from doing stupid ***.

Completely legal to have self protection gear. Providing you acquire it by legal means (ie. purchase not steal ; ) )

unfortunately it won't stop large slugs. But I've been thinking about getting a vest too, then again I am looking to get strapped, but my funds currently don't allow it.

Really wanting to get into some CZ USA arms, but same issue with funds.

Vest should stop handgun calibre shells, the problem comes with PPE/FMJ and Copper/Aluinum dipped lead.

Rights in the US don't work that way. You don't "earn" a right. If you have to earn something it isn't a right, it's a privilege. Rights are granted by "The Creator," whatever you consider that to be. Not by the Constitution/Bill of Rights, or any branch of government. That's how it's supposed to be, although over the years people seem to have lost sight of this fact.

Even if you did have to earn it, that's a stupid way to earn it. Not everyone agrees with military, or is physically fit enough for that or law enforcement. Some people just plain scare easily. There's a sleugh of reasons why a violence based career isn't right for many people. People should live their lives the way they feel right within the boundaries of the law, and as long as they aren't a criminal there's no reason not to grant everyone 100% identical rights. Constitutionally, American's imho should be able to carry guns. There's really not more to it, if they don't want American's to carry guns, then they can ammend the constitution.

Guns stolen from a gun shop

Obviously you've never seen US Sherrif's Dept. Officers. 350lbs+ is considered in shape...

All the more reason for you to go out and get a conceal and carry permit.

Can't where I live. Illegal to own a firearm.

Edit: I don't really hear of any stories where they actually prosecute people for owning them though (law abiding citizens at least). We've even had cases where homeowners have shot and killed assailants breaking into their homes and they were not prosecuted but if I recall correctly they do confiscate the weapon.

I'd rather have my weapon confiscated than end up on the news in a body bag.

Many people agree with you and as I have said before I support gun ownership, well responsible gun ownership.

Just stating in general, not necessarily pointed at you.

Oh! I forgot about Clara Harris. It's she the one who ran over her husband multiple times outside of a Houston hotel?

/cringe

Both. There is no clear-cut answer to this debate.
Unlikely, but it's possible.
Again, unlikely, but possible.
Probably not. Although it may have limited the casualties.
Yes.
Yes.
Definitely.
Almost certainly.
Probably yes.

More people with guns = more chance that one of them will use it

do you have anything to back up this statement?

nowhere in the US is it illegal to own a firearm, unless your flag is wrong.

I'm pretty sure that if there was such a law, be it local or state, then it'd get overturned on the basis that it is unconstitutional.

If somehow this is true... I'd like to see where it is and the actual laws.