Do I Need A Raja's Ring?

LOL!!

Its always blunt time here in US and A

Vat? I need it 85 to understand basic mechanics that still apply to my RDM? Any kind of DD tank can keep their VE higher than a mage will, if they're seriously getting pounded and you're pulling hate then they probably don't have PDT/MDT sets. That makes them bad. (Remember, you're arguing the difference of -3enmity, there's clearly something wrong if that is at all important.)

I doubt that he would be familiar with VE and how enmity actually works in this game.

But yeah, apparently we need to have a certain job higher than 75... in order to be able to know how to play it and give advice on it. Flawless logic.

This statement is HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE, and you should feel HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE for even considering stating it.

Well Abyssea is too hardcore bro.

Tamas ring is ***, why are you arguing with him? He's clearly HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE and grasping at straws and ignoring reality.

WHM is hard in abyssea? What is this..........?

Seriously if you think WHM is a hard job to play in Abyssea your an idiot lol

Sit there keep haste Cycle up on your Tanks and spam the hell out of Cure V, thats about all WHM does, you dont run out of MP, you never have to rest. WHM takes MUCH more skill outside of abyssea than it does inside.

But then again there are so many bad WHM out there it drives me insane, the jobs just so simple...........

bifrost ring > Vivian ring > Serket ring > tamas ring for Max MP

metanoia ring > trooper's ring > tamas ring for -Enmity

karka ring > Neptune's ring > tamas ring for MND boosts on Cure V and VI

*Edit* As you can see, there are 2 or more options that are better than Tamas ring *Edit*

Tamas ring was at its best at 75 because it was a good compromise between Max MP, MND and -Enmity. Being a WHM does not mean you get to be lazy and have no gear swap macros.

As for Rajas being that good to have, yes, it's still great to have especially (but not uniquely) for 2 handers such as DRK.
Its biggest advantage over any other ring is the Stp, which is the highest you can get on a ring slot and greatly asists you in making X-Hit builds.
Secondly to the Stp, you get the highest STR - DEX (unless you get unbeleavably lucky with a FoV Flame or Thunder ring?) combo out there which most, if not all, WS in game can benefit from.

If SE ever adds higher Stp rings we may see some big changes. I'd rather see Rajas get an adjustment to get +6 Stats past 75 though.

If you think that's all you need to pay attention to as a WHM then you yourself are one of those god awful WHMs you speak of, sir.

Well, not like anybody actually stated that WHM is hard to begin with. You might want to get off your high horse and learn to distinguish between what somebody actually says and what your preconceived notions are about a person who disagrees with you just because you can't accept that somebody else might have a good point.

The only thing I came here to say is that while there maybe better choices if you are ONLY concerned about one of MND, enmity or MP, that doesn't mean that stacking any one of them while neglecting the others entirely is always necessarily the best choice. Tamas Ring provides very substantial increases to all of the above and is therefore quite useful for any situation in which a combination of any two or more of these three stats is relevant. It does not make you lazy to compromise a negligible amount of one stat in favor of a large increase in another whenever both stats are important in your current situation.

ftfy.
Atm it's:
Blitz ring jobs
rajas ring + blitz ring
inb4 someone says Toreador's. Except WAR, where Blitz can be replaced to an attack, STR, or Hoard ring due to all that haste.

Non-blitz jobs
rajas ring + hoard ring

Hoard ring only if it's a neccessity to remove a hit off your build, otherwise gtfo.

Implying that you need to be 85 to understand how to play WHM indicates that you think its a hard complex job that you MUST have leveled to understand how to play. 75-85 is such a huge gap! OMG theres no possible way somebody could understand the 10 level difference of WHM its not even possible!

Also implying that WHM in abyssea is completley different than outside abyssea, which it is! You have infinite MP making it 10x easier making your point even more invalid.

The NMs are completely different, and therefore healing in Abyssea is a completely different experience than outside of it. If you mean to tell me that you heal exactly the same way for every single NM you ever encounter then that in itself tells me how bad of a WHM you are.

Also, speaking "like an authority" (i.e. from experience) is quite different from speaking with a general understanding. What does this even have to do with CoP rings again?

Especially now that hitting Haste cap is much simpler to reach, Blitz ring can be left out for better stats, and if you look at the various AF3 sets it's even simpler for non Blitz ring jobs to reach haste cap.

*Edit*
Unless Hoard ring manages to get you to a lower X-Hit build when combined with Rajas, it's pointless to use it.

What I meant with my original statement was that since Stp is Rajas's top stat, if SE ever releases a ring with over 5 Stp, then it will be likely to replace Rajas in a Stp + Acc Atk STR ring combo or turn Hoard ring useless.

RDM and WHM are completely different in healing scenarios obviously.

The "You have to have it to know it" card is getting old. REALLY old.

You'd need a pretty pimped out set to be able to replace a blitz ring.

You should shutup now.

Not necessarily.

It all comes up to the level of dedication you decide to give to a specific job though.
We've gotten so many unbeleavably good JSE now it would be hard to explain why you're not working on them.

6% Haste headpieces, 2% Haste bodies, 4% Haste hands, 6-7% Haste belts, 7% Haste legs, 5% Haste feet, heck, DRG even gets a 1% Haste backpiece.

It's all out there.

AW YEAH.

because this: is considered obtainable with dedication. but how much dedication is required?

^ And that's still not even 26% haste

fixed?

STP+11 Sumeru
26% Haste
5-Hit
~460 Acc!

cool beans, now relate it to drk

Well.. 25 + 1 = 26


True. Although, I thought we were talking about DRK, seeing as this is a DRK thread.

It all comes down to how much you want to prove you're not just another Perle Armor DD to the rest of the players and yourself, to how much you enjoy a certain job and feel it deserves being geared well, and to how well your group of friends or Ls is good at doing Abyssea which, imho, is not a hard event.

I'd also like to point out the fact I stated